PaddyP $40K promo

thedini

I know this is a money spinner for them but heh, how many many hds do you reckon it will take (stakes don't matter) for the month of feb.
I reckon I can do 180k hds but reckon it will prob be nowhere good enough.

opr

I am unclear from looking at the website about how the cash table is ranked.

Is it just purely on the number of hands you play regardless of the level ?

Opr

Lao Lao

thedini wrote: »

I reckon I can do 180k hds but reckon it will prob be nowhere good enough.

That's almost 6.5K hands a day for 28 days in a row :eek: :eek: :eek:

thedini

opr wrote: »

I am unclear from looking at the website about how the cash table is ranked.

Is it just purely on the number of hands you play regardless of the level ?

Opr

yea just raked hds

Chucky the tree

180k will definitly get you a prize bt no where near top spot. It's always been long suspect that a big majority of the full ring SSers have shared accounts for a long time and considering Ipoker have no interest in clamping down on this expect those accounts to run at least 17 hours every day.

fatguy

Chucky the tree wrote: »

180k will definitly get you a prize bt no where near top spot. It's always been long suspect that a big majority of the full ring SSers have shared accounts for a long time and considering Ipoker have no interest in clamping down on this expect those accounts to run at least 17 hours every day.

Hehe it's like the old honour system in WoW. If you didn't have at least two of you working shifts, there's no way you'd get High Warlord or Grand Marshall.

BigCityBanker

Chucky the tree wrote: »

180k will definitly get you a prize bt no where near top spot. It's always been long suspect that a big majority of the full ring SSers have shared accounts for a long time and considering Ipoker have no interest in clamping down on this expect those accounts to run at least 17 hours every day.

you couldnt be more wrong. this is checked and monitored quite closely - you will also see it in the t&c's that no more than 1 serial number can be logged per account. Just because press releases are not made highlighting exclusion it doesnt mean that action does not take place.

Chucky the tree

BigCityBanker wrote: »

you couldnt be more wrong. this is checked and monitored quite closely - you will also see it in the t&c's that no more than 1 serial number can be logged per account. Just because press releases are not made highlighting exclusion it doesnt mean that action does not take place.

Whats a serial number? Whats stopping two house mates sharing accounts?

Accounts cannot be utilized from more than 2 different serial numbers ("machine ID")

http://www.paddypowerpoker.com/freechips/cash-cow.php

Betfred's rule

6. Accounts cannot be utilized for the promotion purposes more than 17 hours per day. Any player which will play more than that, his points will be determined by the following formula:

Points accumulated X 17 / number of hours played.

http://www.betfred.com/poker/d.asp?show=600k_cash_race


:rolleyes:

cooker3

I simply don't believe that rake races aren't absolutely rife with account sharing. There is no way any 1 person could do what the people who wins these need to do to take down.
God knows I don't trust anything Ipoker/Playtech ever claim

BigCityBanker

cooker3 wrote: »

I simply don't believe that rake races aren't absolutely rife with account sharing. There is no way any 1 person could do what the people who wins these need to do to take down.
God knows I don't trust anything Ipoker/Playtech ever claim

for the purposes of those old races on noiq etc i fully agree with you - they were managed by the cardroom though and we all know what levels they maintained!

phantom_lord

BigCityBanker wrote: »

you couldnt be more wrong. this is checked and monitored quite closely - you will also see it in the t&c's that no more than 1 serial number can be logged per account. Just because press releases are not made highlighting exclusion it doesnt mean that action does not take place.

has anyone actually ever been punished for account sharing?

tipp86

Is this a paddy power offer or i poker wide?

max_power

tipp86 wrote: »

Is this a paddy power offer or i poker wide?

I'm fairly sure its just PP but i'm open to correction.

For any of the PPP crowd....

How many paddypoints would you say would be needed to get into the lowest bracket? Just a rough estimation even.

Will there be a leaderboard posted?

Pulsar Eagle

tipp86 wrote: »

Is this a paddy power offer or i poker wide?

i-poker wide,either that or vc have gone mad with a 400k rake race aswell as the rest of the sites.

RoundTower

tipp86 wrote: »

Is this a paddy power offer or i poker wide?

is it one of those where PPP advertise it as a PPP promotion and swear blind they don't even know who iPoker are? I remember when they did this before, they really must be the scummiest advertisers in the business.

zuutroy

tbh every ipoker skin does this with the promotions and the $2M gtd, or at least they dont allude to the fact that they're on a network.

Rb

phantom_lord wrote: »

has anyone actually ever been punished for account sharing?

Doubt it, sure they're probably nice guys who everyone likes so it'd be a bit unfair to punish them.

robinblinds

RoundTower wrote: »

is it one of those where PPP advertise it as a PPP promotion and swear blind they don't even know who iPoker are? I remember when they did this before, they really must be the scummiest advertisers in the business.

Don't be so f*cking ridiculous.

a) if you even have a half a brain, it will become clear to you that its ipoker wide.

b) other skins maybe don't want to do a bit of work on it and lash it up as is. Whereas we would like to add a bit to it.

Now if doing some work to get players on board is scummy, then I am a scumbag.

And if you think we are "the scummiest advertiser in the business"...you don't know the business.

dannydiamond

robinblinds wrote: »

Don't be so f*cking ridiculous.

a) if you even have a half a brain, it will become clear to you that its ipoker wide.

b) other skins maybe don't want to do a bit of work on it and lash it up as is. Whereas we would like to add a bit to it.

Now if doing some work to get players on board is scummy, then I am a scumbag.

And if you think we are "the scummiest advertiser in the business"...you don't know the business.

Fantastic irony,you've just got to love it.

robinblinds

dannydiamond wrote: »

Fantastic irony,you've just got to love it.

Thank you very much Danny :pac:

tipp86

robinblinds wrote: »

Don't be so f*cking ridiculous.

a) if you even have a half a brain, it will become clear to you that its ipoker wide.

b) other skins maybe don't want to do a bit of work on it and lash it up as is. Whereas we would like to add a bit to it.

Now if doing some work to get players on board is scummy, then I am a scumbag.

And if you think we are "the scummiest advertiser in the business"...you don't know the business.

Its up to them how they advertise ! I wouldnt expect them to mention i poker.

In fact there are probably customers there that have never heard of i poker. I remember when i started playing 3 years ago i was none the wiser and thought all these players were with paddy power.

I never saw anything wrong with there advertising and along with boyles there is a good marketing set up in place in both companies.

Tom Hanlon

A $400k freeroll and people still moan and try to poke holes in it!!

I suppose some people can never take the positive and just say well done and keep them coming. PP have been one of the main reasons for the poker boom in this country so why not give credit where credit is due.


Tom Hanlon

RoundTower

tipp86 wrote: »

Its up to them how they advertise ! I wouldnt expect them to mention i poker.

In fact there are probably customers there that have never heard of i poker. I remember when i started playing 3 years ago i was none the wiser and thought all these players were with paddy power.

I never saw anything wrong with there advertising and along with boyles there is a good marketing set up in place in both companies.

tipp86 - you're being very kind to him considering he thinks you don't even have half a brain.

robin - if it's so obvious it's an ipoker promotion why would you never in a million years consider mentioning this on the site?

Chucky the tree

Tom Hanlon wrote: »

A $400k freeroll and people still moan and try to poke holes in it!!

I suppose some people can never take the positive and just say well done and keep them coming. PP have been one of the main reasons for the poker boom in this country so why not give credit where credit is due.


Tom Hanlon

This offer has nothing to do with PPP though, it's an Ipoker offer. And up until recently PPP was one of the worst Ipoker sites around in terms of cashback. They fleeced there customers but since their customers were to thick to realise they got away with it.

nicnicnic

for some reason this sprung to mind reading the thread

cooker3

Chucky the tree wrote: »

This offer has nothing to do with PPP though, it's an Ipoker offer. And up until recently PPP was one of the worst Ipoker sites around in terms of cashback. They fleeced there customers but since their customers were to thick to realise they got away with it.

Fleeced is a bit strong. They don't need to offer the best deals. They have huge brand recognition and probably have the most Irish players of any site (that's a guess) so why exactly would they try to outbid anyone else?

Vamos

robinblinds wrote: »

a) if you even have a half a brain, it will become clear to you that its ipoker wide.

I admire the way you aim at your target audience.

Chucky the tree

cooker3 wrote: »

Fleeced is a bit strong. They don't need to offer the best deals. They have huge brand recognition and probably have the most Irish players of any site (that's a guess) so why exactly would they try to outbid anyone else?

I am not saying they should, if people arent bothered shopping around for a deal then tough, but I certainly dont agree with Tom who came on a said how brilliant PPP were for offering a 400k freeroll and it's a disgrace everyone is picking holes/attacking them. PPP are only doing it because they are on Ipoker, and the fact they never bothered with a decent VIP program before shows that they dont give a **** about there customers so less of the "PPP are great" lark is all I was looking for.

BigCityBanker

Round Tower - you are like a broken down record player, isnt it about time you got down from your soapbox and changed the record. Ordinarily I would opt for the ignore user option but I dont really want to deny myself the many opportunities to laugh at just how narrow minded and bitter you are.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

This offer has nothing to do with PPP though, it's an Ipoker offer. .

Eh hello? welcome to the world of business, who exactly do you think pays for this promotion? The skins pay for it on a pro rata basis based on size. As one of the biggest ipoker rooms we pay far more than you would guess towards this promotion.

With regard to the below, all i can say is that 2008 just called and wants its bitterness back, would you be so kind as to send it their way.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

And up until recently PPP was one of the worst Ipoker sites around in terms of cashback. They fleeced there customers but since their customers were to thick to realise they got away with it.

Chucky the tree wrote: »

I am not saying they should, if people arent bothered shopping around for a deal then tough, but I certainly dont agree with Tom who came on a said how brilliant PPP were for offering a 400k freeroll and it's a disgrace everyone is picking holes/attacking them. PPP are only doing it because they are on Ipoker, and the fact they never bothered with a decent VIP program before shows that they dont give a **** about there customers so less of the "PPP are great" lark is all I was looking for.

Chucky the tree

BigCityBanker wrote: »

Eh hello? welcome to the world of business, who exactly do you think pays for this promotion? The skins pay for it on a pro rata basis based on size. As one of the biggest ipoker rooms we pay far more than you would guess towards this promotion.

Why not just put this money towards an PPP only rake-race? This would probaly get you more customers no? Or do Ipoker tell you that you have no choice but to stump up the cash for it?

Paul Spillane

No you have a choice, we opted out as i don't think its a great promotion and seems to have been hastily done to compete with Ladbrokes.

We are currently deciding what to do with the money the promotion would have cost us.

BigCityBanker

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Why not just put this money towards an PPP only rake-race? This would probaly get you more customers no? Or do Ipoker tell you that you have no choice but to stump up the cash for it?

do you realise that we are also independently running a $10k weekly rake race, its called Back That Ace Up III, this is on top of the Cash Cow $400k race?

can you leave your shoes outside the door and they will be returned to you fully polished in the morning.

robinblinds

RoundTower wrote: »

tipp86 - you're being very kind to him considering he thinks you don't even have half a brain.

robin - if it's so obvious it's an ipoker promotion why would you never in a million years consider mentioning this on the site?

Why would we need to say this? Players know what network we are on...and besides, I don't work directly for ipoker.

Every skin has the commercial right to do their own promotion and marketing.

And as Noel already pointed out, we've had our own successful races going on since October.

Also just in response to Chucky, we've redesigned the VIP programme, in fact completely overhauled it, and if you bothered your hole to take a look you'll find that its now one of the best on the network, since the cull.

ArmaniJeanss

robinblinds wrote: »

If you bothered your hole to take a look you'll find that its now one of the best on the network

This should be your next advertising jingle.

robinblinds

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

This should be your next advertising jingle.

Don't be surprised.

RichardB2

BigCityBanker wrote: »

Ordinarily I would opt for the ignore user option but I dont really want to deny myself the many opportunities to laugh at just how narrow minded and bitter you are.

LMAO - Pot, kettle, black Noel? :rolleyes:

tipp86

RoundTower wrote: »

tipp86 - you're being very kind to him considering he thinks you don't even have half a brain.

True good point maybe i shouldnt have been so kind !

But least i have the brain to know that its not a good idea to play on paddy power Re : Rewarding players with $$$$

Wisesmurf

Good thing Boards isn't PP target market.

If PP gave Roundtower the $400k I'm sure he'd find something to complain about. Sigh...

HoLLLLLaments

wow at the way ppp employees are conducting themselves itt

RedJoker

Wisesmurf wrote: »

If PP gave Roundtower the $400k I'm sure he'd find something to complain about. Sigh...

He's making sure people who were unaware know that this is an ipoker wide promotion, not just a PPP promotion so you'll be competing with players on many different skins.

And also pointing out that PPP have historically been less than transparent with their advertising policies.

Don't know what he has to complain about, I doubt he plays on PPP or gives a crap about participating in this promotion.

HoLLLLLaments wrote: »

wow at the way ppp employees are conducting themselves itt

Agree, really unprofessional.

robinblinds

RedJoker wrote: »

He's making sure people who were unaware know that this is an ipoker wide promotion, not just a PPP promotion so you'll be competing with players on many different skins.

And also pointing out that PPP have historically been less than transparent with their advertising policies.

Don't know what he has to complain about, I doubt he plays on PPP or gives a crap about participating in this promotion.



Agree, really unprofessional.

In the past I have never responded like this, and I can't imagine it happening again. But this time I don't see how responding is wrong or unprofessional, for reasons highlighted in bold above.

That stuff would tilt Jesus.

BigCityBanker

robinblinds wrote: »

That stuff would tilt Jesus.

tells me he has done good work on his tilt control lately, he has a more positive outlook overall.

noaces

Paddy Power Poker. I used to love it when it was on the Tribeca site as did everyone. I hate the ipoker software though. It is totally unflexible and kinda clunky if you ask me. TBH I thought the Tribeca software was better. Since I moved to Pokerstars I really cant force myself to play anywhere else. It is just so far ahead of everyone else in the market. To the lads working on Paddy Power Poker( Did you ever think of going it alone - on your own network) or is this completely unfeasible as traffic would prob be very poor?

robinblinds

In an ideal world going it alone would be the way to go, noaces.

Stars is like a country. It would scare you to see exactly how big they are. So everybody aspires to do what they do.

Ste05

robinblinds wrote: »

But this time I don't see how responding is wrong or unprofessional, for reasons highlighted in bold above.

I doubt he was referring to responding to criticism as being unprofessional, maybe just the manner of those responses. This is quite a prominent and public forum, so you're not just replying to RT, et al here. Just something to keep in mind.

robinblinds

Of course.

As I said in the post in which you quoted me, it won't be happening in that manner again.

noaces

robinblinds wrote: »

In an ideal world going it alone would be the way to go, noaces.

Stars is like a country. It would scare you to see exactly how big they are. So everybody aspires to do what they do.

Yea its hard to see what others can do to try and take away some of their share of the market. On the flip side PPP is now miles ahead of the likes of Ladbrokes and Betfair and William Hill all of whom might have possibly had more traffic than you 4 years ago. Why do you think Ladbrokes insists on their standalone network when it is obvious it is after dying a death!

Ste05

BTW, how long has this promo been running???

I see the leader has played 131,835 raked hands...

thedini

Ste05 wrote: »

BTW, how long has this promo been running???

I see the leader has played 131,835 raked hands...

since the 1st thats sick, thats about 33,000 hds a day, how is it even posible?

Ste05

The 1st of February???

WTF, that's ~26k hands per day!!

Say 16 tabling at 70 hands per hour that comes to about 23 hours a day.

LOL, at anyone saying this isn't a team playing....

EDIT: That also assumes every single hand was raked... which it wasn't. So this account has obviously been playing 24 hours a day.

Chucky the tree

thedini wrote: »

since the 1st thats sick, thats about 33,000 hds a day, how is it even posible?

account sharing, I'm sure the Ipoker lads will deny this though.