Car Tax question

dok71 · 10-02-2009 4:10pm #1

I have a 2007 Passat 1.6 Petrol and have a car tax bill of €445 for the year.

I had a discussion with some lads in work about the severity of this and was told that if the emissions rate was lower, that I could go after this as opposed to paying the engine size rate.

is this possible?

Drummerboy08 · 10-02-2009 4:11pm

Nope, thats only possible for cars registered from January 2008 onwards.

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 5:03pm

€445 is not bad in any case, IMO.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 5:45pm

woops, looking at worng figures.:D

Morlar · 10-02-2009 5:50pm

Anan1 wrote: »

€445 is not bad in any case, IMO.

It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years so I would say . . .. yes it is.

carface · 10-02-2009 5:55pm

Morlar wrote: »

It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years so I would say . . .. yes it is.

?????????can you explain your point better???????

Morlar · 10-02-2009 6:14pm

carface wrote: »

?????????can you explain your point better???????

One person said €445 pa car tax is 'not bad' - I said yes 'it is'. Meaning - yes it is bad to have to pay that amount of money in car tax.

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 6:42pm

Morlar wrote: »

One person said €445 pa car tax is 'not bad' - I said yes 'it is'. Meaning - yes it is bad to have to pay that amount of money in car tax.

I think he's questioning your assertion that 'It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years'. And if you think €445pa in road tax is bad, just wait till you meet Mr Depreciation.

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:13pm

Anan1 wrote: »

I think he's questioning your assertion that 'It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years'. And if you think €445pa in road tax is bad, just wait till you meet Mr Depreciation.

Compared to the car tax cost of a 1.6ltr about say .... 4 or 5 yrs ago I would say it has at least increased by 100% wouldnt you ? In any event I would say that the cost IS bad which is the part that some people seem to disagree with.

I did not say that the greens couldnt possibly make it get any worse - I said that it IS bad.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 7:15pm

Morlar wrote: »

Compared to the car tax cost of a 1.6ltr about say .... 4 or 5 yrs ago I would say it has at least increased by 100% wouldnt you ? .

No, not at all. Motor tax was greatly unchanged for quite a few years before the Co2 rates came in.

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 7:17pm

Morlar wrote: »

Compared to the car tax cost of a 1.6ltr about say .... 4 or 5 yrs ago I would say it has at least increased by 100% wouldnt you ?

Eh, no - i'd be amazed if the cost of taxing a 1.6 had increased by even 50% in the past 5 years. And you said 'It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years', which is a couple of kilometres further again from the truth.

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:18pm

Stekelly wrote: »

No, not at all. Motor tax was greatly unchanged for quite a few years

I must be tripping here - you reckon it cost €460 to tax a 1.6ltr car 5 yrs ago ?

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 7:21pm

Morlar wrote: »

I must be tripping here - you reckon it cost €460 to tax a 1.6ltr car 5 yrs ago ?

You must be - that's not what he said. Read the post again.

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:22pm

Anan1 wrote: »

Eh, no - i'd be amazed if the cost of taxing a 1.6 had increased by even 50% in the past 5 years. And you said 'It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years', which is a couple of kilometres further again from the truth.

For gods sake split hairs all you like - the fact is it has gone up massively compared to other eu countries & the civilised world. You think it represents value for money for motorists ? Reasonable ? €460 for a 1.6 and around €550 for a 1.8 each year ? Thats an insane amount of money.

Fine - you (& the green party) and me can agree to disagree on that one.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 7:25pm

Morlar wrote: »

For gods sake split hairs all you like - the fact is it has gone up massively compared to other eu countries & the civilised world. You think it represents value for money for motorists ? Reasonable ? €460 for a 1.6 and around €550 for a 1.8 each year ? Thats an insane amount of money.
.

What has any of that got to do with your statement? "It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years so I would say . . .. yes it is." Theres no mntion of other countries or it's value for money. You made a statement that is completely wrong.

At least find some figures from 5 or 6 years ago to show it's gone up "massively"

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:25pm

Anan1 wrote: »

Eh, no - i'd be amazed if the cost of taxing a 1.6 had increased by even 50% in the past 5 years.

You should read that back at some point, seriously does that sound normal to you ?

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:25pm

Stekelly wrote: »

What has any of that got to do with your statement? "It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years so I would say . . .. yes it is." Theres no mntion of other countries or it's value for money. You made a statement that is completely wrong.

Sue me.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 7:27pm

Morlar wrote: »

Sue me.

So your just going to keep making stupid childish posts instead of either retractign your false statement or proving it?

Morlar · 10-02-2009 7:27pm

Stekelly wrote: »

So your just going to keep making stupid childish posts instead of either retractign your false statement or proving it?

Seriously get a life.

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 7:29pm

Morlar wrote: »

For gods sake split hairs all you like - the fact is it has . You think it represents value for money for motorists ? Reasonable ? €460 for a 1.6 and around €550 for a 1.8 each year ? Thats an insane amount of money.

Split hairs??:D You said 'It has increased a couple of hundred percent in a few years', which is complete and utter bollox. You're now trying to tell us that it's 'gone up massively compared to other eu countries & the civilised world'. Do you have figures, or did you just make that one up too?:D

Anan1 · 10-02-2009 7:35pm

Morlar wrote: »

You should read that back at some point, seriously does that sound normal to you ?

Id does, actually. I'll give you a hint, focus on the word a-m-a-z-e-d.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 7:46pm

Morlar wrote: »

Seriously get a life.

Good man.

I really dont know why I expected an adult answer . I mean your form was laid out in front of me. Schoolboy error on my part.

carface · 10-02-2009 8:24pm

dok71 wrote: »

I have a 2007 Passat 1.6 Petrol and have a car tax bill of €445 for the year.

I had a discussion with some lads in work about the severity of this and was told that if the emissions rate was lower, that I could go after this as opposed to paying the engine size rate.

is this possible?

your current road tax may in fact be cheaper than the new system 08>
can you post your co2 rating it will be on your cars vlc, the petrol engine has higher emissions so may be cat.d=430euro ur cat.e=630euro on new system.

Motor tax rates for 2004 : five years ago
1501cc>1600cc=391euro 1601cc>1700cc=414euro hope this helps

carface · 10-02-2009 8:49pm

dok71 wrote: »

I have a 2007 Passat 1.6 Petrol and have a car tax bill of €445 for the year.

I had a discussion with some lads in work about the severity of this and was told that if the emissions rate was lower, that I could go after this as opposed to paying the engine size rate.
is this possible?

Sorry missed your question.No this is not possible as new rates only apply to 08reg cars.

Guy:Incognito · 10-02-2009 8:50pm

carface wrote: »

your current road tax may in fact be cheaper than the new system 08>
can you post your co2 rating it will be on your cars vlc, the petrol engine has higher emissions so may be cat.d=430euro ur cat.e=630euro on new system.

Motor tax rates for 2004 : five years ago
1501cc>1600cc=391euro 1601cc>1700cc=414euro hope this helps

Sure would. According to Parkers, assuming its a 1.6 manual, the Co2 output is 182g, which would mean €630 motor tax.

alo1587 · 10-02-2009 9:32pm

Stop fighting!

carface · 10-02-2009 9:40pm

alo1587 wrote: »

Stop fighting!

whos fightn,where,why,when????????????????????

ninty9er · 11-02-2009 12:32am

Morlar wrote: »

Compared to the car tax cost of a 1.6ltr about say .... 4 or 5 yrs ago I would say it has at least increased by 100% wouldnt you ? In any event I would say that the cost IS bad which is the part that some people seem to disagree with.

I did not say that the greens couldnt possibly make it get any worse - I said that it IS bad.

THE FACTS
since 2004 it has cost €391 to tax a 1.6 engine
that increased 9.5% effective in 2008 = €428
that increased 4% effective in 2009 = €445.

Explain to me how that equates to an increase of more than 100%.

You sound like Joan Burton:rolleyes:

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