Peugeot 206 1.1 vs 1.4

Thumpette · 22-01-2009 10:43am #1

Hi All, I am looking into getting a 2nd hand car at the mo and am leaning towards Peugeot 206s. I am hoping to get around 2002 for around 3kish. I see the engine size seems to be mostly 1.1 with the odd 1.4. I would prefer in general to go for the 1.4 as I will be doing a fair bit of commuting with it as well as regular enough cross country trips. I drove a 1ltr Polo though for long enough- so I’m not overly bothered if it is a 1.1. I was just wondering if there are any particular engine faults or advice for against the 1.4 engine tpe in this car?

Thanks

Thumpette · 23-01-2009 9:25am

Sorry to bump this one guys, I dont know anyone else with the collective expertise of the Boards motorers!

Would anyone have any recommendations or known issues on 1.4s vs 1.1s in the 206... Thanks

Berty · 23-01-2009 9:27am

There is no major difference between a 1.1 or 1.4 litre with respect to faults so as you are taking the next step in your car career then you should go to the 1.4

I started at a 998c and worked my way up to 1.9 Turbo diesel. The only way is forward.

I had a 1.2 PUG 206 and had a 1.4 PUG diesel.

Go for a bigger engine, you will thank yourself later.

bazz26 · 23-01-2009 9:37am

The extra bit of poke in the 1.4 litre will make overtaking alot easier than in the 1.1 litre. MPG will not probably that much worse as the 1.4 litre engine will have less strain on it than the 1.1 litre.

Would you consider the bigger 307? Would be a more comfortable and spacious cruiser on long commutes than the 206.

I'm sure you would buy this for less than €4k given the current climate:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1293589

Thumpette · 23-01-2009 10:00am

Wow- thats lovely! definately worth considering. You dont see as many of these around- are they a decent car?

Thumpette · 23-01-2009 10:04am

One silly question about that one- What does 'onboard computer' mean on a car? Never understood this!

cashmni1 · 23-01-2009 11:13am

Thumpette wrote: »

One silly question about that one- What does 'onboard computer' mean on a car? Never understood this!

The on board computer (OBC) has a digital read out on the dashboard that tells you your mpg, etc. So it calculates your current mpg, tells you how much you have left in the tank and how many miles to the next fill and simple stuff like that. The car management is a different kettle of fish. but the OBC is a simple digital read ut on the dash.
The 206 is a a slug in the 1.1 giuise. Go for the 1.4.
307 is a different car altogether. A step up.

Eoin · 23-01-2009 11:14am

It normally means things like an estimate of how many miles you have left in your tank, your MPG and stuff like that.

If you're not doing mostly city driving, then I'd go for the 1.4 206 over the 1.1.

Berty · 23-01-2009 11:16am

Thumpette wrote: »

Wow- thats lovely! definately worth considering. You dont see as many of these around- are they a decent car?

These are actually more common that 206's in my opinion.

My GF who loved 206's kept pointing at them saying "I really want one of those" when months later I asked "when did you change from a 206 to a 307?"

The problem for her was they are very similar if a little bigger.

I had a 307 for a few days in France loaded with extras. It was a pleasure to drive.

EPM · 23-01-2009 11:21am

That 307 looks like very decent value but aren't they known for electrical faults? I thought they had a bad enough rep as a result

Even though saying that, at 6 years old you would expect anything major to be well and truely sorted. Plus that particular one is a higher spec model with some nice extras such as drivers arm rest and climate controlled air con.

Berty · 23-01-2009 11:47am

Thumpette wrote: »

Wow- thats lovely! definately worth considering. You dont see as many of these around- are they a decent car?

307's are much more expensive.

Do a search on

http://www.cbg.ie

or

http://www.autotrader.ie

http://www.carzone.ie

You will save money by haggling with dealers but how about this

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Peugeot/206/CC-hard-/200902191399250/advert

Beautiful cars.

Eoin · 23-01-2009 11:54am

I think for a design that came out in 98, they have aged very well. They also enjoyed excellent resale value (probably class topping resale value) in the first few years. I bought mine new in 01, and lost less than 2K on it over two years, which isn't too shabby.

bazz26 · 23-01-2009 12:12pm

The only real problem with the 206 is the driving position. Alot of people find the pedals too close to each other which can make it awkward to drive.

307 can suffer from electrical gremlins but then again so can a 206.

Berty · 23-01-2009 12:14pm

bazz26 wrote: »

307 can suffer from electrical gremlins but then again so can a 206.

The only problem I know of with the 206 is the rear brakelights which can be permanently on because of a switch in the passenger foot well.

Drummerboy08 · 23-01-2009 12:15pm

The only difference between the 1.1 and 1.4 will be

A - Your Insurance

B - You Road tax

Other than that theres very little difference.

Drummerboy08 · 23-01-2009 12:26pm

Just thinking too -
The 206 is commonly used as a first car. Great car for a young person starting out. For this reason, i would consider a 1.1 to be more desireable than the 1.4. For many people, there would be a big jump in insurance for the 1.4, so the 1.1 seems to be the most popular version. If insurance isnt an issue, then go for the 1.4, but bear in mind, when you go to sell it, it MIGHT not be worth as much to someone as a 1.1 version.

Eoin · 23-01-2009 12:44pm

Drummerboy08 wrote: »

Just thinking too -
The 206 is commonly used as a first car. Great car for a young person starting out. For this reason, i would consider a 1.1 to be more desireable than the 1.4. For many people, there would be a big jump in insurance for the 1.4, so the 1.1 seems to be the most popular version. If insurance isnt an issue, then go for the 1.4, but bear in mind, when you go to sell it, it MIGHT not be worth as much to someone as a 1.1 version.

Yes - this is a good point, though the OP said there are regular enough cross country drives. While I think the 1.1 is absolutely fine for city driving, it would be a bit too gutless for this.

RentDayBlues · 23-01-2009 1:13pm

I have a 206 1.1 and while its a fine car for getting around, overtaking and getting up speed is slow! I drive my OH's car regularly and its a 1.4, much better all round

Capital Slow · 23-01-2009 1:36pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Would you consider the bigger 307? Would be a more comfortable and spacious cruiser on long commutes than the 206.

I'm sure you would buy this for less than €4k given the current climate:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=1293589

Is the light bub in the driver side head lump blown already:D?

A 206 or 307 in the night = motor bike

bazz26 · 23-01-2009 2:11pm

Capital Slow wrote: »

Is the light bub in the driver side head lump blown already:D?

A 206 or 307 in the night = motor bike

Do headlamp bulbs not go in other makes of cars too?

L-M · 23-01-2009 2:19pm

bazz26 wrote: »

Do headlamp bulbs not go in other makes of cars too?

Not in cars other than French ones anyway.

Eoin · 23-01-2009 2:20pm

Limerick man wrote: »

Not in cars other than French ones anyway.

You're not being serious, right?

L-M · 23-01-2009 2:22pm

eoin wrote: »

You're not being serious, right?

:eek:
LOL! No, i'm not! A hint of minty sarcasm

Eoin · 23-01-2009 2:32pm

Sorry Limerick-man - you can never be too sure on this forum!

Capital Slow · 24-01-2009 1:21am

bazz26 wrote: »

Do headlamp bulbs not go in other makes of cars too?

Not as frequent as the 206 or 307.

bazz26 · 24-01-2009 1:23am

Capital Slow wrote: »

Not as frequent as the 206 or 307.

The MkIV Golf comes to mind. Eats rear light bulbs.

Capital Slow · 24-01-2009 1:32am

bazz26 wrote: »

The MkIV Golf comes to mind. Eats rear light bulbs.

Better to get rear-ended than a front impact:rolleyes:

Thumpette · 26-01-2009 10:06am

Aw- that 307 went up from 4250 last week to 4995 now! Boo.

I was in Donegal at the weekend and am now under severe pressure from my kins people to go down the popular Toyota route. I took an Avensis for a test drive and while both the car and the engine are too big for me at the moment, it definately did make me think a Toyota might be a good option. Not the prettiest cars in the world, but if they are reliable and easy enough to run I'm happy!

My real concern now in buying a car in Dublin is that I dont know anyone who could look at it to check for signs of bother. Would people recommend getting cars checked by an independant mechanic before buying- even for the low budget <4k I'm talking. I was considering this type of thing....

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Toyota/Corolla/(NCT-02-/200902191425269/advert

Just found out at the weekend that my BFs new (well 2003) focus has been crashed in the past and the whole drivers wing has been replaced. My sisters boyfriend spotted it right away but we would have never ever seen it. This was buying from a garage and everything. It's kinda shattered whatever trust I would have had in honesty in 2nd hand car sales!:mad:

Berty · 26-01-2009 10:17am

Im sorry. The 307 went up in price. Name & Shame that garage as prices cannot go up in this climate. I guess the seller is putting up the price expecting to be offered half nothing for it but still this is bad practice putting the price up. You should have told the seller that they have lost the sale on account of their shady pricing.

The Toyota Corolla. Im sorry but that is a hideous car, always has and always will be. Toyota are reliable but is that what you really want?

Looking for a nice sporty 206 - 307 then to an old mans car is a big leap. Remeber you will be driving it not your family. The seller of the toyota has even gone so far as to fill the ad by saying it has head rests and folding rear seats, thats hardly a bonus.

I will throw in a cautious "horses for courses" here because surely somebody will point out what I dont like somebody else might but I doubt anybody can find that car good looking.

I just posted this on another thread.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Focus/1.6-COLL/200840190233416/advert

How about a focus? 2005 better looking, holds its value and is a good realiable engine

Thumpette · 26-01-2009 10:43am

I definately will still look at the 307, if i did take it I wouldnt be paying near the original figure- never mind the new hiked up number. I agree that it is crazy to up prices in the current market.

As for the Corolla, I really dont think they are that bad. Agree that is is hilarious to list head rests as a feature- but a huge majority of the ads I have looked at do this!

The focus is lovely- I'd go for it in a second, but my limit is 4k, and I cant imagine an 05 Focus being anything less than 8 TBH. Thanks for the reply tho

seamus · 26-01-2009 10:56am

bazz26 wrote: »

The only real problem with the 206 is the driving position. Alot of people find the pedals too close to each other which can make it awkward to drive.

It's something you get used to. My fiance has trouble driving my 206 because when she's changing pedals, she physically lifts her feet and places them down on the pedal which obviously results in a couple of mis-steps while driving. However, I've gotten used to not lifting my feet at all and just pivoting on my heel. It's a pain to drive for 2 days, but then you get used to it. Having a pivoting foot however, absolutely destroys your mats.

I've a 1.1 206 and it's comfortable for long-distance driving, but I can see how it would become irritating if you were doing it all the time. It just doesn't have the power behind it to overtake swiftly, so if you're behind someone doing 70km/h in a 100km/h zone, you can be a long time waiting for enough of a gap in the traffic to get up to speed and overtake. A 1.4 engine would feel a good deal more sporty and spritely. It might be a bit iffy on tight bends thought, a tad too overpowered.

Peugeot 206 1.1 vs 1.4

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