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Punk question

  • 21-01-2009 2:44pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭


    punk has always confused. is it dying or is it coming back or hs it bigger than ever ???? i mean this in terms of the amount of people who are big punk fans


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    It never went anywhere. It just disappeared from the main stream's radar. There're gigs most weeks with an average of 80+ attendees.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭lurrrvs2sp00ge


    i see so it was mainstream and then the majority of people just stoped tuning in, plus if were talking about punk and not stuff like green day, i cant really think of any huge punk band that like everybody knows


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭hobochris


    i see so it was mainstream and then the majority of people just stoped tuning in, plus if were talking about punk and not stuff like green day, i cant really think of any huge punk band that like everybody knows
    nofx?rancid?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭OLP


    Except NOFX and Rancid are ****e. I'd say the biggest punk band I can think of in the world right now that I like would probably be The Casualties or The Restarts or someone like that maybe, I dunno. If you really wanna find out about some good punk come to one of these gigs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    i see so it was mainstream and then the majority of people just stoped tuning in

    Not quite... The mainstream media has a habit of identifying anything it sees as a threat (e.g. a musical movement that moves in direct opposition to the mainstream) and appropriating it as its own, flooding the market with radio-friendly, diluted versions of it's original self and thus diminishing the mystery and pull of the counter culture. Once this is done and the underground counter-culture is then seen as about as alternative as a pair of M&S socks, the mainstream doesn't have any direct opposition to it, as it doesn't pull too much away from their market...

    With regards to punk in recent years, the punk scene in places like California in the early 90's was seen to be thriving so the mainstream record companies flooded the market with bands like Green Day, Blink182, The Offspring, New Found Glory etc. What followed was a trend that lasted a couple of years in the mainstream and was then followed by disillusionment due to over-exposure, thus relieving the pressure on major record companies to deviate from their better selling artists. Punk sinks back to obscurity and anyone unfamiliar with anything beyond MTV goes "Punk's dead again".

    Finit.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    A few very good gigs on this week. Check Moutpiece/Infinite Shurikens/Complan in the tap on north king street (behind the four courts) on Friday. It's €5 in. Then on Saturday, The Restarts are playing with Paranoid Visions and The Excuses in Eamonn Doran's. That's €10 in.

    €15 very, very well spent.... Just don't buy any drink in Dorans :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,397 ✭✭✭ANarcho-Munk


    dregin wrote: »
    .... Just don't buy any drink in Dorans :P

    Leg it across to the offy half way through the gig between bands and get a naggin into ya. That did me and dregin the last time. :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭OLP


    Crouching tiger hidden naggin


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 6,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭dregin


    Leg it across to the offy half way through the gig between bands and get a naggin into ya. That did me and dregin the last time. :p

    I call that the lap of honour. I think another one might be required tomorrow night :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭Red Sleeping Beauty


    punk has always confused. is it dying or is it coming back or hs it bigger than ever ???? i mean this in terms of the amount of people who are big punk fans

    The Sex Pistols toured last year.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 50 ✭✭Mr Fonnen


    yeah but its like flogging a dead donkey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    Not quite... The mainstream media has a habit of identifying anything it sees as a threat (e.g. a musical movement that moves in direct opposition to the mainstream) and appropriating it as its own, flooding the market with radio-friendly, diluted versions of it's original self and thus diminishing the mystery and pull of the counter culture. Once this is done and the underground counter-culture is then seen as about as alternative as a pair of M&S socks, the mainstream doesn't have any direct opposition to it, as it doesn't pull too much away from their market...

    With regards to punk in recent years, the punk scene in places like California in the early 90's was seen to be thriving so the mainstream record companies flooded the market with bands like Green Day, Blink182, The Offspring, New Found Glory etc. What followed was a trend that lasted a couple of years in the mainstream and was then followed by disillusionment due to over-exposure, thus relieving the pressure on major record companies to deviate from their better selling artists. Punk sinks back to obscurity and anyone unfamiliar with anything beyond MTV goes "Punk's dead again".

    Finit.

    ^ this


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