Big Slick/Commitee Official Statement Ref - Clonmel Event

BIG-SLICK-POKER

Big Slick Official Statement

I would like to reply to the recent anonymous allegations made on boards.ie.
Blazing Aces committee came to us about a complaint made to them about irregularities at the B.S.P./Celtic poker coursing festival day 2.

We have investigated the allegations thoroughly and these are our findings.
There was a discrepancy in the advertised chip counts on this day due to incorrect information given to the tournament director.

The discrepancy resulted because the monies for highest hand, highest finishing lady and league was taken from the prize pool which amounted to a total of 800euro.

We at B.S.P. in hindsight realise that this should have been announced and going forward procedures have already been put in place so full accountability is available to all players for future tournaments.

Furthermore no monies were taken out of the prize fund for the benefit of either operator as all funds were paid to players.

We apologise for the inconvenience caused and will Endeavour to maintain our integrity and good reputation in the future. We hope this brings closure to this matter and we look forward to seeing you at future events.

Finally the players committee of Blazin Aces have addressed this complaint and there independent findings and response is listed below.

Neill Kelly ( Operations Director Big Slick Events)
Dermot Jacob ( Managing director big slick events)

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Players Committee Statement


As representatives of blazing aces committee.

We would like to bring to your attention a complaint made by a club member.
The complaint in question was regarding chip counts on the final table in the bsp/Celtic poker coursing festival day 2.

We as a committee felt it was our duty to bring this to the attention of the organisers they responded with a promise to investigate the findings.

Our findings were as follows.

1. Chip counts were incorrect.
2. Rebuy amounts were incorrect.
3. Prize fund was incorrect.

The reasons stated for this were that monies were taken from the pool to compensate for highest hand, highest finishing lady, League, and trophy.

B.S.P have admitted that although no obvious attempt to deceive the players was attempted this was a serious lack of competence on their part and not satisfactory. B.S.P. have assured us that they will put procedures in place so that mistakes made at this event will not happen again and complete transparency and chip counts will be available at any time during a tournament.

The player in question has been offered compensation and blazing aces have offered to make a donation to the club members which will be discussed by the committee at a later date.

As a committee we like to remind all members of blazing aces that we represent their views and if any players have any complaints or suggestions to improve our club please inform the committee

Best regards blazing aces committee

Brian “Fox” O Keefe
Dave McCarthy
Alex Collyer
Billy Fitzpatrick
Owen Revile (slaps)
Padraig McDonough

Finally Brian O keefe (fox) is no longer a committee member and we would like to wish him all the best with his future endeavours

connie147

I wasn't in Clonmel so was slow to make any comment in the other thread. Hopefully this sorry saga is now over with and ye can now get back to playing and organising as ye should be.

Connie

Lplate

Well done to all concerned in resolving the issue.

big_iain

Difficult times, glad to hear it's sorted any chance you could post the full results now.

NUL150

im not buying this , ye must think peole are so stupid , i shall never attend another tournement big slick have anything to do with

protective

BIG-SLICK-POKER wrote: »

B.S.P have admitted that although no obvious attempt to deceive the players was attempted

and the rebuys were shown incorrectly why???????????????????????????????

BIG-SLICK-POKER

protective wrote: »

and the rebuys were shown incorrectly why???????????????????????????????

Unfortunately i as Tournament Director was Given the Total Prizepool excluding the deductions and this Information was put on the Board.This amount totalled to €16,500 when the Total should have been €17,300. I put rebuys in to total the €16,500 where in fact should have been €17,300

This in Turn allowed a chip discrepency of over 250,000 chips at the final table where as if i had just announced the deductions at the event we would not have had the problem that arose .The Total rebuys on the Board were 78 when in fact should have been 96 .

Neill Kelly
Tournament Director

NUL150

Your statement is littered with ambiguity and implication that you knew nothing of the monies taken from the tournament, Your trying to say that your partners did it and you ( bigslick) had nothing to do with it, which is total spin. People are not stupid and no amount of spin will convince me you didn't know exactly what went on and I think what your admitting to is just a small fraction of what went on.

Sirtoyou

These prizes are laughable and the fact that there deducted from the prizepool even more so.
Highest Hand is a joke and often takes from a pub game not to mind a serious event.
Best finishing lady is sexist ****e that even the lady is often unhappy with winning.
There should be no league deductions at a unique event like the coursing.

LOL at the trophy deduction.

I personally wasn't in Clonmel but that was only due to weather conditions.I followed the other thead with interest as even though there was a lot of anonymous drivel there was also the recognisable traits of your bedfellow.I hope it doesn't cost your reputation.

tarquin

maybe i've missed something here?? but why would it take 2 weeks to issue a statement if you knew that all these prizes were given out? it surely couldn't take that long to figure out if what your saying is really the case,also were these prizes advertised before the tournament?? and were they given out on each night or just the monday nights tournament?? also would it be possible to post up the results for each night with a list of people who won the "lady last longest" etc..thank you

newbie2

no more wrote: »

just a few questions. .......[a satalite night with rebyes].......extra 20 rebyes appeared on screen.......evidance

sp * rebuys
sp * evidence

no more wrote: »

I do have more questions

Do you have a dictionary? If you're going to get on your high-horse, then at least word your post and spell things correctly mate.

GL

PapaSmurph

Sad to see this turning into a witch Hunt against big slick they seem to have answered the questions here and by the player in who aked and it just looks like people are making new accounts here to bring them down . I have to say well done for the replys from both the commitee and big slick .

spoofingjam

The reasons stated for this were that monies were taken from the pool to compensate for highest hand, highest finishing lady, League, and trophy.

i wasn't in clonmel but this sounds laughable. I'd expect more from B.S.P. they used to run the best tourny's in the country. It seems they've gone down hill since there new managing director (as u call him) came on board

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newbie2 wrote: »

sp * rebuys
sp * evidence


Do you have a dictionary? If you're going to get on your high-horse, then at least word your post and spell things correctly mate.

GL

sy..no high horse ..these are questions that need to be answered

KevIRL

Okay

Time for some mod input here. Big Slick have abided by the charter and and made a statement regarding concerns raised on the other thread. They did request some time to investigate what happened before posting a reply, which we allowed.

Now I understand that some posters may still not be happy with the statement, however it is within the rules of boards.

Nul150 - I've removed some of your posts, as it just appears you have some agenda against the OP. You have expressed your opinion on what happened and that is fine. Continual harrasement on the thread is not

no more - post also deleted. Big Slick have complied with the rules of the forum. I dont know where you are going with the "belive me its against the law to lie under oath" statement, but it sounds like a thinly veiled legal threat. Be careful

As for the thread going forward. There will not be a witch hunt on here. Mistakes have been made and admitted to. Either accept that, or as a customer you have the right to vote with your feet in the future. Boards-wise however the statement is satisfactory with regards to the rules and charter

NUL150

an agenda against them u say .... i have played every decent event they have ever had i played the 3 nights in clonmel so u work out why i have the agenda with them

BIG-SLICK-POKER

tarquin wrote: »

maybe i've missed something here?? but why would it take 2 weeks to issue a statement if you knew that all these prizes were given out? it surely couldn't take that long to figure out if what your saying is really the case,also were these prizes advertised before the tournament?? and were they given out on each night or just the monday nights tournament?? also would it be possible to post up the results for each night with a list of people who won the "lady last longest" etc..thank you

Hi Darren,


It took 2 weeks to issue the statment due to us respecting the wishes of the player commitee whom asked us to hold off until they and the player in question were fully happy with the outcome.

I will post a full list of results this week and high hands etc of all the events. Winner of the last lady on that night in question was our own Maggie Cooke who made the Final Table.


Neill

nicnicnic

KevIRL wrote: »

Okay


Nul150 - I've removed some of your posts, as it just appears you have some agenda against the OP. You have expressed your opinion on what happened and that is fine. Continual harrasement

In fairness to Nul150 he played the three days in Clonmel (and is a well known and respected player in the area) and some of the points he made in his comments were probably the most clear and insiteful posted in this thread including the OP.

The OPs mitigation is to blame there partners in the running of the event without stating this directly, Nul1150 pointed this out and deleting it is plain wrong Kev

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PapaSmurph wrote: »

Sad to see this turning into a witch Hunt against big slick they seem to have answered the questions here and by the player in who aked and it just looks like people are making new accounts here to bring them down . I have to say well done for the replys from both the commitee and big slick .

this is no witchhunt.... big slick answered questions asked by their commitee..so now we as players want to ask questions..i as well as a lot of players played with bigslick from day one and followed them around to all their tournments....i am not trying to get them a bad name but as a player in which i am not a pro , but love the game as the majority of poker players do ,this is our hard earned money that we are using to play in these games and god knows its hard to get a few euro out of it with out the organisors swindling the players and i will use the word swindle until i am proved other wise.as a local player in aces we were never consulted about any meetings,big slick had already given 2 excuses in which the commitee refused to achknowledge so now we have this statement so there are still some outstanding questions to be answered not just to me but to the poker community as a whole because as i said this is the money we work our balls for thats being taken and on a whole maybe this epsoide will make other tournment organizers [ not all but some ]realise that poker players are sick of being taken for granted

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KevIRL wrote: »

Okay

Time for some mod input here. Big Slick have abided by the charter and and made a statement regarding concerns raised on the other thread. They did request some time to investigate what happened before posting a reply, which we allowed.

Now I understand that some posters may still not be happy with the statement, however it is within the rules of boards.

Nul150 - I've removed some of your posts, as it just appears you have some agenda against the OP. You have expressed your opinion on what happened and that is fine. Continual harrasement on the thread is not

no more - post also deleted. Big Slick have complied with the rules of the forum. I dont know where you are going with the "belive me its against the law to lie under oath" statement, but it sounds like a thinly veiled legal threat. Be careful

As for the thread going forward. There will not be a witch hunt on here. Mistakes have been made and admitted to. Either accept that, or as a customer you have the right to vote with your feet in the future. Boards-wise however the statement is satisfactory with regards to the rules and charter

are u saying we the players who played in clonmel cannot ask questions

KevIRL

NUL150 wrote: »

an agenda against them u say .... i have played every decent event they have ever had i played the 3 nights in clonmel so u work out why i have the agenda with them

I was merely going by your posts in this thread. You outlined your position in your first post and thats to be respected. However coming back on with 3 more replys very quickly seems a bit much

nicnicnic wrote: »

In fairness to Nul150 he played the three days in Clonmel (and is a well known and respected player in the area) and some of the points he made in his comments were probably the most clear and insiteful posted in this thread including the OP.

The OPs mitigation is to blame there partners in the running of the event without stating this directly, Nul1150 pointed this out and deleting it is plain wrong Kev

The concerns raised were answered as per the charter Nicky, if people dont accept the answers then that is their right obviously. They dont have to play in future tournaments. But dragging up something which is alleged to have happened at an event a number of years ago for example doesnt exactly help.

I have reviewed the posts and restored one, I'm also gonna refer this thread to the other mods, if they feel my line is wrong, I'll hold my hands up and admit a mistake is made

no more wrote: »

are u saying we the players who played in clonmel cannot ask questions

Not at all. But dragging up rumours of something that may or may not have happened at an event some time ago is not on. Either are some sort implied legal thread

Also as I've said above, I'll refer the threads to the other mods, if they think anything I've said/done was wrong then I'll change it.

kakak1

I've been away for the past week so haven't being as involved as I might have been but I was around for the start of this episode.

I am amazed that any player who was unhappy with the way the event was run would play in all 3 events or was it that the rumours got out & he now believes a scam took place.

Maybe the following will help :-


This IMO all started with one of our players (from Blazin Aces) reporting to the committee that there was about 1.3m more chips in play than was reflected by the prizefund.

We therefore approached Big Slick, discussed the matter at a meeting, raised our points as they did theirs & they went away to investigate the matter.

When they responded to the committee, in less than 1 week, they were able to state that the prizefund was out by €800 but not by 1.3m chips & this was also verified by another final table player not associated with Blazin Aces. The Aces player who originally reported the matter is also happy that his count, aided by a rough count from a dealer (who since says he didn't do a proper count) may have been incorrect & is happy with the findings of Big Slick & the committee from Aces.

I can understand that players are none too happy that prizes for 1st lady, etc. were deducted from the prize pool as were our committee & the players should have been notified in advance & we have informed Big Slick of this as well.

But in the overall picture our fears have now been put to rest of a "major scam" as we are sure that this was not the case.

All tournament orgainisers run into problems at events (look at the recent IPC) but hopefully lessons will be learned for the future & chips counts will be done on a more regular basis.

My name is at the end of the statemant from the Blazin Aces committee & for anyone who knows me they will know I will not sign anything I do not agree with so I am happy that no major scam was involved.

David McCarthy

NUL150

i have nothing else to say anyway as far as im concerned b.s.p have bein exposed for what they are and they always seem to have the same people defending them u keep on defending them dave im sure u will convince urself anyway

OutOfPosition

NUL150 wrote: »

im not buying this , ye must think peole are so stupid , i shall never attend another tournement big slick have anything to do with

NUL150 wrote: »

Your statement is littered with ambiguity and implication that you knew nothing of the monies taken from the tournament, Your trying to say that your partners did it and you ( bigslick) had nothing to do with it, which is total spin. People are not stupid and no amount of spin will convince me you didn't know exactly what went on and I think what your admitting to is just a small fraction of what went on.

NUL150 wrote: »

i have nothing else to say anyway as far as im concerned b.s.p have bein exposed for what they are and they always seem to have the same people defending them u keep on defending them dave im sure u will convince urself anyway

There is no way these 3 statements were written by the same person imo, 1+3 maybe but 2, pmsl

Goodluck2me

kakak1 wrote: »

All tournament orgainisers run into problems at events (look at the recent IPC) but hopefully lessons will be learned for the future & chips counts will be done on a more regular basis.

Im far from a pokerevents fan, but this is incomarable and completely brought on my themselves, not from outside influences.
I agree with Spoofingjam too, taking 800 EURO for that its just ridiculous, how much was taken for the league?
Its effectively a tax on players who don;t play every week, and really shouldn't be taken, especially to that extent in what is a one off tournament.

this isn't a go at you Dave, just some observations.
I also think that it all sounds a bit ridiculous, and they've let themselves open to a lot of abuse, and should be careful not to alienate themselves from their supporters, and try to rectify it.

Kev, I also think you've acted pretty reasonably in this.

PapaSmurph

NUL150 wrote: »

i have nothing else to say anyway as far as im concerned b.s.p have bein exposed for what they are and they always seem to have the same people defending them u keep on defending them dave im sure u will convince urself anyway

I think thats a disgraceful comment and considering u are saying u played all 3 events and u did not see anything wrong at any of the events i have to ask the question do u have other interests at heart .

I see Kakak has said the player in question is happy with the outcome but you yourself played the 3 events did not see anything wromg and then decide yourself there is something wrong after the event which came from a player. The posts that u have made do not match as 1 post is perfect and the other is not.

I for one would be one person who would knock if i could see anything wromg and this just seems like there is a hidden agenda in posts to knock big slick and blazin aces and i for one would make a stance to be in there corner on this they have been questioned then come on and made a statement and have made a mistake but nothing in the fashion of what is happening here on this thread

As the Scousers say

Calm Down Calm Down

kakak1

NUL150 wrote: »

i have nothing else to say anyway as far as im concerned b.s.p have bein exposed for what they are and they always seem to have the same people defending them u keep on defending them dave im sure u will convince urself anyway

By calling me "Dave" you obviously know me well & not just because I had the balls to sign my post. Unfortunately I don't know who you are.

However you don't know me well enough if you make a statement like the above.

I will never try to defend anyone I feel is in the wrong.

If you would like to discuss this matter please feel welcome to pm me with your name/number as I am more than willing to discuss, in private, but not on a public forum

Lafortezza

Nonsense posts deleted, keep the petty bickering off the forums. Bans from here on in.

5starpool

This is an awkward one where we have to balance the right of the punter to complain with the right of the organiser not to be badmouthed once they fully comply with the charter here.

I was not follownig this drama closely I must admit, but from what I have read, and from previous dealings on here with BSP, I would be inclined to accept a genuine error in this case from their POV. I agree with Kev that 2 years ago rich to be dragging events up from and if no more recent examples exist then it leans me more towards accepting the explanation given.

However, when complaints/comments are made in a reasonable fashion I think they should be answered. We are not a service for organisers to promote with no consequences, nor are we a forum for every new poster to complain on and a balance has to be struck.

Theresalwaysone

nicnicnic wrote: »

stay out of it

You are probably right, but from what Ive read and especially this guys recent posts, I dont think anything more needs to be said, he has shown himself to have a different agenda to othe people asking questions of BigSlick.

edit: didnt see the ban thing before I posted this. Edit at will mods.

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[quote=Kev



Not at all. But dragging up rumours of something that may or may not have happened at an event some time ago is not on. Either are some sort implied legal thread

Also as I've said above, I'll refer the threads to the other mods, if they think anything I've said/done was wrong then I'll change it.[/quote]
sy should nt have mentioned that

OutOfPosition

lafortezza wrote: »

Nonsense posts deleted, keep the petty bickering off the forums. Bans from here on in.

Can i ask why you deleted my post that basically confirmed NUL150 was more than one person, im fairly sure its relevant to this as hes the one spearheading the witch hunt.

NUL150

im sick of this now , anyone who doesnt know me my name is brian nolan , if u do know me ul know i have played alot of b.s.p events so i have no witch hunt against them or anyone last time i checked everyone was entitled to an opinion i have made mine clear

Lafortezza

OutOfPosition wrote: »

Can i ask why you deleted my post that basically confirmed NUL150 was more than one person, im fairly sure its relevant to this as hes the one spearheading the witch hunt.

It didn't confirm anything at all. This thread is about BSP's statement and for people who still have questions about the Clonmel tournaments etc. Nothing else.

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kakak1 wrote: »

I've been away for the past week so haven't being as involved as I might have been but I was around for the start of this episode.

I am amazed that any player who was unhappy with the way the event was run would play in all 3 events or was it that the rumours got out & he now believes a scam took place.

Maybe the following will help :-


This IMO all started with one of our players (from Blazin Aces) reporting to the committee that there was about 1.0m more chips in play than was reflected by the prizefund.

We therefore approached Big Slick, discussed the matter at a meeting, raised our points as they did theirs & they went away to investigate the matter.

When they responded to the committee, in less than 1 week, they were able to state that the prizefund was out by €800 but not by 1.3m chips & this was also verified by another final table player not associated with Blazin Aces. The Aces player who originally reported the matter is also happy that his count, aided by a rough count from a dealer (who since says he didn't do a proper count) may have been incorrect & is happy with the findings of Big Slick & the committee from Aces.

I can understand that players are none too happy that prizes for 1st lady, etc. were deducted from the prize pool as were our committee & the players should have been notified in advance & we have informed Big Slick of this as well.

But in the overall picture our fears have now been put to rest of a "major scam" as we are sure that this was not the case.

All tournament orgainisers run into problems at events (look at the recent IPC) but hopefully lessons will be learned for the future & chips counts will be done on a more regular basis.

My name is at the end of the statemant from the Blazin Aces committee & for anyone who knows me they will know I will not sign anything I do not agree with so I am happy that no major scam was involved.

David McCarthy

why then dave was the winner compensated and not the other players who made the money........... what is the involvement of cpt in all this as this was a joint venture......what about the other two days [why no deductions......is it ture that the committee refused their first statement

OutOfPosition

NUL150 wrote: »

Your statement is littered with ambiguity and implication that you knew nothing of the monies taken from the tournament, Your trying to say that your partners did it and you ( bigslick) had nothing to do with it, which is total spin. People are not stupid and no amount of spin will convince me you didn't know exactly what went on and I think what your admitting to is just a small fraction of what went on.

NUL150 wrote: »

im sick of this now , anyone who doesnt know me my name is brian nolan , if u do know me ul know i have played alot of b.s.p events so i have no witch hunt against them or anyone last time i checked everyone was entitled to an opinion i have made mine clear

So who composed the above post Brian, i have a gut feeling who it was, as im sure most of the regulars do aswell

nicnicnic

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

You are probably right, but from what Ive read and especially this guys recent posts, I dont think anything more needs to be said, he has shown himself to have a different agenda to othe people asking questions of BigSlick.

edit: didnt see the ban thing before I posted this. Edit at will mods.

Well in fairness to him he was second in one of the tournaments in Clonmel so probably feels stronger then most about the situation. The statement states that a player who won one of the events is happy about being compensated for the shortfalls; I'm not sure how true this is but its quiet reasonable for other players involved in the games to feel wronged. I really didn't want to post in here but I'm not going to stand by while people are attacking a very good friend of mine who as he said has supported bigslick since they started as a deflection of the real issue.

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lafortezza wrote: »

It didn't confirm anything at all. This thread is about BSP's statement and for people who still have questions about the Clonmel tournaments etc. Nothing else.

ture..lets be adult about this and have a proper discussion and let the players get their questions answered.....slanging about posters will get us no where...as said before this is not a witch hunt

Theresalwaysone

nicnicnic wrote: »

Well in fairness to him he was second in one of the tournaments in Clonmel so probably feels stronger then most about the situation. The statement states that a player who won one of the events is happy about being compensated for the shortfalls; I'm not sure how true this is but its quiet reasonable for other players involved in the games to feel wronged. I really didn't want to post in here but I'm not going to stand by while people are attacking a very good friend of mine who as he said has supported bigslick since they started as a deflection of the real issue.

Ok, my mistake. I still think his posts could be composed a bit better, he isnt exactly coming across as any bit reasonable with his aggressive posting style. Other people can ask the same questions and not come across this way, it definitely doesnt help his case.

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OutOfPosition wrote: »

So who composed the above post Brian, i have a gut feeling who it was, as im sure most of the regulars do aswell

lol..anyone who knows brian knows that he dont need anyone talking for him

batlas

NUL150 wrote: »

im sick of this now , anyone who doesnt know me my name is brian nolan , if u do know me ul know i have played alot of b.s.p events so i have no witch hunt against them or anyone last time i checked everyone was entitled to an opinion i have made mine clear

i know brian myself, and have played with him in a lot of tourneys,and is one of the sound blokes on the waterford scene. he knows whats going on at the moment in waterford.... so i respect his views.

PapaSmurph

NUL150 wrote: »

im sick of this now , anyone who doesnt know me my name is brian nolan , if u do know me ul know i have played alot of b.s.p events so i have no witch hunt against them or anyone last time i checked everyone was entitled to an opinion i have made mine clear

Jesus didnt think that was u Brian .... Sorry i take back what i said i actually now have to respect your views as you are a quiet guy i actually watched your table for a little while near two tables but had to go off .

But can i ask u the question did u see anything wrong yourself in the events that you played?

I mean you are commenting on something that has been proven different and all parties were happy with the outcome including the player in question from the way i read this.

spoofingjam

I just got a call from niall clearing the missing 800 euro and im happy with the explanation.I know he doesn't want to say it here but i will. The missing 800 came out for C.P.T's usual stupid prize's e.g best hand,last lady standing ect.they also took for there league at a festival :eek: but then again we expect this from C.P.T who have yet to post on this matter even though they were partners at the event.

NUL150

PapaSmurph wrote: »

Jesus didnt think that was u Brian .... Sorry i take back what i said i actually now have to respect your views as you are a quiet guy i actually watched your table for a little while near two tables but had to go off .

But can i ask u the question did u see anything wrong yourself in the events that you played?

I mean you are commenting on something that has been proven different and all parties were happy with the outcome including the player in question from the way i read this.

im not saying anymore , i have had my suspicions in the past of rebuy tourneys i have won with b.s.p. and if everyone is happy with the outcome fair enough keep playing them all i said is that i am not

gigetheman

PapaSmurph wrote: »

Jesus didnt think that was u Brian .... Sorry i take back what i said i actually now have to respect your views as you are a quiet guy i actually watched your table for a little while near two tables but had to go off .

But can i ask u the question did u see anything wrong yourself in the events that you played?

I mean you are commenting on something that has been proven different and all parties were happy with the outcome including the player in question from the way i read this.

brian nolan is actually a very quiet and straight talking person and is entitled to voice his opinion as he has always supported the big slick events and therefor well in his right to ask questions ?????????

dannydiamond

I too know Brian well and can assure you he has no hidden agentDa against bigslick,he has been for many years now one of their most loyal players ffs.

He is well entitled to his opinion and as much as bigslick are entitled to forward an explanation,from their perspective.

I see no better place for any queries to be answered as it's out in the open,as I'm sure bigslick would wish.
Surely if a promoter is allowed to promote their events,players should be allowed to give feedback,good or bad?

I did not attend any of the tournaments in Clonmel myself but have been a loyal customer to big slick over the years and tbh the 'official statement' in the op seems to have done nothing to answer any questions/fears that the players had after the event,indeed it seems to have done quite the opposite infact.

Allow me to make something clear,I have no axe to gring or any agenda with Bigslick,but as a player feel it's only fair for them to answer any questions asked of them on this matter,for the sake of any future events.

nicnicnic

PapaSmurph wrote: »

I mean you are commenting on something that has been proven different and all parties were happy with the outcome including the player in question from the way i read this.

who are all the parties that are happy with the outcome, what players could be happy with this

BIG-SLICK-POKER wrote: »

Our findings were as follows.

1. Chip counts were incorrect.
2. Rebuy amounts were incorrect.
3. Prize fund was incorrect.

The Istanbul

Guys

Ye should be out hunting for hole on the night that's in it not getting horny discussing this stuff:p

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spoofingjam wrote: »

I just got a call from niall clearing the missing 800 euro and im happy with the explanation.I know he doesn't want to say it here but i will. The missing 800 came out for C.P.T's usual stupid prize's e.g best hand,last lady standing ect.they also took for there league at a festival :eek: but then again we expect this from C.P.T who have yet to post on this matter even though they were partners at the event.

come on now...this tournment was advertised as a joint venture but bigslick was running the tournment as kelly asured us in his opening post so why was money taken out for a cpt league when it was a joint venture...people wake up this just dont add up and why is kelly ringing other people and not answering the questions put to him

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PapaSmurph wrote: »

I mean you are commenting on something that has been proven different and all parties were happy with the outcome including the player in question from the way i read this.

cant totally agree with this

The commitee put a question to one of the organisers i relation to a complaint brought to them by one of the members of blazing aces.

the organisers investigated and returned the findings to the commitee and the "explaination" given and the gesture offered were accepted by the player.

no FACTS were proven other than,that an amount of money had been deducted from the prizepool and not declared. the amount is a figure given by the organisers as to what they believe to be correct.

NUL150 has every right to state his opinion and ask any questions he feels need to be answered,as he is to my knowledge a long time supporter of the organisers.

also any player who played this event has a right to question the statement given by the organisers,and also therefore in my opinion has a right to be answered by them.

Padraig

spoofingjam

no more wrote: »

come on now...this tournment was advertised as a joint venture but bigslick was running the tournment as kelly asured us in his opening post so why was money taken out for a cpt league when it was a joint venture...people wake up this just dont add up and why is kelly ringing other people and not answering the questions put to him

FYI i rang niall and there was no answer so he phoned me back. I do agree with your points though