Tyrone V Kerry NFL

mcdermott

Can you pay at the gate for this game next week or is it ticket only?

How much is it?

Mr. Incognito

You can pay at the gate €15.

Should be a cracker. I'm expecting a big crowd.

mcdermott

good stuff

im looking forward to it, hopefully the pitch doesnt freeze over this week!

Yavvy

Im looking forward to this one .. I think Tyrone have to be fav;s but kerry will be out to prove something

blackbelt

Tyrone will be favourites alright.Mickey Harte will want to put out the same team as the one against Dublin.It will be harder for them without Dooher though but the fact that Kerry have to travel so far might be a big hinderance for them and the crowd at Healy Park are usually very hostile.

I think this will be a big factor and I am expecting this to boil over at some stage.Tyrone by 2 points.

Browney7

Tyrone 2/3. Kerry 13/8. Draw 15/2. It's on tv I asumme. Should be a great game alright. Especially since Kerry will want to lay down a marker and Tyrone will want to keep their momentum going.

Daysha

With Tyrone at home I'd go for them to win too I'd say. No more than 4-5 points.

shiibata

blackbelt wrote: »

but the fact that Kerry have to travel so far might be a big hinderance for them

True enough, sure look how it effected Donegal going down to Kerry:p

Agus

Quick Kennelly debut ruled out

10 February 2009

Kerry selector Ger O’Keeffe has dismissed reports that Tadhg Kennelly could make his senior debut in Sunday’s eagerly-awaited NFL clash with Tyrone in Omagh.

The 27-year-old, who recently quit the Sydney Swans to return to his native Kerry, trained with both Listowel Emmets and the Kingdom squads last weekend, but O’Keeffe has insisted that he will not be rushed into action.

"We haven’t selected a squad for Omagh yet, but we’d be reluctant to push any player too quickly," he said.

"Tadhg will know himself when he is ready - he’ll be under no pressure from us. We recognise what an athlete he is and fitness certainly won’t be an issue with him.

"He played a trial game and did well. He was a bit rusty as you might expect, but he’s got an early taste of it and that can only serve him well."

Significantly, O’Keeffe did not rule out Kennelly being part of the travelling squad for Sunday’s game.

gerocks

Browney7 wrote: »

Tyrone 2/3. Kerry 13/8. Draw 15/2. It's on tv I asumme. Should be a great game alright. Especially since Kerry will want to lay down a marker and Tyrone will want to keep their momentum going.

Scabby odds.

Amberman

Gonna be a great game...I can't wait to watch it!

mumhaabu

Kerry 2-10 Tyrone 0-13

The Kingdom win with a combination of subs and newbies. Tyrone had a 16th player in the most biased referee in GAA history but the Kingdom ruled supreme. Tyrone players had a near riot after the final whistle and even dragged Kerry boss Jack O'Connor into it too.

The scoreline did not represent the game and Kerry should have won by at least 10 points but a combination of new rules, bad referring and typical Tyrone tactics prevented much flowing football from happening. A warning shot was fired over Tyrones bow today and come September Tyrone will not be all-ireland champions if they meet Kerry along the way.

Disgraceful scenes out of the Tyrone players and management at the final whistle.

kerry4sam

All in All a really good week-end for Kerry GAA.
This is only the beginning though

news for you

mumhaabu wrote: »

Kerry 2-10 Tyrone 0-13

The Kingdom win with a combination of subs and newbies. Tyrone had a 16th player in the most biased referee in GAA history but the Kingdom ruled supreme. Tyrone players had a near riot after the final whistle and even dragged Kerry boss Jack O'Connor into it too.

The scoreline did not represent the game and Kerry should have won by at least 10 points but a combination of new rules, bad referring and typical Tyrone tactics prevented much flowing football from happening. A warning shot was fired over Tyrones bow today and come September Tyrone will not be all-ireland champions if they meet Kerry along the way.

Disgraceful scenes out of the Tyrone players and management at the final whistle.

A warning shot? Remind me of the league games in 05 and 08? Kerry defeated us easily on both occasions. Jeez, some people have no perspective. This evident bravado is interesting - Kerry get too hyped up about Tyrone or something. They HAVE to tell themselves that they are better footballers (this is the main one); that Tyrone are dirty; that they're gonna hammer Tyrone next time we play etc etc. I wouldn't begrudge the Kerry players a victory over Tyrone, but it'd be hard to be happy for a section of their support.

eoinbn

mumhaabu wrote: »

A warning shot was fired over Tyrones bow today and come September Tyrone will not be all-ireland champions if they meet Kerry along the way.

The result means nothing tbh. Kerry didn't seem to have any answer in the 2nd half, when Tyrone had regrouped, and only managed to score 2(?) points which is a worry for us. In the end I think both sides will be happy enough.

Orizio

kerry4sam wrote: »

All in All a really good week-end for Kerry GAA.
This is only the beginning though

Odd thing to say. The hurlers lost to Carlow didn't they?

yayamark

mumhaabu wrote: »

Kerry 2-10 Tyrone 0-13

The Kingdom win with a combination of subs and newbies. Tyrone had a 16th player in the most biased referee in GAA history but the Kingdom ruled supreme. Tyrone players had a near riot after the final whistle and even dragged Kerry boss Jack O'Connor into it too.

The scoreline did not represent the game and Kerry should have won by at least 10 points but a combination of new rules, bad referring and typical Tyrone tactics prevented much flowing football from happening. A warning shot was fired over Tyrones bow today and come September Tyrone will not be all-ireland champions if they meet Kerry along the way.

Disgraceful scenes out of the Tyrone players and management at the final whistle.

Please stop.

If your a kerryman your an embarrasment to us.

What rubbish, comments like this are more suited to manu v liverpool threads.

Tyrone scored 3 points in the 1st half = terrible

Kerry scored 2 ponts in the 2nd half = worse.

It was handbags at the end of the second half. I'd like to see it again though.

Jack o connor was trying to pull his men away when he got involved aswell

Colm McMennaim (sp) gave cooper some extra treatment all right which marc o se wasnt impressed with, which lead to the skirmish. Not nice to see but lets not exaggerate it. Cooper still scored a nice bit

McMennaim is a good player but pushes the boundaries of the rules too much. He's always doing stuff to irrate players but not enough to get sent off. its not what you would call sporting behaviour from him and before anyone says it there not all saints on the kerry team either

Kavanagh was interviewed after wards and just smiled about it saying it was nothing.

I would be embarrased as well to hear anyone say this was revenge for september. It wasnt. This is a league game in February, loong way way from sept. and if were lucky enough to get there in sept this game will stand for nothing.

kerry4sam

Orizio wrote: »

Odd thing to say. The hurlers lost to Carlow didn't they?

I said All in All a really good week-end for Kerry GAA and in reality that's what it was. Yes you are correct in that the county hurlers lost their match but did you happen to see the fight that they put up! the strength they showed! the promise?

as for the football side then: just about beat Tyrone in the senior league match this afternoon and won both the Junior and Intermediate yesterday in Croker.

so I don't agree that it was an odd thing to say, no. It was a really good week-end for Kerry GAA. It doesn't have to be victories all round on any scoreboard for it to necessarily be a good week-end for a county.

kerry4sam

yayamark wrote: »

...I would be embarrased as well to hear anyone say this was revenge for september. It wasnt. This is a league game in February, loong way way from sept. and if were lucky enough to get there in sept this game will stand for nothing.

completely agree with you yayamark and couldn't have put it better myself

Browney7

Orizio wrote: »

Odd thing to say. The hurlers lost to Carlow didn't they?

Ah but Who cares about a more skilful, entertaining, faster game????:P

Orizio

kerry4sam wrote: »

I said All in All a really good week-end for Kerry GAA and in reality that's what it was. Yes you are correct in that the county hurlers lost their match but did you happen to see the fight that they put up! the strength they showed! the promise?

as for the football side then: just about beat Tyrone in the senior league match this afternoon and won both the Junior and Intermediate yesterday in Croker.

so I don't agree that it was an odd thing to say, no. It was a really good week-end for Kerry GAA. It doesn't have to be victories all round on any scoreboard for it to necessarily be a good week-end for a county.

lol alright, a few years back Kerry would have been beating the likes of Carlow though wouldn't they?

I was suprised at how close it was. Is Shane Brick still palying?

kerry4sam

Orizio wrote: »

lol alright, a few years back Kerry would have been beating the likes of Carlow though wouldn't they?

I was suprised at how close it was. Is Shane Brick still palying?

too true but a few years' ago yeah. They are adding new faces and did make some positional changes aswell for obvious reasons.

Shane is playing for Kerry and started against Carlow, centre-forward I believe

Agus

yayamark wrote: »

Please stop.

If your a kerryman your an embarrasment to us.

What rubbish, comments like this are more suited to manu v liverpool threads.

Tyrone scored 3 points in the 1st half = terrible

Kerry scored 2 ponts in the 2nd half = worse.

It was handbags at the end of the second half. I'd like to see it again though.

Jack o connor was trying to pull his men away when he got involved aswell

Colm McMennaim (sp) gave cooper some extra treatment all right which marc o se wasnt impressed with, which lead to the skirmish. Not nice to see but lets not exaggerate it. Cooper still scored a nice bit

McMennaim is a good player but pushes the boundaries of the rules too much. He's always doing stuff to irrate players but not enough to get sent off. its not what you would call sporting behaviour from him and before anyone says it there not all saints on the kerry team either

Kavanagh was interviewed after wards and just smiled about it saying it was nothing.

I would be embarrased as well to hear anyone say this was revenge for september. It wasnt. This is a league game in February, loong way way from sept. and if were lucky enough to get there in sept this game will stand for nothing.

mumhaabu is a well-known WUM, and seems there are serious doubts whether actually from Kerry at all, so no-one should fall into the trap as a poster did on the last page. As you say, the result means little.

DDC1990

Missed the game (first Kerry game i've missed in years!!!) so i can't comment on the game but from the RTE website:


I know that insulting players is a no-no under the charter... but there is not an insult in the world that could describe the hate i feel for any player who spits in another's face.
<snip>

Mr. Incognito

what did tyrone score from play in the second half- one point?

all soft frees.

their goalkeepers basketball pass not called contrasted with mark o shea being shouldered, dropping the ball and it being called a throw was a joke.

that ref should never be left near an intercounty game again. sick of refs trying to "even" up the games.

Tyrone's keeper saved them a hammering in the second half.

cruiserweight

DDC1990 wrote: »

Missed the game (first Kerry game i've missed in years!!!) so i can't comment on the game but from the RTE website:


I know that insulting players is a no-no under the charter... but there is not an insult in the world that could describe the hate i feel for any player who spits in another's face.
<snip>

you have been banned previously for abuse and you say that you know it is a no no then why insult the player?

Banned

manster

Was at the game. It's a pity that all the talk is about RM as it really was a fascinating game of football. Jack could have learned a thing from Harte and stayed out of the firing line and off the pitch.
Kerry could do no wrong in the first half, yet could only score 2 points in the second. The expected Kerry 2nd half collapse almost materialised but Tyrone gave themselves too much to do. Was looking forward to seeing how the Kerry backs coped with Stephen O'Neill and was genuinely saddened not to see him start.
Ref was poor but it got me thinking that as the majority of players who get yellow cards will be backs that means there should be a bias towards the number of backs on the bench. To me the rule is a cop out from the GAA as the number of red card offences will now be non-existent and so bad press from poor referreing decisions will be reduced. However until such time that the 'tackle' is properly defined it will be up to the interpretation of the referee.
Ciarrai Abu

blackbelt

I know it is only the second round of the league but neither side looked like an All Ireland winning side today apart from Kerry in the first 15 minutes.I think Gooch has found his form again ie 2004-2007.

As for Tyrone,well I usually like how they beat Kerry but I was happy enough that they were taken down a peg or two today.I suppose it was a case of whoever won that I'd be happy.

Dublin showed that if you run at Tyrone,they don't know what to do and Gooch ran their defense rugged today.Tyrone didn't look comfortable today in Healy Park.It may be the case that when you put Tyrone in smaller venues,even their own,they are not quite the spectacular team you'd see from August to September.

As for the Galvan crotch grab.It was a disgrace but I thought he made a meal of it at the same time.McMenamin was also a disgrace.How he didn't get a red is beyong me.It is also apparent that Tyrone were missing the services of Dooher and starting O Neill.The new keeper had a good game after letting in 2 soft goals.Tyrones full back line looks very suspect these days.

As for Kerry going asleep..they were woeful in the second half.Only 2 points.I am sure O Connor will want to rectify that.Tyrone had many chances in the first half and had they took them,the final score would have been different along with the result.

hhhhhhhhh

The refereeing was atrocious! If three Kerry players deserved yellows then how McMenamin and No 11 for tyrone didn't receive yellows each on at least two occasions is beyond me! Not to mention the squeeze on Galvin, and the tackle on Marc O Se! Also, for those ignorant of as to why it was a good weekend for Kerry GAA, Kerry Club Teams won both the Junior and the Intermediate Club Football Finals.

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K-9

mumhaabu wrote: »

and come September Tyrone will not be all-ireland champions if they meet Kerry along the way.

You said the same in July last year.

shiibata

Did not see the game, listened to it on local radio at work and Martin McHugh who would not live to far from the ref, did say "he had a bad day at the office", said "McMenamin should def have had yellow card and McMahon should have got straight red and that the Kerry yellow cards were soft enough"

Personally, I would hate to be a ref going to ref a game in Omagh, would be like facing the lions in the colosseum in Rome.:D

Ref last year in back door in Omagh gave Tyrone everything too in 2nd half, against Westmeath was it?

Mr. Incognito

I went looking for the press clippings to see if the poor referring was mentioned- not really- from the Times

McMenamin might have followed McMahon but his rather personal interference with Paul Galvin went unnoticed whereas the victim was ticked for feigning injury. Referee Jimmy White explained afterwards that whereas Colm McCullagh had been ticked twice, the second had been unintentional and hadn’t counted – as the Donegal official explained to the player at the time.

How does that makes sense- if it's unintentional don't give a tick.

That ref was simply atrocious yesterday. How are we going to have any meaningful overhalll or consistency when their is no reporting of poor referring displays- they are quick enough to hype up a ref when he's had a good game.

mumhaabu

The fact the referee was from Donegal was a disgrace, he was from Ulster and Kerry recently gave Donegal a good beating so it was obvious even to someone who knew nothing about football that the referee was totally in favour of Tyrone and it was some of the worst refereeing I have ever seen. But the usual opinion "oh it is just Kerry shur they are always winning.. f&ck them" will prevail and nothing will be done about either Ryan McMenamin or they guy that gave Paul Galvin a squeeze a in the nuts. If Kerry did something like this the daggers would be out. Slapping a referees notebook was far a less incident than what Ryan McMenamin done by catching Marc O'Se and spitting into his face. He gives the majority of a decent clean Tyrone team a bad name.

dcr22B

It was McMenamin who gave Galvin the belated Valentine's present!

The_Kew_Tour

Why do Kerry always think they are victims in everything:rolleyes:

Mr. Incognito

I've raised a legitimate complaint about the ref here. It's not a victim complex- unlike other Kerryman around here I can be slightly objective at times and dismissing legitimate concerns about an exceptional biased referring performance in the second half is not a cruisade. DId you even watch the game or did you just wade in here throwing your eyes up to heaven in disbelief?

The result is meaningless as both sides will be greatly changed in personnel come the championship but if this is going to be an intercounty referees interpreatation of the rules using them to send players off on one team only when they are 12 points up I'm seriously worried.

homerjay2005

adrian280582 wrote: »

Why do Kerry always think they are victims in everything:rolleyes:

when u see the sort of s*te that went on in omagh, you would know why. once again, that **** mcmemin (ive put in 4 * to hide what i really think of him and not risk a ban) was a disgrace and as to how he stayed on the field is a disgrace. watching this match ive never been so annoyed and as to how anybody can defend this referee is appaling. we won this game fair and square but the paul galvin ticking was an absolute disgrace and just adds fuel to what alot of kerry people have been saying for a long long time.

The_Kew_Tour

homerjay2005 wrote: »

when u see the sort of s*te that went on in omagh, you would know why. once again, that **** mcmemin (ive put in 4 * to hide what i really think of him and not risk a ban) was a disgrace and as to how he stayed on the field is a disgrace. watching this match ive never been so annoyed and as to how anybody can defend this referee is appaling. we won this game fair and square but the paul galvin ticking was an absolute disgrace and just adds fuel to what alot of kerry people have been saying for a long long time.

Your defending Paul Galvin?? so what he did to the ref in the championship is alright is it?

Yesterday fair enough saw it and was harsh but in way what goes around comes around.. what he has done in past is far worse

Mr. Incognito

Your defending Paul Galvin?? so what he did to the ref in the championship is alright is it?

Yesterday fair enough saw it and was harsh but in way what goes around comes around.. what he has done in past is far worse

Contrasted with

Why do Kerry always think they are victims in everything

hmmmmmmmmmmm

The_Kew_Tour

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Contrasted with



hmmmmmmmmmmm

and your point is??

gillyfromlyre

What has Galvin done in the past that was worse, please explain, hitting notebooks?

gillyfromlyre

adrian280582 wrote: »

Your defending Paul Galvin?? so what he did to the ref in the championship is alright is it?

Yesterday fair enough saw it and was harsh but in way what goes around comes around.. what he has done in past is far worse

The difference is Paul Galvin got slammed in the media and got a ridiculously harsh punishment.

The_Kew_Tour

gillyfromlyre wrote: »

What has Galvin done in the past that was worse, please explain, hitting notebooks?

yes that and being the biggest sneakiest player I have ever seen.

smacking players of the ball abusing other players and well basically being a disgrace to football in Kerry.

Mr. Incognito

and your point is??

My point is you wade into a discussion on the Kerry Tyrone game where the ref was criticised for being inconsistent, which he was,

derail the topic with an off topic rant about Kerry having a victim complex and then derail the thread with uninformed and bigoted rant attaking a Kerry player that has

A. Nothing to do with the topic in hand
B. Is hilarious considering your victimisation point.

I thought I'd point that out- you do not seem to see the irony. It's like someone blaming Israel for having a victim complex and then turning around and telling a joke about the holocaust.

I'm sure a mod will be along to tidy this up in time.

On topic- I'm glad Kerry won and it will go a long way towards them qualifying for the quarters as they have a good few home games to come against Westmeath and Galway which I'd fancy them to win on current form.

The_Kew_Tour

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

My point is you wade into a discussion on the Kerry Tyrone game where the ref was criticised for being inconsistent, which he was,

derail the topic with an off topic rant about Kerry having a victim complex and then derail the thread with uninformed and bigoted rant attaking a Kerry player that has

A. Nothing to do with the topic in hand
B. Is hilarious considering your victimisation point.

I thought I'd point that out- you do not seem to see the irony. It's like someone blaming Israel for having a victim complex and then turning around and telling a joke about the holocaust.

I'm sure a mod will be along to tidy this up in time.

On topic- I'm glad Kerry won and it will go a long way towards them qualifying for the quarters as they have a good few home games to come against Westmeath and Galway which I'd fancy them to win on current form.

wow hold onto your high horse sunshine...I never brought up Paul Galvin first i was replying to answer from another post..

So dont be going on with that nonsense. so read first before you go and start telling the mod to get me kicked off. sad really

Guisseppeth

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

On topic- I'm glad Kerry won and it will go a long way towards them qualifying for the quarters as they have a good few home games to come against Westmeath and Galway which I'd fancy them to win on current form.

Is it not just top 2 in each division play in their respective final this year?? No quarters or semi finals??

cruiserweight

adrian280582 wrote: »

wow hold onto your high horse sunshine...I never brought up Paul Galvin first i was replying to answer from another post..

So dont be going on with that nonsense. so read first before you go and start telling the mod to get me kicked off. sad really

adrian280582 you need to tone down your posts a bit, at the moment it seems like you are trolling but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

This thread is being dragged off topic, it is about the Kerry vs Tyrone game, not about Paul Galvins past etc. I have already banned one user on this thread, I don't want to ban anybody else or close the thread, but if it continues this way I will have no choice

The_Kew_Tour

cruiserweight wrote: »

adrian280582 you need to tone down your posts a bit, at the moment it seems like you are trolling but I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

This thread is being dragged off topic, it is about the Kerry vs Tyrone game, not about Paul Galvins past etc. I have already banned one user on this thread, I don't want to ban anybody else or close the thread, but if it continues this way I will have no choice

i'll hold my hand up from my side in this

but im not the only one and have say is bit harsh to be just picking out me in this there being few more harsh words then mine in this.

newmills

blackbelt wrote: »

Dublin showed that if you run at Tyrone,they don't know what to do

That is some statement mod :rolleyes: from a dublin team that last beat tyrone in a championship match in croke park in 1995. Yes dublin ran at them but it wasn't a case of tyrone not knowing what to do otherwise dublin would have hammered tyrone out of site. The sign of a good team is one that sees what is going wrong on the pitch then counteracts that, as displayed by the final score.

blackbelt

newmills wrote: »

That is some statement mod :rolleyes: from a dublin team that last beat tyrone in a championship match in croke park in 1995. Yes dublin ran at them but it wasn't a case of tyrone not knowing what to do otherwise dublin would have hammered tyrone out of site. The sign of a good team is one that sees what is going wrong on the pitch then counteracts that, as displayed by the final score.

Yes it is some statement..in contrast to moving the ball around with hand passes and lobbing long high balls into the forward line it is.Btw,I don't see what my status on this site has to do with my post so don't roll your eyes at me.

Compairing or using the Dublin team of 1995 is nonsense.Dublin played a better direct open game then than they do now.Tyrone also played a different style back in 95.That is irrelevent though.

Take note,Kerry scored 14 points against Tyrone in the All Ireland Final.Dublin notched 1-16 in the opening round of the league 2 and a half weeks ago.Spot the difference,Dublin ran at Tyrone and exposed their defense in the second half.Tyrone couldn't cope with this and were on the back foot until Cavanagh rescued Tyrone at the end.1-16 should be enough to win any team a match.However,our half back line was guilty of giving Tyrone too much space and this is how we conceded most of the 1-18.

Take Kerrys performance in the All Ireland Final.Long ball after long ball was pumped in and it didn't work.Yesterday they played some diagonal balls into Gooch and also ran at them more at times.I am certain teams will pick up on this but Kerrys traditional style of football just about got them past the finishing line.I am sure Tyrone corrected their mistakes,thats why Kerry only scored 2 points in the second half.

In 2005,Dublin were 5 points up at half time in the drawn game.Mickey Harte made tactical changes at half time which saw Tyrone crowd out midfield where Dublin were dominating first half and Dublin couldn't get any clean ball.That was the sign of a great tactic by Harte but I didn't see any change in tactic a few weeks ago in Croke Park.There were no answers to what Dublin were threatening them with except luck (4 shots dropping short) and some superb points from Cavanagh at the death.

I think Tyrone would really struggle against Galway in this respect.