Help needed with cars been vandalised in drive way.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 1:12pm #1

How's it going lads
Not sure if this is the correct fourm for what im asking but hopefully someone can advise me. I need to get hold of a good out door security system that would include a good motion camera and spot light that would pick up a good night image of some **** that keeps vandalising our cars.

Both my mothers car and now my own are been vandalised and have been for the last 3/4 mths. My motheres car has had 10 punctures and each time there were between 2 and 3 sharpened nails found in the tyres and she has had to replace two tyres so far on a 08 corolla.

Mine started two weeks ago when i found a nail in my rear tyre and this morning my new front driver side tyre has been slashed and needs replacing.
I haven't driven my car for a month now as theres a problem with the earth and so i can't get it to spark, a problem for which i posted on here some weeks back so this is not something thats happening from driving or wear and tear.

I can't tell you what this is doing to us and for no reason, apart from the expense and the massave hassel of finding this at 6:30am when you need your car its also the danger of blowouts and the like.

Went to the guards and they found it a little funny and asked if we could keep the nails but what can they do really if im honest.

Can anyone recommend a good outdoor security system to me or where to get one. Thanks.

Mena · 31-01-2009 1:20pm

Something I saw in operation back in South Africa a few years ago. Something tells me it's not a viable option here though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDrzMGdYWZc

On topic and more seriously, I've seen outdoor systems that work but the night capture is the problem, pictures are dubious at best, even with spots. I'd think your best bet is to catch them in the act one night, easier said than done though...

The Guards laughing kinda pisses me off though :mad:

Plug · 31-01-2009 1:22pm

Your up to nothing going to the guards. Putting up a security camera/system they will think your a twat and they will continue to vandalise only worse. All they need is a hoody and a scarf.
Have you got any relations about 17 - 20 or just go out and catch them and give them a few digs, thats the only language these knackers understand. Do you know ere they live maybe have a word with the parents.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 1:30pm

We are 90% certain who is doing it and it's a married man in his 50s who lives right across the road and we have no reason for the nut case to be doing this other than he's a ****ing drunk and this all started when my mother came into a few bob last year and bought the first new car ever to come into the house and we haven't had a moments peace since.

Were living on a country lane with only a couple houses around us and so its not a case of needing the guards to tell us who is doing it we just want it to stop before something really bad happens cos im not as quiet as my mother and having to run your hands over your tyres every morning is a bit sad.

david · 31-01-2009 1:32pm

A big bear trap.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 1:35pm

david wrote: »

A big bear trap.

Wouldn't i just ****ing love that, man what i wouldn't do to the twat at 6:30am after finding my tyres slashed and find him traped.

Plug · 31-01-2009 1:39pm

johnplayerblue wrote: »

We are 90% certain who is doing it and it's a married man in his 50s who lives right across the road and we have no reason for the nut case to be doing this other than he's a ****ing drunk and this all started when my mother came into a few bob last year and bought the first new car ever to come into the house and we haven't had a moments peace since.

Were living on a country lane with only a couple houses around us and so its not a case of needing the guards to tell us who is doing it we just want it to stop before something really bad happens cos im not as quiet as my mother and having to run your hands over your tyres every morning is a bit sad.

Hidden camera, sorted, Then court him!*
Personnally if I were you I'd literally go out and give him a bad hiding and I garantee you that you'll never ever have a problem with him again;)

*(bring him to court that is):pac:

homer90 · 31-01-2009 1:39pm

Putting up a security camera/system they will think your a twat and they will continue to vandalise only worse. All they need is a hoody and a scarf.

Kinda agree with this... might freak them out first but from then on they will be on to it !!

You need to catch them in the act, and security lights may help, get a few over
and have an old fashioned stakeout. Once caught rough them up a bit call the cops.

Again sorry for your troubles - Its a bit of a nightmare

py2006 · 31-01-2009 1:40pm

johnplayerblue wrote: »

We are 90% certain who is doing it and it's a married man in his 50s who lives right across the road and we have no reason for the nut case to be doing this other than he's a ****ing drunk and this all started when my mother came into a few bob last year and bought the first new car ever to come into the house and we haven't had a moments peace since.

Were living on a country lane with only a couple houses around us and so its not a case of needing the guards to tell us who is doing it we just want it to stop before something really bad happens cos im not as quiet as my mother and having to run your hands over your tyres every morning is a bit sad.

Wow, a 50yr old man. Well he definietly wont be wearing a hoody and scarf!!

You can probably catch him red handed!

Tabnabs · 31-01-2009 1:42pm

If you have a wall with pillars at the front of your garden/drive, then you can get a beam & sensor which can be linked to an alarm, either internal or external. Or an internal buzzer or bell would alert you to someone entering the drive once the system is switched on and then a quick look out the window would confirm if it's your culprit. Ask the guys on the electrical forum in Home & Garden, they will have lots of ideas.

sassa · 31-01-2009 1:43pm

http://www.equicom.ie/cctv-security-camera-with-night-vision--sony-lens-51-p.asp

http://www.equicom.ie/high-power-camera-with-night-vision-20-p.asp

Found these two cameras using google. You might find better these were just the first 2 that came up the 2nd seems the better option as you can set it up to record using your dvd recorder/vcr.
As mentioned earlier this could just provoke him to do worse to the cars.

Captain Slow IRL · 31-01-2009 1:44pm

johnplayerblue wrote: »

We are 90% certain who is doing it and it's a married man in his 50s who lives right across the road and we have no reason for the nut case to be doing this other than he's a ****ing drunk and this all started when my mother came into a few bob last year and bought the first new car ever to come into the house and we haven't had a moments peace since.

If you're so sure it's him, why don't you just threaten to sic the gardai on him if he doesn't stop? Sorry to hear about your situation, must be really frustrating.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 1:52pm

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

If you're so sure it's him, why don't you just threaten to sic the gardai on him if he doesn't stop? Sorry to hear about your situation, must be really frustrating.

Easyer said than done when you think about it, i know what i'd like to have done with him but in the long run i just want a quiet life but if i can get the basterd over a barrel with pictures i'd have the **** right where i want him. Two choices, court/garda or hit him where it hurts and also in his pocket.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 2:00pm

Dyflin wrote: »

If you have a wall with pillars at the front of your garden/drive, then you can get a beam & sensor which can be linked to an alarm, either internal or external. Or an internal buzzer or bell would alert you to someone entering the drive once the system is switched on and then a quick look out the window would confirm if it's your culprit. Ask the guys on the electrical forum in Home & Garden, they will have lots of ideas.

I really like this idea and in fact im going hunting something like this down. Theres only one way in and one way out with two pillars at the end of the drive.

Gran Hermano · 31-01-2009 2:07pm

Lidl are stocking home CCTV on the 5th:

http://www.lidl.ie/ie/home.nsf/pages/c.o.20090205.p.ColourSurveillanceCamerawithDigitalVideoReceiver

Also hook up a few floodlights on sensors around the perimeter.

audismelly · 31-01-2009 3:08pm

Would you consider a dog?

Fighting Irish · 31-01-2009 3:14pm

get yourself a dvr and get a good wireless pinhole camera(off the net) and put up a sensor light
once u find out for defo who it is do the same thing to them

cuterob · 31-01-2009 3:35pm

buy a baseball bat

spurious · 31-01-2009 3:40pm

audismelly wrote: »

Would you consider a dog?

+1
Big noisy beast that will bark like billy-o if anyone comes near.
Or a little yapper.

DarkJager · 31-01-2009 3:46pm

I'd lie in wait for him to start vandalising the car, then go out and beat him senseless. Maybe you can tuck a few of those nails he left between your fingers, just to get your point across.

The Muppet · 31-01-2009 3:58pm

Maplins do some half decent cameras and recorders. If you have an old pc you can use that with a dvr card as the recorder. Steer clear of the cheap ebay cameras.

I got cctv front and back of my house after my car was vandalised and I have had no problems since. I was surprised at how quickly the local kids spotted the cameras (even the covert ones). I didn't suffer adversly by getting the system but I don't think the damage to my car was caused by locals, I think someone was trying to steal it.

uiscebeatha · 31-01-2009 4:15pm

audismelly wrote: »

Would you consider a dog?

I'd be careful about that...

If someone went in to vandalise your car and the dog bit him, the law says your in the wrong. Despite the fact that he was trespassing and basically up to no good, he could sue you!:rolleyes:

Dazzy · 31-01-2009 4:38pm

How far is the car from the house? Ideally you want to be able to mount a camera on the house as you need to get power and signal to it. If you do go down the CCTV route ensure that the camera works with 0 lux (no light) and has built in LED's that help it see at night. Check the camera spec to ensure that it will work at night at the distance you want. The LED's come on at night so the camera is easy to spot.
I recently bought a stand alone cctv system, 5 outdoor cameras, and 500 GB DVR for just under €600. It has a built in Software motion sensor. There are cheaper cctv alternatives but just make sure you get the right equipment for the job.

johnplayerblue · 31-01-2009 4:55pm

Dazzy wrote: »

How far is the car from the house? Ideally you want to be able to mount a camera on the house as you need to get power and signal to it. If you do go down the CCTV route ensure that the camera works with 0 lux (no light) and has built in LED's that help it see at night. Check the camera spec to ensure that it will work at night at the distance you want. The LED's come on at night so the camera is easy to spot.
I recently bought a stand alone cctv system, 5 outdoor cameras, and 500 GB DVR for just under €600. It has a built in Software motion sensor. There are cheaper cctv alternatives but just make sure you get the right equipment for the job.

Thanks for the help lads, i think the link below is a pretty good option at 152e and they have 2 in stock in Blancherstown.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=98043#checkstore

david · 31-01-2009 5:47pm

Wouldn't be hard to keep an eye on the car from say 1-2pm Fri/Sat night and snap a pic for the guards. Does (s)he do this often? Every week?

reggiethefirst · 31-01-2009 7:39pm

Giving him a few slaps would probably be the most satisfying, but you'd probably end up in more trouble than him. Now if someone else gave him a beating... Or I have a schematic for a fairly lethal home made taser I've been wanting to try out. Getting the bastard to touch two seperate metal contacts would be a problem though...

stapeler · 31-01-2009 8:36pm

A friend was in a similiar situation, He installed a simple CCTV system and caught the culprit. He approached the individual who threatened the Gardai for making false acquisations. When CCTV was mentioned the tone changed:D He notified the Gardai, was compensated but didn't press charges on the condition if a similiar incident occured again he would press charges.

A simple CCTV system could be run off an old computer or laptop. Possible to do less than €100.

Camera around €20
Cable around €15
Laptop Capture device Around €20 Software usually included
PC Capture card I've been using this one fot the past year on an old Celeron based PC and it works very well.

A wireless option is also possible. With a broadband connection then remote monitoring is possible. System activates when there's movement so no need to continously record.

If you do decide to give the culprid a few slaps (not recommended) make sure the camera are switched off first

Help needed with cars been vandalised in drive way.

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