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will landlord give me rent allowance

  • 26-01-2009 3:50pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭


    i have being made redundant...i pay 320 a month in rent sharing a house, i dont think my land lord has declared the house for tax and wouold this mean that they wont sign the forms for rent allowance...is there another way around this thanks for any help


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 988 ✭✭✭IsThatSo?


    His tax decisions are not your problem. If he doesn't sign the forms contact local office and ask them what you should do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Yes,

    Juts download the Rent 1 from the Revenue website, put in your address and sned it in to your local tax district leaving the landlords PPS number blank.

    You'll still get the relief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭memeandmark


    Mr. Incognito & IsThatSo?
    thanks for the reply but what if i get the allowance and then the landlord finds this out when he gets the cheques from the government...i dont really understand the procedure of it


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Yes,

    Juts download the Rent 1 from the Revenue website, put in your address and sned it in to your local tax district leaving the landlords PPS number blank.

    You'll still get the relief.

    If I'm reading it correctly, the OP is referring to the rent supplement allowance, rather than the tax credit for Rental payments.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Not your problem.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Mr. Incognito & IsThatSo?
    thanks for the reply but what if i get the allowance and then the landlord finds this out when he gets the cheques from the government...i dont really understand the procedure of it

    Can you clarify OP if you're looking for rent allowance from Revenue or rent supplement(look both terms up) from the HSE?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭memeandmark


    hi snubbleste...it would be rent allowance from revenue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭PurpleBerry


    Just to clarify

    Rent Relief is claiming tax back on rent which you have paid over the course of the tax year.

    Rent Supplement is claiming assistance from the HSE as your income is too low to maintain your rental obligations.

    Rent Allowance is the previous term for Rent Supplement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭eden_my_ass


    To the best of my knowledge I believe your landlord has to actually vouch for your tenancy to receive rent allowance, so you can't easily do it behind his back. Besides which you're correct in saying the rent allowance will come to him every week anyway so he would soon know. You'll have to approach him on this one, its not ideal from his point of view either, more hassle, tenant likely to be home more than before so more wear and tear but if you're honest with him and have a good relationship (and he knows you're not one of the happily permanently unemployed) it should be fine.

    Of course as you say if hes not tax compliant, he will not want to run the risk of social welfare informing revenue that he is a landlord! Good luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭dlambirl


    Social welfare arent giving the rent supplement cheques to the landlords anymore cos there was too much trouble stopping them when the tenant left.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Sorry to hijack this, but out of curiousity what is to be filled in on the top left of the rent1 form? It doesn't say! :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭James Forde


    Neesa wrote: »
    Just to clarify

    Rent Relief is claiming tax back on rent which you have paid over the course of the tax year.

    Sorry for Hi-jacking also, but how do i go about getting this, do i need to inform the landlord?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭PurpleBerry


    bryanjf wrote: »
    Sorry for Hi-jacking also, but how do i go about getting this, do i need to inform the landlord?

    Bryan, to claim Rent Relief you just need to fill in the Rent1 form. It's available from tax offices. Or you can print it from the Revenue website www.revenue.ie/forms/rent1.pdf It's a PDF so you will need Abode to open it.

    You won't need to inform your landlord but you do need his/her name, address and PPS number for the form.

    Py, don't put anything in the box! I'm not sure but I think it's for official purposes, ie a stamp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,029 ✭✭✭shoegirl


    i have being made redundant...i pay 320 a month in rent sharing a house, i dont think my land lord has declared the house for tax and wouold this mean that they wont sign the forms for rent allowance...is there another way around this thanks for any help

    Not without you effectively "declaring" it on his behalf :pac:

    Depending on where you live you may well be over the threshold anyway for the allowance, which in lot of the country is a paltry 70 euros a week. In Dublin it goes up to 98 per week, Cork and the south-east region are in between.

    Unfortunately if you are over the limit even if the landlord is tax compliant you will be refused outright. Some landlords and tenants may declare a lower rent than the real one that is being paid in order to get a partial payment but it does mean you would still have to foot the difference by yourself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 923 ✭✭✭sorella


    We have just successfully claimed rent allowance.

    yes, the landlord has to sign forms.
    Or the agent if you rent through one.

    And you have to declare your own income and prove it, often by bank statements or if on welfare, from them.

    So you may have to pay a small amount.

    The money goes direct into your bank account so you pay the rent as usual

    Please, go and see your Welfare Officer as they will know; take all the paperwork you can with you.

    This is the only way to sort this.

    Blessings and peace.
    shoegirl wrote: »
    Not without you effectively "declaring" it on his behalf :pac:

    Depending on where you live you may well be over the threshold anyway for the allowance, which in lot of the country is a paltry 70 euros a week. In Dublin it goes up to 98 per week, Cork and the south-east region are in between.

    Unfortunately if you are over the limit even if the landlord is tax compliant you will be refused outright. Some landlords and tenants may declare a lower rent than the real one that is being paid in order to get a partial payment but it does mean you would still have to foot the difference by yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 143 ✭✭memeandmark


    can i just go to the community welfare officer and ask him/her about rent supplement from hse or will that still get my landlord in trouble with tax or revenue:confused:


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