Trivium thread

cianl1

Didn't see this in the main thread lists so I decided to start it up myself.

I love Trivium. Corny statement yes, but the truth sounds corny sometimes.

Travis Smith is one of the most amazing drummers in history. Cory shreads like a beast and Matt is the creative genius that brought them all together. Couple that with a heavy and fast baseline from Paolo and you got yourself a nice little track to dance along to, or get whiplash from headbanging so much:).

Matt Heafy is a legend as far as I'm concerned. He writes the riffs so heavy and awesome and then it'll come to the melodic softer parts and it's just beautiful, like.

Ascendancy is an utter materpiece and Ember to Inferno is one of the most awesome debuts I've ever heard.

More later...

brendansmith

I only know 1 song by them which i had on my ipod which was 'shotgun wound to the head of trepida' (i think thats right)

I love it, the solos, the riffs, the vocals, but im afraid almost to get any more of their stuff as i reckon i could get very childlike and embarrassing.......well that and i kinda forgot about them there too.

Must check out more of their stuff

Motley Crue

cianl1 wrote: »

Didn't see this in the main thread lists so I decided to start it up myself....

You didn't see one because I would imagine that most people in a Rock and Metal thread wouldn't want one. If Trivium are the future of Metal then I'm jumping off the train before Conductor Ulrich comes to make sure we are all paying for our tickets.

cianl1 wrote: »

I love Trivium. Corny statement yes...

At one point Trivium played in Dublin about 6 times in 18 months (2 sets of Ambassador 2 night dates as headliners, an Iron Maiden support and I believe a single night again in support to someone at the Ambassador) and I was witness to all those gigs. They're not too bad live but I wouldn't pay for an album because they're not the studio band. I might illegally download one imo

cianl1 wrote: »

Matt Heafy is a legend as far as I'm concerned...

You are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. Matt Heafy is a prat. He once told fans at a Machine Head concert that his band represented the old school, which ticked Robb Flynn off so much, he shouted at a kid who was giving him abuse (yes, thats right, some 12yr old at a Machine Head gig with Trivium in support was abusing Rob Flynn!) that the old school didn't start with Trivium....it was quite classic, I have the bootleg somewhere. I just think some of Trivium's fans have this idea that they have restarted something in the Metal genre and I don't agree, they're just another average band.

senordingdong

I thought they were ok, a guilty little pleasure you could even call them. But yer mans vocals started to grind after a while, but the riffs and solos were top quality. Drumming wasn't half bad either.

I picked up Ascendancy for about €15 and I wasn't dissapointed.
Middle of the road metal but good nonetheless.

Then all of this crazy touring started, I saw them once during that six show period and I thought they were awful. It felt like they had been exposed as an over-produced studio only band. Then stories started circulating about ego trips they were all having, followed by a touring schedule that would give Metalllica or RHCP a run for their money.

I gave a listen to The Crusade, and it was so bad that I didn't even put it on my ipod.
It really was like the nose dived a turd onto a cd, and I can only imagine in their arrogance, expected the world to lap it up.
I mean, everyone has heard their song The Anthem (we are the fire), and I'm sure everyone cringed when they did.

nyarlothothep

Its OC metal but I like it, especially yee-aaah yee-aaah ye-aaawwwrrrhhh

Pyr0

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Its OC metal but I like it, especially yee-aaah yee-aaah ye-aaawwwrrrhhh

Hahaha !

They have one or two alright songs, just can't stand the hetfield like vocals and the massive egos.

senordingdong

What's OC metal?

Moojuice

I think Ascendency is awesome, the res tof their stuff is not great, nothing special. I thought Ascendency had some great moments on it.

Malice

senordingdong wrote: »

What's OC metal?

I was about to ask the same question. Anyone know what it is?

As for Trivium, I was at Download 2005 where they were the first band to play on the Saturday. I was quite impressed with the energy of their performance considering it was 11:30am and I was very hungover. When I got Ascendancy I quite liked it. Their recent releases haven't done it for me though and I saw them in concert a couple of years ago in Dublin and they really seemed like they were plodding along, going through the motions.

senordingdong wrote:

I mean, everyone has heard their song The Anthem (we are the fire), and I'm sure everyone cringed when they did.

I certainly did . Maybe they peaked too early?

GLaDOS

senordingdong wrote: »

What's OC metal?

Old school metal?

RHRN

I went to see them on the first night of the Crusade tour. Definitely the most disappointing album so far. They only played the Rising (the only song I really liked) and Anthem (lolno). Shogun was a good return to a good Trivium though (god that sounds stupid...)

nyarlothothep

Orange County metal ie the type of metal that characters in the OC would listen to, if they were to listen to metal

rainbow kirby

Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno were quite enjoyable at the time, but I'm not really into any of their other stuff.

Dante

rainbow kirby wrote: »

Ascendancy and Ember To Inferno were quite enjoyable at the time, but I'm not really into any of their other stuff.

I completely agree

Ember to Inferno = Class
Ascendancy = Class
The Crusade = ****
Shogun = **** but not as bad as The Crusade.

cianl1

Nah I kinda disagree...slightly.

I do get where you're coming from, when I first got it didn't think it was anything special, but it started growing on me. Still no where near the quality of the first two though, no chance.

Fad

I dunno, I quite like them, went off them a good bit a while back, but i quite like them.

They were the first band I ever went to see, so they'll always have that, damn good gig too.

cianl1

I was actually referring to the album, if you look at the first post you'd see my stance on the band themselves.

Twilightning

I saw one of those interpretation videos of their song 'Pull Harder on the Strings of your Martyr' or whatever the hell it was called. It was god awful. Can't believe they're allowed pollute the airwaves with tripe like that.

cianl1

I do love a bit of debate.:rolleyes:

Malice

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Old school metal?

Maybe it's Over Clocked Metal?

ForTheLoveOf_Fi

trivium. im quite un decided. ascendency was amazing, i picked up the album cheap and was very pleased. i love songs 'dying in your arms' and 'pull harder..'. but wen 'anthem(we are the fire)' came out it was a different thing altoggether! the crusade was so bad! while i admire them for pushing the boundries and trying new things, it hardly paid off. i know there newer stuff now but i cannot comment as i have not heard it first hand.

lord lucan

seen them at the ambassador a few years ago,all the kids i work with were raving about them. tbh they were good live but to my ears they would be better as a metallica/maiden cover band(both bands they've apparently been influenced by).

got a loan of that "pull harder ......." album and it didn't do anything for me.

i'd call them a mickey mouse band(they're from orlando i believe):D

Max Power1

saw them in the ambassador a while back.. apart from the crusade (which was rubbish) they arent that bad

Snake Pliisken

Max Power1 wrote: »

saw them in the ambassador a while back.. apart from the crusade (which was rubbish) they arent that bad

They're in your favourites list in the other thread....


The Crusade was them trying way to hard, it just didnt work.
I still like their other albums but Matt is no lyricist, Ember... has some good lyrics on it but the rest is uninspired tripe, only made more obvious when he doesn't scream.


Two of my fave guitarists in the biz though, Travis needs to learn how to play live, goes way ahead of himself sometimes.

Mattallica

Motley Crue wrote: »

You didn't see one because I would imagine that most people in a Rock and Metal thread wouldn't want one. If Trivium are the future of Metal then I'm jumping off the train before Conductor Ulrich comes to make sure we are all paying for our tickets.



At one point Trivium played in Dublin about 6 times in 18 months (2 sets of Ambassador 2 night dates as headliners, an Iron Maiden support and I believe a single night again in support to someone at the Ambassador) and I was witness to all those gigs. They're not too bad live but I wouldn't pay for an album because they're not the studio band. I might illegally download one imo



You are entitled to your opinion but you are wrong. Matt Heafy is a prat. He once told fans at a Machine Head concert that his band represented the old school, which ticked Robb Flynn off so much, he shouted at a kid who was giving him abuse (yes, thats right, some 12yr old at a Machine Head gig with Trivium in support was abusing Rob Flynn!) that the old school didn't start with Trivium....it was quite classic, I have the bootleg somewhere. I just think some of Trivium's fans have this idea that they have restarted something in the Metal genre and I don't agree, they're just another average band.

It's kinda retarded to say that you're entitled to you're opinion. but you're wrong, because then it's not an opinion... ****ing idiot! And yes, i know the post was ages ago, but your retardedness seems to stand the test of time

Malice

Mattallica wrote: »

It's kinda retarded to say that you're entitled to you're opinion. but you're wrong, because then it's not an opinion... ****ing idiot! And yes, i know the post was ages ago, but your retardedness seems to stand the test of time

I'm not sure why you bothered to register just to abuse a poster over something they wrote over a year and a half ago. Please be aware that per the charter, personal attacks are not allowed. The general guideline on Boards is to attack the post, not the poster.

Mattallica

Malice_ wrote: »

I'm not sure why you bothered to register just to abuse a poster over something they wrote over a year and a half ago. Please be aware that per the charter, personal attacks are not allowed. The general guideline on Boards is to attack the post, not the poster.

Sorry bout that!

GrizzlyMan

Trivium :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

DrumSteve

actually i thought shogun was an excellent album

Max Power1

Max Power1 wrote: »

saw them in the ambassador a while back.. apart from the crusade (which was rubbish) they arent that bad

This was my opinion a year and a half ago, and Im standing by that.

Malice

I still want to know what OC metal is!

fluke

Yeah Shogun is pretty solid!

The we are the fire video is good for an oul chuckle!

As for OC metal I dunno. I think some people just create a genre on the spot.

waltersobchak

Malice_ wrote: »

I still want to know what OC metal is!

I think is Orange County Metal. As in metal for the OC (tv show) style posers

Motley Crue

cianl1 wrote: »

Travis Smith is one of the most amazing drummers in history.

I prefer Nick to be honest, especially from this time in Maruta

Why was Travis fired anyway?

Mattallica wrote: »

It's kinda retarded to say that you're entitled to you're opinion. but you're wrong, because then it's not an opinion... ****ing idiot! And yes, i know the post was ages ago, but your retardedness seems to stand the test of time

Wow, I don't even remember saying this...having said, reading it back, I agree with what I said. I seen Trivium so many times and they never got any better. I like their new drummer but their Sepultura cover was useless.....

Actually, I can't think of a single good thing about this band - and the fact their fans would abuse Rob Flynn, Jesus....

jack presley

There are two things in Metal in recent years that never fail to make me chuckle, one is Avenged Sevenfold's song 'Dear God' and the other is the facial expressions of the trivium singer in the video for the 'Pull harder on the strings' song. He's trying to be all mean and angry but ends up looking the total opposite

ride-the-spiral

Trivium are great to listen to, but look at they just annoy me.

I quite like their new drummer, the addition of blast beats is really cool in songs like Pillar of Serpents.

Hoping the new album will be good, I thought Shogun was amazing when it came out.

DrumSteve

Motley Crue wrote: »

Why was Travis fired anyway?

As far as i was aware he was having back problems. though i have also heard he wasn't pulling his weight musically either.

Motley Crue

DrumSteve wrote: »

As far as i was aware he was having back problems. though i have also heard he wasn't pulling his weight musically either.

Well, let's hope for the sake of the readers of Metal Hammer, he continues with his career....after all, they did give him an award for being "Best Drummer in the Universe" - that's quite the accolade

Malice

Motley Crue wrote: »

Well, let's hope for the sake of the readers of Metal Hammer, he continues with his career....after all, they did give him an award for being "Best Drummer in the Universe" - that's quite the accolade

Surely that was a joke that got taken a bit too far? He's not a bad drummer but he wouldn't even be in my top twenty.

Motley Crue

Malice_ wrote: »

Surely that was a joke that got taken a bit too far? He's not a bad drummer but he wouldn't even be in my top twenty.

You'll have to pardon me, I was being massively sarcastic, and yes I also presume that's a joke....they probably gave it to him since Igor retired that year

Malice

Motley Crue wrote: »

You'll have to pardon me, I was being massively sarcastic, and yes I also presume that's a joke....they probably gave it to him since Igor retired that year

I didn't think you were serious in fairness so no, you're not getting pardoned .

I haven't read Metal Hammer in years. Are its readers really that clueless that they'd vote for him as the best drummer in the universe?

Motley Crue

Malice_ wrote: »

I haven't read Metal Hammer in years. Are its readers really that clueless that they'd vote for him as the best drummer in the universe?

Metal Hammer holds the awards called the Golden Gods, and that's where these "honours" are given out

The awards rarely recognize talent and rising stars in the UK Metal Industry as they claim, and seem to simply latch on to the bands that have given the magazine the most press

Iron Maiden for example, have been nominated every year since it's inception, that's 10 Nominations and 5 Wins - Best Drummer, Best UK Band twice, Best Icon and a Golden God (lifetime achievement award)

From year to year the awards take different titles and meanings and nobody massively unusual has either won an award or been nominated (except possibly Bring Me To The Horizon)...there's no shock, it's just a PR thing

Every year Metallica also get nominated for best live act

Metal Hammer also don't listen to ANYTHING their readers, or the fans in attendance, have to say at these ceremonies. In 2007 Bullet For My Valentine were booed off stage while performing at the event - this year they actually won the award as the Best UK Act on the sole basis of their triumphant return at Download

I love Trivium. But my music taste is '****' by most people's standards - like I give a ****! :rolleyes: I've been to see them twice, would've gone again if they'd gotten an Irish tour date last spring.
Are you on TrivÉire by any chance? Maybe I know you? Though I haven't touched that forum in a while.

DrumSteve

Motley Crue wrote: »

Well, let's hope for the sake of the readers of Metal Hammer, he continues with his career....after all, they did give him an award for being "Best Drummer in the Universe" - that's quite the accolade

Travis is a good drummer that is true.

but to state he is better than, or even in the league as the likes of JoJo Mayer or Bernard Purdie or Danny Carey or Mike Mangini or Mike Portnoy... is ludicrous.

Motley Crue

DrumSteve wrote: »

Travis is a good drummer that is true.

but to state he is better than, or even in the league as the likes of JoJo Mayer or Bernard Purdie or Danny Carey or Mike Mangini or Mike Portnoy... is ludicrous.

I know, I think Metal Hammer need some help choosing the name for these awards and giving them to the right people

saw them twice.
once the night after a nevermore gig a few years back,
once in cork, (wouldnt travel again to see them )
both times thought they had good energy but not really my cup of tea tbh.

the Strange Mountain Song is a classic all the same :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNLDLyeepVs