Bus in North Strand

The Swordsman

This morning, there was a bus with it's roof torn off in North Strand . There were a lot of Gardai around and they were directing traffic away from the scene

Anyone know what happened?

zefer

Saw it. A tree fell on the bus and the fire brigade had to cut roof off

The Swordsman

zefer wrote: »

Saw it. A tree fell on the bus and the fire brigade had to cut people out

I hope everyone who was involved are OK.

Mena

zefer wrote: »

Saw it. A tree fell on the bus and the fire brigade had to cut people out

Newstalk news said there were no passengers onboard and the driver was ok. They got it wrong it seems.

The Swordsman

Mena wrote: »

Newstalk news said there were no passengers onboard and the driver was ok. They got it wrong it seems.

Better to be safe than sorry.

Yakuza

Took this on my way in: (sorry for wonky angle)
I hope no one was hurt.

buffalo

Some photos over at http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055480479

(not mine)

Rawr

Yakuza wrote: »

Took this on my way in: (sorry for wonky angle)
I hope no one was hurt.

It seems like no-one got hurt, which is good.
On the plus-side, it looks like DB have got themselves a new tourist bus there!

The Swordsman

Rawr wrote: »

It seems like no-one got hurt, which is good.
On the plus-side, it looks like DB have got themselves a new tourist bus there!

LOL!!!

Or they could put a soft top on it and have Dublin's first convertible bus. Could be useful for those hot summers we're used to.

loyatemu

similar thing happened in Bray a few years ago - driver drove under a low bridge thinking he was in a single-decker. He wasn't...

bmaxi

Ready made addition to the Dubin Tours fleet.

godtabh

zefer wrote: »

Saw it. A tree fell on the bus and the fire brigade had to cut roof off

I think they are designed to peel off easily in the event of a strike from a large object such as a bridge. In this case it hit the tree and feeled off

Have a look at the attached

freemansjournal

zefer wrote: »

Saw it. A tree fell on the bus and the fire brigade had to cut roof off

Does anyone know what really happened? Gardai and Dublin Bus keep saying a razor sharp tree fell on it and tore the roof off. Anyone see the fire brigade cutting off the roof? Got pics?

Run_to_da_hills

One less bus that won't be replaced. :mad:

godtabh

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

One less bus that won't be replaced. :mad:

Wouldnt it be covered under insurance?

IIMII

kearnsr wrote: »

I think they are designed to peel off easily in the event of a strike from a large object such as a bridge. In this case it hit the tree and feeled off

Have a look at the attached

:eek: Are the passengers' heads supposed to peel off with it?

KC61

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

One less bus that won't be replaced. :mad:

Not necessarily.

Whenever this has happened before the buses have been repaired.

godtabh

IIMII wrote: »

:eek: Are the passengers' heads supposed to peel off with it?

They can just duck

In case anyone here hasn't seen it yet, a bus apparently hit a tree in the North Strand area of Dublin this morning. I put up a few pics of it here and here in a thread in the photography forum.

I'm posting here because it seems like the entire roof came off in one piece, almost as if by design. The windows on the left hand side (the side that the tree is on) don't even look like they've bee smashed/broken. Just wondering if anyone here knows what the story is in relation to this. Is it a safety feature to stop passengers being caught up in the snarled metal if the bus hits a bridge or something?

I was just wondering cause it seems to have happened all to easily. Thought somebody here might know and didn't want to start a discussion on it in the Photo. forum.

whiskeyman

I'm pretty sure reports now say the fire brigade cut off the roof when it was damaged?

EDIT - actually, just checked and there's a few different scenrios still doing the rounds.... one with one passenger upstairs, and the other with none!

rameire

i thought dublin bus werent implementing the cut backs for a month or so.

corktina

this is excellent forward planning by DB...when the need for a tree-lopper vehicle becomes apparent their bus transformed itself automatically into the ideal vehicle to deal with the overhanging branch. Well done DB planners!

Party Central

Just heard report on radio about the government trying to encourage use of public transport, the roof coming off a bus is a great way to encourage people alright!

Victor

kearnsr wrote: »

Wouldnt it be covered under insurance?

CIÉ self-insure up to a certain limit.

Capt'n Midnight

Victor wrote: »

CIÉ self-insure up to a certain limit.

IIRC it used to be £1,000,000

if anyone was wondering it means they get cheaper insurance because there they have a large excess on any claim they make. They have their own insurance people to deal with smaller claims.

Red Alert

They say there was nobody on it but in the photo you make out that the DMD is set on an actual route number, not 'As Seirbhis'.

Ste.phen

corktina wrote: »

this is excellent forward planning by DB...when the need for a tree-lopper vehicle becomes apparent their bus transformed itself automatically into the ideal vehicle to deal with the overhanging branch. Well done DB planners!

On that note, they do actually have an open top bus (possibly more than one) for that purpose. I've seen it coming out of Phibsorough garage once or twice

Victor

Threads merged.

patrickc

Red Alert wrote: »

They say there was nobody on it but in the photo you make out that the DMD is set on an actual route number, not 'As Seirbhis'.

yeh there were 10 people on it, all downstairs according to DB

Buffman

Apparently the CCTV shows a car cutting in front of the bus, forcing the bus driver to the left and into the tree. Also, the roof came off in the collision, it was not cut off later.

IIMII

Serious that a tree was allowed to grow out so dangerously accross the road though, or did the bus mount the verge?

Buffman

IIMII wrote: »

Serious that a tree was allowed to grow out so dangerously accross the road though, or did the bus mount the verge?

Don't think it mounted the path, just went over to the far left. From the pics the tree does look to be overhanging the road a bit.

L1011

kearnsr wrote: »

I think they are designed to peel off easily in the event of a strike from a large object such as a bridge. In this case it hit the tree and feeled off

Have a look at the attached

They are definately designed to do that - notice how every single photo of a post bridge-strike Alexander Dennis bus has the roof lying on the ground after? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7077725.stm is the same as our EV class here; and there are photos of it happening to DB buses.

I would seriously doubt the fire brigade had any cutting to do at all.

Buffman

MYOB wrote: »

I would seriously doubt the fire brigade had any cutting to do at all.

Your right, they didn't. To cut the roof off an upright double decker would be a major operation, involving a crane and lots of other equipment.
You can tell from the pictures of the rear bulkhead bent back on itself that the roof peeled off.

L1011

Seeing a new bus (erm, EV class?) on the roads today with its branch-bars on it - was wondering if these would have had any affect in preventing this happening? They can presumably be retrofitted to the AV/AX ones like the one in this incident.

Buffman

Deleted User wrote: »

Few more....

Looking at the size of that tree, and where the bus hit it (the stripped bark), I'd say it would have taken a bit more than the new branch-deflectors to save the roof.

Forward firing heavy machine guns and rocket launcher would probably have done the trick!:D

Run_to_da_hills

Buffman wrote: »

Looking at the size of that tree, and where the bus hit it (the stripped bark), I'd say it would have taken a bit more than the new branch-deflectors to save the roof.

If it had been one of these it would have survived and have ripped the tree from its roots.

Victor

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If it had been one of these it would have survived and have ripped the tree from its roots.

But the tree was a mere sapling back then. :pac:

Buffman

I've got too much time on my hands.:D CYI665 on cartell:
Description LEYLAND OTHER Make LEYLAND Model OTHER Fuel Type DIESEL Body Type BUS
I wonder does it have outstanding finance???:D

L1011

That very bus is still knocking around; I seriously doubt the owner would let you test it against that tree though!

Buffman

MYOB wrote: »

That very bus is still knocking around; I seriously doubt the owner would let you test it against that tree though!

No, thats just the free discription check, I'm sure if I shelled out and paid for a full check they'd say it's been scrapped. Unless it's being preserved, but what are the chances.

L1011

Buffman wrote: »

No, thats just the free discription check, I'm sure if I shelled out and paid for a full check they'd say it's been scrapped. Unless it's being preserved, but what are the chances.

Its preserved - thats why I made that post!

Run_to_da_hills

MYOB wrote: »

Its preserved - thats why I made that post!

That's some coincidence unless its a film set. Period VW Beetle and rear end of 70'ies motorcycle.

Buffman

MYOB wrote: »

Its preserved - thats why I made that post!

Oops, misread your other post. Nice pics, it looks like it's been restored to a time before the first pic, different CIE logo and numberboard and foglight. Nice find.

Run_to_da_hills

Buffman wrote: »

Oops, misread your other post. Nice pics, it looks like it's been restored to a time before the first pic, different CIE logo and numberboard and foglight. Nice find.

They should never have got rid of the flying snail logo.

Maldini2706

Buffman wrote: »

Apparently the CCTV shows a car cutting in front of the bus, forcing the bus driver to the left and into the tree. Also, the roof came off in the collision, it was not cut off later.

Heard the same about the car cutting in front from a person at DB, he said the roof was cut off though, although it was partially removed by the tree. I think it was an active bus but there was nobody upstairs.