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Ryanair gets tough on hand baggage

  • 21-01-2009 01:58AM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭mumhaabu


    Originally Posted by rte.ie

    Ryanair says it will charge people who try to carry more than one piece of cabin baggage aboard its flights.

    The airline allows passengers to carry one piece of hand baggage weighing up to 10kg, but it claims there has been a big increase in the number of passengers 'abusing' this allowance. Ryanair says one passenger tried to carry five items of hand baggage onboard one aircraft.
    From now on, Ryanair passengers who turn up with more than one piece of hand baggage will be charged €30 at the departure gate.
    Originally Posted by ryanair.com

    No Exceptions to Ryanair's Cabin Baggage Allowance
    1 MILLION €/£10 SEATS TO CELEBRATE 10KG FREE CABIN BAGGAGE ALLOWANCE
    PASSENGER ATTEMPTS TO CARRY FIVE PIECES OF HAND LUGGAGE ONBOARD

    Ryanair, Europe’s largest and most punctual low fares airline, today (20th Jan) confirmed that there will be no exceptions to its passenger Cabin Baggage Allowance in response to the growing number of passengers carrying more than one piece of hand baggage and after one passenger attempted to carry FIVE items of hand luggage onboard an aircraft.

    Ryanair’s generous free cabin baggage allowance, of 10kg per passenger, is restricted to one bag into which passengers must place all handbags, laptops etc. This policy is enforced across the network, to ensure fairness to all passengers.

    Ryanair passengers who do not comply and present with more than one piece of hand luggage will be charged €/£30 at the departure gate and have their bag placed in the aircraft’s hold. Passengers can half this charge by opting to check-in a bag at the time of their booking or before they travel.

    Ryanair highlighted its generous FREE 10kg cabin baggage allowance by releasing 1 million €/£10 seats for travel across its European network in February and March which are available for booking on www.ryanair.com before midnight Sunday 25th January.

    Ryanair’s Stephen McNamara said:

    “Ryanair’s generous cabin baggage allowance permits passengers to carry one piece of cabin baggage of up to 10kg onto our aircraft. Due to the large increase in passengers abusing this allowance Ryanair will now charge passengers for each additional piece of carry on luggage.

    “Passengers are made clearly aware of their cabin allowance at the time of their booking and it is also printed on their online boarding cards. Passengers who are unable to place items into one bag and refuse to make the additional payments will not be permitted to travel. We are highlighting our 10kg one bag baggage policy by releasing 1million €/£10 seats for travel in February and March.”

    Additional Information

    Each passenger (excluding infants) is permitted to carry one piece (in total) of cabin baggage on board (free of charge). It should weigh no more than 10kg and not exceed the maximum dimensions of 55cm x 40cm x 20cm. Due to security restrictions, certain items cannot be carried in cabin baggage. We reserve the right to cancel any reservation without refund and deny boarding if a passenger arrives at the boarding gate with more than one item of cabin baggage or an item that exceeds the maximum dimensions. Infants do not qualify for a cabin baggage allowance (although a pram / buggy will be carried free of charge).

    Restrictions apply to liquids, gels, pastes, lotions or cosmetics carried in hand baggage. For further information please see www.ryanair.com.
    Can't say I blame them at all; it was getting ridiculous the amount of stuff some people carry on and is just plain penny pinching by the passengers. Makes boarding a fierce hassle, It is similar with Aer Lingus last time I flew with them, pure chaos and not enough overhead bin room. It probably had begun to effect turnaround times as it takes longer to deplane and refill the self loading freight that are Ryanair passengers.

    Plus it will now forces more people to buy checked baggage allowance. Mick is a genius this will increase revenues while actually help the rep of the Airline by making it more user friendly. The joys of being a man and not needing to take half the wardrobe and kitchen sink with me everywhere I go unlike the female of the species.

    However I must now go over to the laptop forum and enquire about carryon laptop pullalongs as putting in everything into one bag uncompartmentalised caused me to temporarily lose my passport at an Airport once - cue panic and slowly fine tooth combing all my belongings only to discover I had put it in with my laptop charger after availing of the free wifi at the airport (outside ROI) - free wifi at an Irish airport yeah right :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    Probably had something to do with weight issues as well, The pilot needs to know what weight (roughly) is on board . If you have 150 passengers and each is carrying an extra 4-5 kg of carry on it could seriously affect the planes ability to fly!
    completely agree with you btw it was getting ridiculous with people bringing full suitcases and baiting them into the overhead bins.


  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jacob Sticky Rip-off


    I do see the point, but it's a bit ridiculous in a lot of ways. You are no longer allowed to carry a handbag. So now I'm expected to keep my passport etc in my rolling suitcase? If I need to take something to the toilet on the plane, I need to haul my suitcase/holdall with me? I'm usually told to put the handbag inside the suitcase, so it's the exact same weight. Just seems like a silly rule. The people bringing on pillows and duvets and massive bags were taking the p*ss, but a tiny little handbag? Now people hold up a queue while they open their suitcase to get their boarding pass out or try to find their passport among their dirty washing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Jacob Sticky Rip-off, have you considered pockets? I find them very useful.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    In agreement with Ryanair on this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭flikflak


    [quote=[Deleted User];58693443]I do see the point, but it's a bit ridiculous in a lot of ways. You are no longer allowed to carry a handbag. So now I'm expected to keep my passport etc in my rolling suitcase? If I need to take something to the toilet on the plane, I need to haul my suitcase/holdall with me? I'm usually told to put the handbag inside the suitcase, so it's the exact same weight. Just seems like a silly rule. The people bringing on pillows and duvets and massive bags were taking the p*ss, but a tiny little handbag? Now people hold up a queue while they open their suitcase to get their boarding pass out or try to find their passport among their dirty washing.[/QUOTE]

    Put a small handbag into your carry on bag then when you get on the plane take it out and pop it under the seat and put carry on bag in overhead bin. sorted.

    They were making people carry only one bag on the plane at Bristol this weekend. I simply popped my tiny handbag into the plastic bag I had my magazine and drink in then when going up the plane steps I put it over my shoulder and there it remained for the rest of the journey. Its one of those long strap ones that goes over one shoulder.
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


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  • Posts: 6,645 ✭✭✭ Jacob Sticky Rip-off


    Jacob Sticky Rip-off, have you considered pockets? I find them very useful.

    I don't have a garment with pockets big enough to hold my passport and other important documents along with other essential items I'd need at the airport and during the flight. I'm assuming you're a man?
    They were making people carry only one bag on the plane at Bristol this weekend. I simply popped my tiny handbag into the plastic bag I had my magazine and drink in

    So it's fine to have a plastic bag with a magazine and drink in, big enough to fit your handbag, but you're not allowed to just carry your handbag? Their logic is silly. So it's OK to have a bag of things you purchased at the airport, including the overpriced water you're forced to buy because you can't bring your own through, but you can't have a tiny bag with your personal items :rolleyes: That's what I find silly.

    When I flew last Friday, I didn't see anyone taking the p*ss with hand luggage. I saw that a lot of time was wasted checking peoples' bags and making them put one bag inside another. It's all going on the same plane at the end of the day. If someone clearly has two big bags or their suitcase is too big, then sure, they should pay extra. It's fairly obvious which passengers are abusing the allowance.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,338 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Yeah, bout time they enforced this.Last flight I got, there was no room to put my carry on bag, due to jackets, jumpers, duty free bags and overweight carry on bags. They ended up putting in down under with the cases. I argued at the time that my camera and other expensive stuff was in it, but the lady turned to me and asked where should it go seen as there was no visible room. She had a point, but if my camera went missing.....


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,926 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    I hope Aer Lingus are reading this one, had a flight to Las Palmas last year with some knob in front with a large rucksack and a guitar as carry on luggage :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    if i'm checking a suitcase in at the airport, can i still carry a bag onto the plane with me ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    alibabba wrote: »
    if i'm checking a suitcase in at the airport, can i still carry a bag onto the plane with me ?

    you sure can


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    [quote=[Deleted User];58696014]I don't have a garment with pockets big enough to hold my passport and other important documents along with other essential items I'd need at the airport and during the flight. I'm assuming you're a man?[/QUOTE]

    It depends on how much stuff you consider essential, I suppose.

    Do you have a neat little bag with a shoulder strap? You could wear it rather than carry it. To avoid boarding gate disputes, let it hang under your coat or jacket.

    [Why am I participating in this discussion? I don't use Ryanair.]
    Post edited by Boards.ie: Mike on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭alibabba


    Rob_l wrote: »
    you sure can

    Even a second suitcase (the right size of course) ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,939 ✭✭✭mikedragon32


    Yes, subject to the restrictions imposed by the carrier and/or the airport security.

    It's about time this happened. Very welcome initiative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭Rob_l


    alibabba wrote: »
    Even a second suitcase (the right size of course) ?

    Yes hand luggage has nothing to do with checked luggage if you check in one bag you are still allowed another bag of the right size and weight to be carried on as hand luggage


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    I agree with Ryanair too. The amount of people who bring on a completely stuffed laptop bag plus a suitcase of "hand" luggage...and then try to squish it into the over-head compartment on top of my stuff...grr.

    Also I would not like to be someone knocked on the head when the compartment doors open in turbulence!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,860 ✭✭✭✭inforfun


    alibabba wrote: »
    if i'm checking a suitcase in at the airport, can i still carry a bag onto the plane with me ?

    Yes, you can (as others already said)

    So with Ryanair this means you can travel with 25 kgs (15 checked in, 10 hand luggage)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭holdmyhand?


    flyin home from liverpool in november.... I only ever bring hand luggage as i usually only goin for 2/3 nights.... but this time was busy and there was about 5 guys id say the same age as me ( 20) and they had 2 big bags each.... there was no room in the over head bins, so the stewardess told them to put them in empty seats (yes seriously) my mam has worked for airlines and this is a HUGE mistake. they ended up on top of the people behind during take off and on landing they fell out on the aisle..... safety first?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭axer


    Usually its the case that Servisair/globe ground etc are the one's pushing the strictness since they are the ones that make most if not all of the money from extra baggage.

    I have to say though that on my last regular trip to germany there was not enough space to put my bag in the over head storage which was a first in all the 50 or so times I have flown with ryanair on that route over the past 2/3 years. Ended up having to put my carry on baggage in the hold which delayed for a min or two.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭Unshelved


    flyin home from liverpool in november.... I only ever bring hand luggage as i usually only goin for 2/3 nights.... but this time was busy and there was about 5 guys id say the same age as me ( 20) and they had 2 big bags each.... there was no room in the over head bins, so the stewardess told them to put them in empty seats (yes seriously) my mam has worked for airlines and this is a HUGE mistake. they ended up on top of the people behind during take off and on landing they fell out on the aisle..... safety first?

    Happened to me on a Ryanair flight from Porto last year. We had checked our bags in but the amount of people just taking the p*ss with the sheer volume of handluggage that they brought on board was just ridiculous. The stewardess tried to strap a full-sized rucksack onto the aisle seat beside me and I objected and told her to remove it. There was no way that she could strap in in securely and it would have fallen out during turbulence - plus it completely blocked my access to the aisle.

    She ended up giving it to the passenger who brought it on board and he spent the entire flight with it on his lap. He wasn't between me and the nearest emergency exit so it wasn't my problem but if he was I'd have objected again.

    I wrote to Ryanair and to the Irish Aviation Authority afterwards but got nowhere.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 27,403 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Why do people not use the space under the seat in front of them?
    If the ginormous hand luggage can't fit there, it's too big and should have been checked in.

    Always amazes me how much some people take with them for a short break.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭pipsqueak


    The same people who bring a huge suitcase as "carry on" are the same people who stand talking when the front and back of the plane are exiting, when it comes for their turn to move out into the aisle the decide then to reach up and spend the next 2 minutes pulling their over weight/oversized suitcase from the overhead bin.
    That bugs the bejaysus out of me! Why when your were standing there talking pure sh1t to your pal making sure every one in the cabin could hear your pointless chit chat could you not just reach up and take it then??

    grrr!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,155 ✭✭✭chasm


    For once I'm with Ryanair on this one too. People who bring more than one item of Hand luggage usually end up holding up the Queue and seriously get on my nerves.
    It really bugs me when i see someone in the queue with a couple of bags and maybe a carrier bag also as it clearly states at time of booking that it is 1 item of hand baggage- they are probably the same people who end up fishing heaps of sprays/liquids etc out of their hand luggage at the security gate because they "didnt realise", then moan because they had only just bought that new bottle of perfume and those little hitlers took it off them!
    I used to fly to stansted quite a bit and the security staff are very strict about having one item of hand baggage. The bag i use was bought specifically for my flights to the uk as it has 2 zipped pockets which i use for passport/boarding card and purse, then i put my handbag in the bag. You dont need much else to hand really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭axer


    spurious wrote: »
    Why do people not use the space under the seat in front of them?
    If the ginormous hand luggage can't fit there, it's too big and should have been checked in.

    Always amazes me how much some people take with them for a short break.
    The bag I usually travel with it the maximum dimensions allowed by Ryanair and it will not fit under the seat. It passes all the size tests (they are anal about sizes and weights in berlin).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    axer wrote: »
    The bag I usually travel with it the maximum dimensions allowed by Ryanair and it will not fit under the seat. It passes all the size tests (they are anal about sizes and weights in berlin).

    much worse in frankfurt hahn, at least in berlin not everyone is stopped and checked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 50 ✭✭aoife34


    I travelled with Ryanair on Sunday. There was a man on his own with two small bags, and he was told to transfer his belongings into one bag, but then 3 girls walked straight by him while he was doing that, and between 3 of them, they had 5 bigger bags than he had and nothing was said to them!!!!

    If they are going to do it, they can not let some people away with it and not others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭axer


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    much worse in frankfurt hahn, at least in berlin not everyone is stopped and checked
    About 5-6 months ago Globe ground started stopping all ryanair and easyjet passengers flying out of berlin just before entering security to check the size of their bag. Before that they just asked at the desk and weighed your carry on luggage if you had some.

    Normally I just told them I didnt have any and left the carry on with the girlfriend until I was leaving. The bags were never too big but might have been 1 or 2 kilos over weight. Saw alot of people get charged in berlin by having to put their carry on bags through main luggage due to 1 or 2 kilos. Cost them about 60 euro for the priviledge.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭HarryD


    wonder how they'll police it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    axer wrote: »
    About 5-6 months ago Globe ground started stopping all ryanair and easyjet passengers flying out of berlin just before entering security to check the size of their bag. Before that they just asked at the desk and weighed your carry on luggage if you had some.

    flew out of berlin on january 3rd, there was only one guy checking bags and he was overwhelmed with the queue so he didn't check everything. in frankfurt they have 3 or 4 and you must line up and they stop everyone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    HarryD wrote: »
    wonder how they'll police it

    they will follow the german model, ie in dublin airport before going through security you will first be checked by groundstaff probably where they hand out the plastic bags for liquid now, those groundstaff will check ticket and bags, your bags will placed in the bucket thing they have at airports (that they never use here)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭roo_photo


    Will this affect duty free purchases? As now you need space in you hand luggage to cram in any bottles or cartons of fags !

    So the choice is either to bring change of clothes, or buy duty free. I know what my choice will be ....:P

    Should interesting if the retailers start to notice this!


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