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Research about the 'historical Jesus'

  • 24-01-2009 11:59am
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    This post will research about the “historical Jesus”. Who was he? Before answering this question it is important to give an introduction to the le-havdil (to differentiate) first century Jew Ribi Yehoshua from Natzrat (hellenized to Nazareth) (the Mashiakh (the Messiah)).

    According to historical scholarship (for example Prof. James H. Charlesworth) he practised Judaism all his life. His followers were called Netzarim (Hellenized to "Nazarenes") – that is Hebrew [it means offshoot (especially from the root or trunk of an olive tree)] and is a name in the Jewish Bible that is used for Mashiakh (Messiah).
    Source: www.netzarim.co.il; click at "glossaries; scroll to "Netzarim"

    During the first century those who practised Judaism were very devoted their religion. Just like King David and all other Jews throughout history they practised Torah (Instruction) – the Instructions of the Creator – with joy! The most prominent university professors in this field Prof. Elisha Qimron , author of the most authoritative treatise on 4Q MMT, demonstrates that all three of the major sects of first century Judaism followed both written and oral Torah.

    Year 7 B.C.E Ribi Yehoshua were born in Bethlehem. His father name was Yoseif and his mothers name was Miriam. His parents were practising Jews.

    The research of world-recognized authorities in this area implies that Ribi Yehoshua from Natzrat was a Pharisee (a Torah-practising Jewish group - who according to 4Q MMT practised both written and oral Torah). As the earliest church historians, most eminent modern university historians, our web site (see link at the bottom) and our Khavruta (Distance Learning) texts confirm, the original teachings of Ribi Yehoshua were not only accepted by most of the Pharisaic Jewish community, he had hoards of Jewish students.

    Anyone educated in this field knows that the only sect of Judaism that had rabbis was the Pharisees. Oxford Historian James Parkes, Bellarmino Bagatti, Prof James H. Charlesworth; all world-recognized authorities in this area leave no doubt that Ribi Yehoshua was a Pharisee, of the school of Hileil - who was also Pharisee. There is no serious dispute about that among scholars in the field. Ribi Yehoshua taught in "synagogues"; which were a strictly Pharisee institution.

    It is not an assumption that Ribi Yehoshua was a Ribi. He is called ‘Ribi Yeshua’ on the Talpiot Tomb to name one thing.

    See the website at the bottom ; “History Museum” (left menu); “Mashiakh”-section (top menu).

    Prof. of Statistics Andrey Feuerverger has demonstrated that, contrary to the mathematically-challenged critics of the Yaaqov ossuary, the chances that the ossuaries in the Talpiot Tomb aren't those of the family of the 1st-century Pharisee Ribi Yehoshua are 1:1600 (Feuerverger, Prof. Andrey – The Final Word, http://projecteuclid.org/aoas).

    Logic dictates that the burden of proof is on the person whom states that Ribi Yehoshua is not a Pharisee.

    Le-havdil, the historical J*esus is an oxymoron. The historical person was named le-havdil (to differentiate) Ribi Yehoshua. This is not the same person as the Christian Jesus.

    If you want to learn about the Historical Ribi Yehoshua, whose followers Orthodox Jews can live with (witness the Netzarim Jews in Ra’anana, Israel, members in good standing in an Orthodox synagogue), you must start with books like Oxford historian James Parkes (The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue) and Who Are The Netzarim? (publ. www.schuellerhouse.com) by Israeli Orthodox Jew, Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David.

    Finding the historical Jew, who was a Pharisee Ribi and following him brings you into Torah, which gives you a rich and meaningful life here on earth and great rewards in life after death (“heaven”)!

    Geir Toshav, the only legitimate Netzarim, which is in Ra’anana in Israel (www.netzarim.co.il) who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – in [meta-]Orthodox Judaism


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    There is another possibility. Jesus could have been a Pharisee, but then given knowledge of them on the inside during his 3 year ministry exposed them for who they were to the public.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


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    If you want to learn about the Historical Ribi Yehoshua, whose followers Orthodox Jews can live with (witness the Netzarim Jews in Ra’anana, Israel, members in good standing in an Orthodox synagogue), you must start with books like Oxford historian James Parkes (The Conflict of the Church and the Synagogue) and Who Are The Netzarim? (publ. www.schuellerhouse.com) by Israeli Orthodox Jew, Paqid Yirmeyahu Ben-David.

    The link also provides a nice recipe for a kosher Pasta Carbonara.:D

    Your reference to the legitimacy of a specific Netzarim immediately raises questions for me. As to what is the purpose of this investigation? Does this particular Netzarim have anything to do with Hashomer Hatzair? (Zionist Youth Movement).

    Another question I have is why does the OP appear verbatim as on so many other Fora through-out the internet?

    http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=38822

    https://www.worshiptogether.com/community/Discussion.aspx?dact=display_topic&topic_post_id=1029162&room_id=37

    etc.

    Doing a bit of missionary work are we?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Indeed yes.
    Thanks studiorat for your insight.
    User is now banned....permanently for spamming his/her religion.


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