Planning contribution fees

planning

I got planning for my house recentelly. Cork County council are looking for 7,200 euro as a contribution fee before I start the house. I know alot of people around me who started construction last year and had to pay between 3,500 and 4,000. I don't mind paying this amount.

The fee is 24 per square meter and the first 40 square meters are exempt.

Has anyone other there expierenced these fees. I just can't understand how these fees could have jumped over 3,000 in one year?

-unlaoised-

€7,200... a lot less than in other counties.
I live in Meath, rough guide for house in country without public water or sewer is €12,000.

muffler

Some good pointers here. Be thankful you dont live elsewhere

TommyT

There was a good article on this in the property section of this weeks Sunday Times.
Incidentally, we have applied for planning to renovate and extend an old cottage, will we have to pay this or will we avoid it because it is an exisitng property?

muffler

TommyT wrote: »

There was a good article on this in the property section of this weeks Sunday Times.
Incidentally, we have applied for planning to renovate and extend an old cottage, will we have to pay this or will we avoid it because it is an exisitng property?

This work should be exempt.

I say "should" as you you need to keep an eye on the Co. Council especially as they are strapped for cash and I see them slap development contributions on proposed developments that shouldnt be applied at all.

Jemmy

Cutbacks, where do you think they are going to look for money for works now?!

TommyT

Jemmy wrote: »

Cutbacks, where do you think they are going to look for money for works now?!

They are taking €60 a week off each of their workers, is that not enough?

But seriously, where does this money go?

Jemmy

TommyT wrote: »

They are taking €60 a week off each of their workers, is that not enough?

But seriously, where does this money go?

More than 60 for some! It goes where i says in the conditions, to the roads and infrastructure.

TommyT

But the raods and infrastructure where I live never get any improvements, its the same in most country areas. Any money that has been spent in recent years has been on major roads, should or planning contribution fees go to that?

muffler

If you read the full details of this scheme you will see there is a claw back facility whereby if the local infrastructure has not been improved within a 5 year?? period then you can request a refund.

muffler

And here's a link to Donegal Co. Councils scheme which, apart from the cash figures, would be pretty much the same as the rest of the country.

clint_eastman

TommyT wrote: »

There was a good article on this in the property section of this weeks Sunday Times.
Incidentally, we have applied for planning to renovate and extend an old cottage, will we have to pay this or will we avoid it because it is an exisitng property?

I recently got planning for a couple in co. clare for an extension to their existing dwelling and they have been landed with around €1000 euros of a contribution fee. Its based on specific rates for water, roads etc and depends on the square meterage above a certain threshold. I do know that the ways and means of calculation and levels varies for each Local Authority. In your case you'll need to check with the LA but I would expect some sort of fee as if other LA's (Clare Co Co) are doing it then others most likely are as well.

dfcelt

Just paid 4,000.00 to Louth CoCo for fees OP, it varies greatly between counties, see previous threads.

"If you read the full details of this scheme you will see there is a claw back facility whereby if the local infrastructure has not been improved within a 5 year?? period then you can request a refund."

Thanks Muffler, didn't know that. My road hasnt had so much as a pothole filled in at least 5 years so hopefully another 5 goes by & I'll get some cashback :rolleyes:
Some chance of them handing it over I'd say, about as likely as the government announcing another SSIA scheme in the next few weeks.

muffler

Section 48 (12) of the 2000 Planning & Development Act states

(12) Where payment of a special contribution is required in
accordance with subsection (2)(c), the following provisions shall
apply—
(a) the condition shall specify the particular works carried out,
or proposed to be carried out, by any local authority to
which the contribution relates,
(b) where the works in question—
(i) are not commenced within 5 years of the date of payment
to the authority of the contribution,
(ii) have commenced, but have not been completed,
within 7 years of the date of payment to the authority
of the contribution, or
(iii) where the local authority decides not to proceed with
the proposed works or part thereof,
the contribution shall, subject to paragraph (c), be
refunded to the applicant together with any interest that
may have accrued over the period while held by the local
authority,

dfcelt

muffler wrote: »

Section 48 (12) of the 2000 Planning & Development Act states

Once again, I genuflect at the alter of superior knowlege

Cheers, that extract is being filed away for 5 years down the line.

sinnerboy

city4life wrote: »

once permission is granted whats the next move? working drawings? mortgage and en estimate. if one is building by direct labour who gives a quotation on the estimated costs?

Check that none of the planning conditions require further drawings to be agreed with the LA

rough guide to costs - here - depends on where you are

http://www.scs.ie/publications/digital_publications

Add 10% for professional fees OR - deduct large amounts of time you WON'T have to earn your living normally
Add planning permission levies

this is what you need to see if you can borrow

Now think about working drawings, BER cert etc