Would you be more likely to go to the Student Bar if...

lego

Landa2 wrote: »

eh, anyone who can log into life check this out....

http://life.dcu.ie/discussion/viewthread/79/P60/

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The bar was crap because students did not go.
Students did not go because many of them are on a very limited budget and cannot justify paying €4 for a pint when €7 will easily get them 6 cans.
The bar will fail until it starts selling cans like the pav in TCD (a proper student bar).

I've looked at the life.dcu.ie thread on this and people are repeatedly suggesting the following:

Sell cans like the pav in TCD at the lowest feasible price.
Change the license, get rid of the unnecessary bouncers.
And possibly, start serving grub again.

It shouldn't be that difficult to acquire a proper bar license considering all the bars that are closing around the country at the moment - when I left my home town to go to DCU there were 35 pubs there, now between the effects of the smoking ban and drink driving ban there are 17. (The drink driving ban was necessary though).



The bar managment (Trispace?) have done some pretty idiotic things over the past while (like keeping the bar closed on freshers & clubs and socs days, when the hub was bursting at the seams with students).

If the slipper can offer €3 pints on Tuesdays, surely a student bar can undercut that price by selling cans of Dutch Gold, Amstel, Carlsberg etc...

lego

Tonight I called in to the DCU bar with my friend. I showed my student ID to the bouncer lady but my friend was refused as she was 'not a student' (although she is St. Pats alumni). This happened around 12 and with late opening hours they should be open until around 2AM.

Neither of us had anything to drink before going there.

I have been able to bring her as a guest into the DCU bar for years and this is the first time she was refused. DCU bar has hit a new low.

Landa2

Ok... from the top... Cans like the PAV, as you seem to know its not in our licence so it def wouldn't be allowed... as for acquiring a "proper" licence, we have difficulty enough keeping the one we have, let alone asking for another giving more freedoms.

Unnessesary bouncers, one door security is nessesary to insure that just anyone cant walk into the bar.. i agree most nights 2 is overkill but being security i know that basic it is 1 security person per 100 people, there should also be a female and male on the door at all times, for obvious reasons (just in case) so 2 is acceptable, nothing can be done

Grub is the best idea by far.. that area with the shutters down constantly used to server the basics, chips breakie roll etc.. there is no reason they cant do this, only the seem to be sabotaging themselves as of late...

Tonight.. dont get me started.. i had my own dealings with certain security tonight.. complaints will be made..

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It's so disheartening to be in a college that advertises itself as being at the leading edge when in actual fact it's simply not the case.

Now don't get me wrong I find academic wise it's grand...by no means perfect, but acceptable without making a song and dance about it. I'm very happy with CA1 so far personally.

Social wise Clubs and Socs are great, loads of stuff on all the time. Where i'm just plain lost for words though is the bar...one day a week, its actually pitiful. The cost of food in shops and the lack of competitiveness in the place is a joke also. €6 for a drink and a chicken roll...:mad:

Why we don't have anything half resembling the Pav, UCD student bar, Maynooths student bar...list goes on...is just farce!

A SU shop run by the students for the students (non/ low-profit) could sell a variety of things that we buy everyday in Spar or the vending machines at extortionate prices.

It's obvious to me that the whole bad management issue is killing the bar. DCU, SU, Tri Space, The Goverment... Whoever the hell is in charge. Who do they think they are to provide crap service at a worse price. €3.50 for a pissy pint in a plastic cup...are they having a flippin giraffe!?!

I'm a rational person so you'll understand why only been to the "College Bar" twice maybe. Only once staying for a substantial amount of time. It's not really a student friendly place at all.

Surely a college bar should have college prices, not prices that are relitively comparable with other local establishments. It should have a lot of things it doesn't have.

The SU on the face of things seem to be doing a great job. They wouldn't be in line with my taste college balls acts now, but ya can't please everybody...sorry dudes! =D

It's obvious that they are working hard and doing there level best to bring a bit of enjoyment to the place, but they seem to be trying to fight an increasingly harder battle on this bar issue.

Now i'm no expert but i do know a lot about cost prices of items in shops.

If I was to say you could sell a 500ml bottle of coke for €1, a cup of tea for €0.25, a toasted ham and cheese sandwich for €1.50 or a can of beer for €1.50 (not that dribble you get x for y euros by the way) and be making a modest but acceptable level of profit then i'm sure you'd asking me where this shop was.

In reality there are plenty of places that could do it, if they we're managed efficiently and sold a reasonable quantity of goods.

It's certainly not beyond the scope of reality to have somewhere like that in DCU.

Now it seems to me that if DCU cut out the rot and put in place a series of measures that benefited the Students over the Companies. The companies that we pay our hard earned student cash over to, it would be a much better place for all.

Maybe we'd even have a vibrant, entertaining and enjoyable bar to pop into any day of the week. Afternoon or evening.

Who are they to make money off me? I have very little in the first place. I'm just trying to better myself acidemicaly and want to have a bit of enjoyment while I do it.

A cheap and cheerful place to have a bite and a beer...It's not rocket science.

I just wonder if we could get whoever is leeching the enjoyment of college to stand down and we (the students) get some willing help in to assist us in doing it ourselves.

Right, it seems to me that there are the same few recurring issues coming up all the time. They are:

1. Drinks Promotions - I agree fully with this, if the drink is affordable, the craic will come with it.
2. The Staff - There is only one very good bar man behind that bar and it shows on a busy night. Apart from that, the staff are slow and don't know many drinks at all.
3. Deliberate running to the ground - It seems to be coming up all the time, this feeling that the powers that be are deliberately going out of their way to end the student bar. It seems a bit silly seen as though that bar, if run properly, is a little goldmine. Taking into account, the amount of money they lose on the helix every year, it makes sense to devote some time and attention to the student bar.
4. SU's presence - To be honest, I have nothing against the SU this year: they are doing their best. A lot of people are throwing abuse at them but last year when all these plans were being made, hardly anything was done about it. €3 tuesdays disappeared and the SU didn't seem to care that much. The bar would be better if it was allowed to be run by the SU but as far as I can see, that will never happen.

So, would you be more likely to go to the Student Bar if:

• It was open twice a week, with or without music- no big names but just one or two budding bands/artists from around DCU.
• DRINKS PROMOS. Nothing too major but something like a pitcher for €10.
• New staff. Use students from round campus, faces that we see on a daily basis.
• Greater use by clubs and socs - As cactus_jack said, art soc could "do a few fancy bits around the place". This would give us more of a feeling that it is our bar, our space.

What do ye think?