Hardcore in Dublin (and no I don't mean Happy)

sneakerfreak

I know Kennedys were doing breakcore and so on.

McGruders had the Dj Producer over.

But where is it to be found now?

Who would like to see a regular Hardcore night?(btw I dont mean 'Bonkers' or any of that happy stuff)

A night to please a wide spectrum of harder dance fans with perhaps some dark Freeform to start with and end with some very hard Gabber from the likes of Angerfist or Noize Suppressor?

Does anyone have any sites supporting Hardcore based here?

jonny68

Hardly anyone here is into modern Hardcore mate, the only Hardcore im in to is original Old Skool Hardcore 1991-1993, proper order,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldskool_rave_hardcore

Executive Steve

he's not talking about your hardcore jonny - he's into dutch hardcore etc


there's no nights pushing that sort of stuff over here really - the only heads who really do tend to push that stuff are generally the free party heads, the dogs on a string crew...


the looks i get when i tell people over in holland that their cutting edge urban music is only really enjoyed by people who live in yurts in roscommon are priceless!

if you're that into it, find some other people who are and see what you can do - frasiers on o connell street is a cheap enough venue to put a night on in, all you need then is a crowd who'll turn up to it..

between the heads who used to go to those ursus crew yokes up in mcgruders and the breakcore scene in dublin you should get a decent enough crowd in if you keep the music varied enough to please enough people - there's a complete absence of any clubs generally pushing extreme agressive music in dublin, i have mates who play all that limewax-y , current value stuff and who also have a good few old gabber records on the likes of mokum and what not..

if you can see it working, put in the time money and effort and go and do it!

Executive Steve

don't think there's any irish hardcore / gabber / industrial forums out there, but a few of the heads who are into that sort of stuff post over on irishdrumandbass.com - you'd probably get more in the way of useful replies than on here - this board is mainly either for people who like to bang on about the asylum back in the day or for commercial dj's who play 21st's, along with a liberal peppering of trance lovers who get laughed at on other less moderated boards...

jonny68

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

he's not talking about your hardcore jonny - he's into dutch hardcore etc


there's no nights pushing that sort of stuff over here really - the only heads who really do tend to push that stuff are generally the free party heads, the dogs on a string crew...


the looks i get when i tell people over in holland that their cutting edge urban music is only really enjoyed by people who live in yurts in roscommon are priceless!

if you're that into it, find some other people who are and see what you can do - frasiers on o connell street is a cheap enough venue to put a night on in, all you need then is a crowd who'll turn up to it..

between the heads who used to go to those ursus crew yokes up in mcgruders and the breakcore scene in dublin you should get a decent enough crowd in if you keep the music varied enough to please enough people - there's a complete absence of any clubs generally pushing extreme agressive music in dublin, i have mates who play all that limewax-y , current value stuff and who also have a good few old gabber records on the likes of mokum and what not..

if you can see it working, put in the time money and effort and go and do it!

Indeed im fully aware of what type of Hardcore this poster was referring to hence my response that hardly anyone in this country are into that sound, i do like some older Hardcore/Gabba but it just got too fast, you cant possibly dance to that music just pogo:D

sneakerfreak

jonny68 wrote: »

Hardly anyone here is into modern Hardcore mate, the only Hardcore im in to is original Old Skool Hardcore 1991-1993, proper order,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldskool_rave_hardcore

aye im familiar with it mate,i like it too

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

he's not talking about your hardcore jonny - he's into dutch hardcore etc


there's no nights pushing that sort of stuff over here really - the only heads who really do tend to push that stuff are generally the free party heads, the dogs on a string crew...


the looks i get when i tell people over in holland that their cutting edge urban music is only really enjoyed by people who live in yurts in roscommon are priceless!

if you're that into it, find some other people who are and see what you can do - frasiers on o connell street is a cheap enough venue to put a night on in, all you need then is a crowd who'll turn up to it..

between the heads who used to go to those ursus crew yokes up in mcgruders and the breakcore scene in dublin you should get a decent enough crowd in if you keep the music varied enough to please enough people - there's a complete absence of any clubs generally pushing extreme agressive music in dublin, i have mates who play all that limewax-y , current value stuff and who also have a good few old gabber records on the likes of mokum and what not..

if you can see it working, put in the time money and effort and go and do it!

yeah thats my thoughts exactly,i did a few trad nights in frasiers before (yes wide range of music im into eh lol) but the upstairs is all gone now and i dont like the basement venue there

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

don't think there's any irish hardcore / gabber / industrial forums out there, but a few of the heads who are into that sort of stuff post over on irishdrumandbass.com - you'd probably get more in the way of useful replies than on here - this board is mainly either for people who like to bang on about the asylum back in the day or for commercial dj's who play 21st's, along with a liberal peppering of trance lovers who get laughed at on other less moderated boards...

cheers mate,also like to hear about the asylum and sides my brother used to go there,i was up north and a bit young,we had kellys and traks and the point inn (frank white owner framed by Gardai) and frankies in raphoe (frank mcbrearty also framed by Gardai,carl cox played there in the early 90s,classic)

jonny68 wrote: »

Indeed im fully aware of what type of Hardcore this poster was referring to hence my response that hardly anyone in this country are into that sound, i do like some older Hardcore/Gabba but it just got too fast, you cant possibly dance to that music just pogo:D

aye oldschool gabber is my biggest love mate,i got a good chunk of mokum on vinyl along with a lot of ruffneck,dwarf and rotterdam records etc

id love to do nights of this kind of stuff but dont think the crowd is there for it so i think i would have to do as suggested above a wide range of hard styles like nu skool gabber (slow) and this speedcore/terror/breakcore stuff (fast)

i actually like some of the terror/speedcore as the beats can be insane but the melodies very trancy

thanks for your posts lads,was expectin a load of anti- hardcore rants,glad to see yous know what gabber is and how diffrent it is to the scooter end of things lol

RaverRo808

We havent really opened our mind to that stuff over here yet mate,wouldnt be my bag at all to be honest,I love the early hardcore rave stuff 91-93,but the new hardcore sounds abit like a jackhammer against a tin pan to me

jonny68

RaverRo808 wrote: »

We havent really opened our mind to that stuff over here yet mate,wouldnt be my bag at all to be honest,I love the early hardcore rave stuff 91-93,but the new hardcore sounds abit like a jackhammer against a tin pan to me

spot on man Irish clubbers need to open their minds a bit more as regards dance music especially Breakbeat style which has never really been popular here.

RaverRo808

jonny68 wrote: »

spot on man Irish clubbers need to open their minds a bit more as regards dance music especially Breakbeat style which has never really been popular here.

Ive always like breakbeat,some of the newer breakbeat is sh*te but I aquired afew new breakbeat tunes there lately and they are rocking

Executive Steve

considering there's no real new music of any merit being made there's loads of breakbeat hardcore in dublin

we've put on several 89-92 hardcore nights in crawdaddy, traffic and the vaults; we've also pushed 92-93 darkcore and jungle

altern-8 are over every few months too it seems

jonny68

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

considering there's no real new music of any merit being made there's loads of breakbeat hardcore in dublin

we've put on several 89-92 hardcore nights in crawdaddy, traffic and the vaults; we've also pushed 92-93 darkcore and jungle

altern-8 are over every few months too it seems

Not true my friend there is plenty of new music being produced;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_Breaks

http://www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=19

jonny68

Jaysus i just noticed that cheesemeister Scooter is actually playing in the RDS in February,shocking :eek:

sneakerfreak

The breakbeat scene seems pretty healthy in Dublin,the harder stuff isnt too popular.

Oldschool hardcore like this-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0b6W-Q4r9c

and this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzi0ednz84w

never became popular in the south at least.It was always far more popular in the north and in Scotland (apart from of course the countries of the main producers of it-The Netherlands,Italy and Germany (and yes I know both tunes in the youtube vids are made by an American and a Scot ).

Im really interested in doing a few nights here,may take a while to work out what is most succesful though.

Lab_Mouse

Gabba never took on here,was in holland in the 90's,came back here,couldnt buy it anywhere(no internet then)its a shame really some of it was a lot better than that diet trance crap they was listening to

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=b5HoRZGokzE

ah..martinna you should never piss of a gabba producer:)

mental theo and charlie lownoise did play the sfx though

sneakerfreak

jonny68 wrote: »

Jaysus i just noticed that cheesemeister Scooter is actually playing in the RDS in February,shocking :eek:

Aye they are doing Jumpstyle or Hardstyle now,they will do whatevers popular.

I remember seeing an interview with them years ago,they used to play bad Depeche Mode style music (I like Depeche Mode,but Im Scooters was a bad version of it lol) and nobody was buying their records.
They said they walked into a rave and in their own words if I remember correctly their exact words were "We said to each other-The kids love this techno music,we should make this music instead!" and so Scooter was born lol.

sneakerfreak

jonny68 wrote: »

Jaysus i just noticed that cheesemeister Scooter is actually playing in the RDS in February,shocking :eek:

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Gabba never took on here,was in holland in the 90's,came back here,couldnt buy it anywhere(no internet then)its a shame really some of it was a lot better than that diet trance crap they was listening to

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=b5HoRZGokzE

ah..martinna you should never piss of a gabba producer:)

mental theo and charlie lownoise did play the sfx though

Yeah I was there in the 90s as well and could never find the tunes I wanted back here in Dublin though you could buy a lot of it up north.

There is some excellent excellent stuff totally overlooked and some nice hardcore trance stuff too like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yBlaiBd6As

Scubadevils

Never heard any of these out or in a club, always wanted to. Can only imagine what it would have been like with a few doves to accompany :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPWtVGilwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQhT1_j8rE

seannash

Felixdhc wrote: »

Never heard any of these out or in a club, always wanted to. Can only imagine what it would have been like with a few doves to accompany :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPWtVGilwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQhT1_j8rE

god i used to have those tracks on a few tapes years ago.was either tizer,paddy fraiser,x ray or one of those intelligence lot

derra

sneakerfreak wrote: »

Does anyone have any sites supporting Hardcore based here?

www.nioldskool.co.uk
There is alot of hardcore,gabber users on that site..
Does be good few events organised.
Worth checking out ..

Scubadevils

seannash wrote: »

god i used to have those tracks on a few tapes years ago.was either tizer,paddy fraiser,x ray or one of those intelligence lot

I still have that Thunderdome X CD, it was my only ever purchase of hardcore, back in about 1995 or so. Had a few tapes alright too, one with Passion on it by Technohead, still love that track actually.

So you planning any hardcore tracks soon Sean?!

Scubadevils

derra wrote: »

www.nioldskool.co.uk
There is alot of hardcore,gabber users on that site..
Does be good few events organised.
Worth checking out ..

Yeah I remember seeing a good bit there alright.. think it was pretty big up North from what I gather?

seannash

Felixdhc wrote: »

I still have that Thunderdome X CD, it was my only ever purchase of hardcore, back in about 1995 or so. Had a few tapes alright too, one with Passion on it by Technohead, still love that track actually.

So you planning any hardcore tracks soon Sean?!

ha ha ha,nah man.i loved it when i was younger and still have some of the albums on my ipod but its more the memories that i like about the music and not the music itself.but never say never.:D

derra

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah I remember seeing a good bit there alright.. think it was pretty big up North from what I gather?

Yeah there seems to be a dedicated bunch into the Gabber on that site, be a good site for the OP to see whats going on North and South for gigs and that ..

jonny68

This is the sort of Hardcore Techno id be into, amazing.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYYo5m8eng

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=WZx7I3HYwuY

Scubadevils

seannash wrote: »

ha ha ha,nah man.i loved it when i was younger and still have some of the albums on my ipod but its more the memories that i like about the music and not the music itself.but never say never.:D

Ah you should for the buzz, something around the 180bpm mark

derra wrote: »

Yeah there seems to be a dedicated bunch into the Gabber on that site, be a good site for the OP to see whats going on North and South for gigs and that ..

Yeah defo a good place for him to look alright, probably nowhere better!

I'd say its pretty fckin mad being somewhere with this stuff being played though, can't imagine the intensity of it... would like to experience alright, one of the few genres I never heard off my nut! :pac:

Scubadevils

jonny68 wrote: »

This is the sort of Hardcore Techno id be into, amazing.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=-KYYo5m8eng

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=WZx7I3HYwuY

Yeah good stuff, love the Carl Cox heavier style alright, had some mixes ages ago... any of these floating about now? Although minus the mc, never did anything for me.

derra

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah defo a good place for him to look alright, probably nowhere better!

I'd say its pretty fckin mad being somewhere with this stuff being played though, can't imagine the intensity of it... would like to experience alright, one of the few genres I never heard off my nut! :pac:

It's a bit too much for my liking, closest i heard to it was Alex Calver in Bray last year playing a schranz set, even that was on the borderline but maybe in the right surroundings like Sensation Black in Holland be a good experience:)
ya ever see this , mad stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58kB6VXK9HE

Scubadevils

Fckin hell, that is some full-on sh*t! Mad fckers still trying to dance to it even at 1000bpm! You'd want about 10 super doves in you and a few speed bombs to keep up with that.

Lab_Mouse

derra wrote: »

It's a bit too much for my liking, closest i heard to it was Alex Calver in Bray last year playing a schranz set, even that was on the borderline but maybe in the right surroundings like Sensation Black in Holland be a good experience:)
ya ever see this , mad stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58kB6VXK9HE

Haha take that you house lovin poof's!:eek::D

Didnt moby havre a tune called 10000bpm somethin similar.Another fave of mine is 99.9 think it was on technohead 1 or possibly one of the early thunderdomes

Scubadevils

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Haha take that you house lovin poof's!:eek::D

Didnt moby havre a tune called 10000bpm somethin similar.Another fave of mine is 99.9 think it was on technohead 1 or possibly one of the early thunderdomes

Yeah Moby had a tune called 'Thousand' - pretty fcked up too! - Heard it live in the Point years ago.

Heres another 99.9, great track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ifoww2I4xo

Edit - having just listened to that 99.9 track again, I must say its a fckin belter!!! Forgot how good it is, the break really takes your breath away and comes back with a bang.

derra

Felixdhc wrote: »

Fckin hell, that is some full-on sh*t! Mad fckers still trying to dance to it even at 1000bpm! You'd want about 10 super doves in you and a few speed bombs to keep up with that.

And the rest :pac:
See the hefty black wan trying to keep up

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Haha take that you house lovin poof's!:eek::D

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah Moby had a tune called 'Thousand' - pretty fcked up too! - Heard it live in the Point year ago.

Heres another 99.9, great track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ifoww2I4xo

Edit - having just listened to that 99.9 track again, I must say its a fckin belter!!! Forgot how good it is, the break really takes your breath away and comes back with a bang.

that is a super track :cool:

With Moby being mentioned there , this is a great live version of 'Feeling so real'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWuLYnUWiWs

Scubadevils

derra wrote: »

And the rest :pac:
See the hefty black wan trying to keep up




that is a super track :cool:

With Moby being mentioned there , this is a great live version of 'Feeling so real'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWuLYnUWiWs

Yeah I noticed the black one alright, mad looking thing - I'd say that was her first night though, probably a skinny bitch now

Excellent stuff, very nice live version alright. He put on a great live show. Think it was about 2001 or so when I saw him in the Point. Lot of respect for Moby I must say.

Lab_Mouse

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah Moby had a tune called 'Thousand' - pretty fcked up too! - Heard it live in the Point years ago.

Heres another 99.9, great track...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ifoww2I4xo

Edit - having just listened to that 99.9 track again, I must say its a fckin belter!!! Forgot how good it is, the break really takes your breath away and comes back with a bang.

thats the mix!SWEET and nasty as f*ck;)

derra

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah I noticed the black one alright, mad looking thing - I'd say that was her first night though, probably a skinny bitch now

sneakerfreak

Felixdhc wrote: »

Never heard any of these out or in a club, always wanted to. Can only imagine what it would have been like with a few doves to accompany :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPWtVGilwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OQhT1_j8rE

it was brilliant

derra wrote: »

www.nioldskool.co.uk
There is alot of hardcore,gabber users on that site..
Does be good few events organised.
Worth checking out ..

Good man,hows yerself anyhow Soogy?

Felixdhc wrote: »

Yeah I remember seeing a good bit there alright.. think it was pretty big up North from what I gather?

90% of what i heard was hardcore,hard trance made up the rest,maybe thats just me

derra wrote: »

Yeah there seems to be a dedicated bunch into the Gabber on that site, be a good site for the OP to see whats going on North and South for gigs and that ..

thanks again,hows yer eyebrows?

Lab_Mouse wrote: »

Haha take that you house lovin poof's!:eek::D

Didnt moby havre a tune called 10000bpm somethin similar.Another fave of mine is 99.9 think it was on technohead 1 or possibly one of the early thunderdomes

99.9 was a Ruffneck tune wasnt it? Ruffneck/Juggernaut was Kerchoven