Pub bands Unite !!

rusty999

Does anyone here have an opinion regarding the minimum fee a good pub band should be able to charge? Its a subject i have never seen addressed here in Ireland , even though when i lived in other countries there always seemed to be an unspoken understanding that one band would not be undercutting another etc.
The venues in Ireland get away with murder as far as i am concerned , especially during the Boom time of the last few years. And now i am hearing more and more of bands being asked to cut their money, sometime by 50%, just to get the gig. That is bad!!

Rusty:eek:

biggus

Called competition and free market.

Also what you're proposing is highly illegal...ask car dealers and the LVA who were prosecuted for this .

biggus

Also in the last recession the fee midweek was a few free pints .

If you're that good the fees will come.

Also while i'm at it bands should learn the art of enteraining , not just playing good music.

By that i mean drama,timing, suprise, comment, comedy,dance or moves,and empathy with your relevant audience.

ham_n_mustard

There's nothing worse than looking at a band thats technically spot on, but are a collection of shoe-gazers. Sorry, there actually is, a band who have all comedy/moves/etc and just cant play.

+1 on the fees thing though. when i started out about 16 yrs ago, i played for free for two years, the band i fell in with bought me my first bass. To me it was more about getting out and enjoying the music rather than turning a few bob. This may have been because i was only 15, but anyways...

rusty999

biggus wrote: »

Called competition and free market.

Also what you're proposing is highly illegal...ask car dealers and the LVA who were prosecuted for this .

And what was i proposing then? i think you may have misunderstood my comments. I was simply pointing out that pubs have exploited musicians for years in my opinion-and i am entitled to my opinion by the way
theres nothing illegal about commenting on that so lighten up a bit

Rusty

rusty999

biggus wrote: »

Also in the last recession the fee midweek was a few free pints .

If you're that good the fees will come.

Also while i'm at it bands should learn the art of enteraining , not just playing good music.

By that i mean drama,timing, suprise, comment, comedy,dance or moves,and empathy with your relevant audience.

Thats a good point and the musicians who think otherwise are usually left on the fence to contemplate their nice shoes. Its ALL about entertainment and NOT about impressing their fellow musicians with the lost chord etc
Not enough bands take heed of this advice I guess

alanbb

ham_n_mustard wrote: »

Sorry, there actually is, a band who have all comedy/moves/etc and just cant play.

Yeah, there called Fight Like Apes.....

Sergio

I definitely agree about the entertaining factor with bands.musicians should be good at their instruments but also have personality aswell.
Im trying to get a good band together at the moment but am finding it difficult to find normal easygoing musicians with abit of personality.ive met a few people on here who were had no personality or charisma that is needed in a band IMHO.

rusty999

biggus wrote: »

Also in the last recession the fee midweek was a few free pints .

If you're that good the fees will come.

Also while i'm at it bands should learn the art of enteraining , not just playing good music.

By that i mean drama,timing, suprise, comment, comedy,dance or moves,and empathy with your relevant audience.

Dont ever remember playing for free pints thankfully. in my experience pubs do ok in recession times as people still need to relax and forget about the bad times outside the door.