Mixing supplements

gags89

hi,

i mix creatine tabs with fat burning tabs and Vitamin tabs as i like them better then the powders,

i head to the gym on average 3/4 times a week and eat an overall healthy diet nothing too much in excess...


is mixing ok or am i losing effectiveness?


my goals are to drop the bit v a beer belly( ideally i think 3kgs overall will do it) and just tone and strengthen up without getting like big and bulky



any opinions and comments appreciated!


thanks!

EileenG

Fat burners are generally best taken either with meals or a half an hour before, depending on which ones you are using. Creatine is generally better before and after workouts.

Vitamins are better with food, ideally divided between the meals.

Brian?

Why all the supplements?

Al_Fernz

briankeating wrote: »

Why all the supplements?

+1

OP you don't need those supplements to reach your goal and IMO they would provide you with little if even any benefits. Much better to focus your time, money and brainspace on developing an effective training strategy and appropriate diet.

gags89

well to be honest i feel more energised in the gym when im on them so i do alot more than i normally would, the vitamins i guess are just to make up for my lack of home cooked meals(student living away) and keep the overall health up!

i have noticed more toned look since i undertook these regimes...im basically burning the fat and building the muscle and its starting to show which im really proud of.

one note just on the money thing, i get the supplements off ebay so just a tip for you guys just incase anyone still does get them from argos or supplement store

€50 bottle of creatine in the supplement store on camden street cost me €22 online...


heres what i try to do in the gym each time, keep in mind sometimes i mix it up a bit to keep me interested and vary the exercise that works on the same muscle, but off the top of my head!


cross trainer burn 200cals,
row 2000m
20odd min cycle
stretch for about 10mins
dumbell chest press 22.5kg each 12 x 3
and that back exercise where you pull the dumbell up towards you with one knee on the bench. same weight 12x3
then i get a light barbell and do bicep curls or shoulder press (15x3reps) as a rest between sets(i take a longer break halfway through)
tricep rope pulldowns 12x3
the machine with the two cables and you pull them together standing in the middle?I do probably 5/6 sets of either the bicep curls, just pulling them together infront of me and switching hands (to start my arms are in an 'X' shape) and pull apart.

bench press 3 sets of 8/10 on about 60kgs, depends on how tired id be.

chest or pectoral press 3 x 12

and then maybe id just do some random exercises id feel like doing on the day and about a litre and a half of water!

but im going to start doing more core work now i have a good friend whos going to show me how to use the big workout balls properly!

any comments?improvements i could make?


thanks for the replies so far!

aye

gags89 wrote: »

cross trainer burn 200cals,
row 2000m
20odd min cycle
stretch for about 10mins
dumbell chest press 22.5kg each 12 x 3
and that back exercise where you pull the dumbell up towards you with one knee on the bench. same weight 12x3
then i get a light barbell and do bicep curls or shoulder press (15x3reps) as a rest between sets(i take a longer break halfway through)
tricep rope pulldowns 12x3
the machine with the two cables and you pull them together standing in the middle?I do probably 5/6 sets of either the bicep curls, just pulling them together infront of me and switching hands (to start my arms are in an 'X' shape) and pull apart.

bench press 3 sets of 8/10 on about 60kgs, depends on how tired id be.

chest or pectoral press 3 x 12

and then maybe id just do some random exercises id feel like doing on the day and about a litre and a half of water!

but im going to start doing more core work now i have a good friend whos going to show me how to use the big workout balls properly!

any comments?improvements i could make?


thanks for the replies so far!

You could work your legs?
Big muslce there getting ignored.
Squats and deadlifts with proper form. This will also work your core.

maybe balance it a bit more.
you have three chest exericses and one back exericse (bent over dumbbell row btw).

this "just pulling them together infront of me and switching hands (to start my arms are in an 'X' shape) and pull apart." might be a reverse cable fly if i'm reading it right.

why not just do the big compund movements?
bench, barbell row, deadlift, squat, shoulder press, chins and dips.

gags89

cool man thanks for the advice im gna try over the next week write down a set structure.

my legs i feel are getting enough as i do rack up alot of resistance on them in the cardio but it wont hurt to do a few squats!


thanks for the replies!

BossArky

aye wrote: »

You could work your legs?
Big muslce there getting ignored.
Squats and deadlifts with proper form. This will also work your core.


why not just do the big compund movements?
bench, barbell row, deadlift, squat, shoulder press, chins and dips.

+1

... and drop the abundance of supplements. You need to build a foundation with a good diet before you go filling yourself with supplements.

Try all the compound movements for a month or two. You'll find yourself getting stronger on them rapidly. When you stall, train harder. Keep going for at least 6 months focusing on improving your diet and effort levels.

When you feel you have taken your diet to the limit, then it the time to think about supplements.

What is the point in going straight from crap diet & non-optimal exercise regime to supplements? You will never know your full potential with a clean diet & proper exercises. It is like building a house on quicksand.

Hope that made sense - it is late :P