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Squeaky Clutch

  • 23-01-2009 1:21pm
    #1
    eden_my_ass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭


    Looking for some sort of help here cause my head is wrecked by the noise of my clutch lately. Its not a major fault, but theres a horrible squeak everytime I press the pedal in, my guess is its where some linkage passes through a rubber panel (Renault Clio btw)...I initially tried greasing it (impossible area to get to) and that did little good, so thinking its metal against rubber I opted to go the opposite way and completely dry it, which I think helped for a while but its back again. It can be an awful head wrecker and I'd love if someone had a good recommendation for what to do. I'll bring it up at the next service but I've a feeling a mechanic won't be too interested since nothings actually wrong!


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  • #2
    alias no.9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    It's probably the thrust bearing on the way out. When you're replacing this, you may as well get the whole thing replaced because the plate won't be far behind and there'll be very little difference in labour costs.


  • #3
    Sleipnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭Sleipnir


    I had this a few months ago and the dealer replaced the clutch slave cylinder. If that's what it turns out to be, you wouldn't need the whole clutch replaced.


  • #4
    eden_my_ass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭eden_my_ass


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    It's probably the thrust bearing on the way out. When you're replacing this, you may as well get the whole thing replaced because the plate won't be far behind and there'll be very little difference in labour costs.

    So you think its more substantial than just a creak...I must go google some clutch diagrams and have a better look then, its coming up to a big 72k service so wouldn't be unusual for the clutch to be going but it honestly feels fine otherwise, no problems changing, no slipping...nothing odd


  • #5
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Change the clutch cable. What happens though is that as the clutch wears, the force to operate it increases dramatically, especially when it is nearing end of life, so if you replaced the cable, the noise will eventually come back as this is as sign that the clutch is wearing down (clutch linings), which causes the force required to operate the pressure plate to increase (usually causes a heavier clutch pedal).

    It's not the thrust/release bearing as suggested above. This problem is only happening when operating the clutch. If it was the clutch release/thrust bearing, it would be happening when you had your foot on the clutch, not just when engaging the clutch.


  • #6
    eden_my_ass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭eden_my_ass


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    Change the clutch cable. What happens though is that as the clutch wears, the force to operate it increases dramatically, especially when it is nearing end of life, so if you replaced the cable, the noise will eventually come back as this is as sign that the clutch is wearing down (clutch linings), which causes the force required to operate the pressure plate to increase (usually causes a heavier clutch pedal).

    It's not the thrust/release bearing as suggested above. This problem is only happening when operating the clutch. If it was the clutch release/thrust bearing, it would be happening when you had your foot on the clutch, not just when engaging the clutch.

    Yeah I also read the release bearing would not make noise when the engine is off, my noise is the same engine off and on. I found one suggestion about a ball joint needed lubricating where the pedal meets the connections to the clutch, it would be loooovely if it was something. I'll keep all advice in mind though, hate going to a mechanic unawares!


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  • #7
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    I've heard of this before & it happened in my car recently - a well aimed squirt of a silicon oil can do the trick


  • #8
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    eden_my_ass wrote: »
    Yeah I also read the release bearing would not make noise when the engine is off, my noise is the same engine off and on. I found one suggestion about a ball joint needed lubricating where the pedal meets the connections to the clutch, it would be loooovely if it was something. I'll keep all advice in mind though, hate going to a mechanic unawares!

    Yeah there is an automatic adjuster down there as well, best thing to try is a can of WD 40 and get a mist of this stuff up there to see if it resolves the issue for you on a short term basis, but I think the root cause of the problem is your clutch getting heavier as it wears down.


  • #9
    DaMonk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 200 ✭✭DaMonk


    ya this happened mine. Get in underneath and cover it in wd40 while pressing the pedal repeatedly. Did the job on mine no problem, replacing the clutch is a bit extreme!


  • #10
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    DaMonk wrote: »
    ya this happened mine. Get in underneath and cover it in wd40 while pressing the pedal repeatedly. Did the job on mine no problem, replacing the clutch is a bit extreme!

    I know it sounds extreme but it is the root cause of the problem. I'd replace the cable before I'd go at the clutch...


  • #11
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    I know it sounds extreme but it is the root cause of the problem. I'd replace the cable before I'd go at the clutch...

    Silly boy! It happened to my car shortly after I had the clutch replaced. The squeak was coming from a rubber bushing on the link arm of the pedal which was rubbing, a squirt of silicon oil & its all gone.

    OP, start with the simple solution & if it doesn't work, try the more complicated and expensive solutions...

    Some people here would have you believe that the best solution is to scrap the car & buy an new one...


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  • #12
    eden_my_ass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭eden_my_ass


    Thanks for all the replies, to be fair its not always easy to diagnose from a distance so I appreciate the small and the big solutions, but as suggested I will start as small as possible and work up from there! Plenty of ideas anyway!


  • #13
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Keep us informed :)


  • #14
    NewApproach
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭NewApproach


    I have the same thing in my car from time to time, yet it only has 18k miles...

    Not sure what it is but the mechanics of the clutch feel fine, it is just this squeak sometimes.


  • #15
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Bluefoam wrote: »

    Some people here would have you believe that the best solution is to scrap the car & buy an new one...

    And some people here have experience of these problems and can offer advice consistent with experience that you don't have so get over yourself. Just because you have a problem with your car, it doesn't mean the same problem exists with the OP's car. I've stated an opinion that typically when you have this problem, the clutch is nearing end of life. I haven't seen the car so I can't fully diagnose the issue.


  • #16
    Bluefoam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭Bluefoam


    Darragh29 wrote: »
    I've stated an opinion that typically when you have this problem, the clutch is nearing end of life. I haven't seen the car so I can't fully diagnose the issue.

    No offence, but you did not qualify your advice & your comments seemed to me to suggest that you were adamant you knew what the problem was. I would consider it reckless to take advice like that without exploring the simple alternatives.

    In the long run you may be right, but I believe the OP will find a simple solution...

    Lets not make this about who is right or wrong - we have all offered OP some ideas to explore...


  • #17
    John Mason
    Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    my squeak when i am moving up the gears. i brought to the garage and they

    said it was nothing, just stick a bit of WD40 on it


  • #18
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Bluefoam wrote: »
    No offence, but you did not qualify your advice & your comments seemed to me to suggest that you were adamant you knew what the problem was. I would consider it reckless to take advice like that without exploring the simple alternatives.

    In the long run you may be right, but I believe the OP will find a simple solution...

    Lets not make this about who is right or wrong - we have all offered OP some ideas to explore...

    It's obviously qualified advice when I'm sitting here at a pc and the car is in another county.


  • #19
    eden_my_ass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 594 ✭✭✭eden_my_ass


    Just to follow up, I stopped off at a local fast service company and asked them to have a look (awkward place to be looking at when you're not fully informed). He tried oil/silicone spray in two places and although it had no immediate effect the next day I was completely noise free. Alas....the day following that it was back! :) Bloody noisey nightmare but it at least confirms its not too serious n'es pas?

    I'm gonna try again myself with the silicone spray, I've an awful feeling its a linkage rubbing against a rubber shield that it goes through (as suggested before I think) so I dunno how effective lubricating that is...tempted to cut it slightly, since it seems to only act as a dust cover from the footwell. Anyway, just thought I'd update, I'm slowly going insane but at least I don't think I need a clutch replacement!


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