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Can i import tobacco if the duty and VAT is already paid?

  • 20-01-2009 3:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭


    For example if i order on the internet to ship to ireland from spain. If the duty and VAT is already paid in spain and the goods have the taxation stickers to prove this then i wont have to any additional duty when the goods arrive here will I? And do the usual limits apply to how much i can bring in provided it's for my own personal use?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    dont think so,im not an expert but,i woundnt think it be that easy,otherwise half the country would be importing them through the post,i do think do the cigs should be brought down in price since we get most of them from uk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    In order to pay the excise duty of the country where the goods were purchased (e.g. €0 for Spain), you must transport them yourself personally. It's Article 8 of Directive 92/12/EEC.

    you will pay duty on those


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    In order to pay the excise duty of the country where the goods were purchased (e.g. €0 for Spain), you must transport them yourself personally. It's Article 8 of Directive 92/12/EEC.

    you will pay duty on those

    it explains why ryanair would be busy in them destinations!,alot of people fly over quick and come back with them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,120 ✭✭✭shrapnel222


    Fred83 wrote: »
    it explains why ryanair would be busy in them destinations!,alot of people fly over quick and come back with them

    and the term booze cruise was invented


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,518 ✭✭✭✭briany


    OK i'm getting so many conflicting answers on this one.For example on wikipedia (not always most reliable ,mind) it says "The European Union Customs Union is a Customs union which consists of all European Union member states. No customs are levied on goods travelling within the Customs Union." So what does that mean? Does that only apply to goods outside of alcohol and tobacco or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    VAT on imports

    This section only deals with VAT for private individuals who buy goods for personal use.

    In general, you have to pay VAT and import duty on any goods you are bringing into Ireland from outside the EU. This includes goods purchased online and by mail order. You will have to pay VAT at the same rate as applies in Ireland for similar goods.

    Within the EU, VAT is usually paid in the Member State you purchased the goods, however, there are some exceptions (see below).
    If you buy online or by mail order etc.

    From outside the EU

    You can buy goods from outside the EU up to a value of €22 without incurring any VAT charges. Goods up to a value of €150 may be imported without payment of Customs Duty. To avoid these packages being stopped by Customs, the value should be clearly marked on the label. However, VAT and import duty is charged on importations of tobacco, tobacco products, alcoholic product and perfumes even if they cost less than €22. The Revenue Commissioners provide a Guide to the reliefs available for the import from non-EC countries.

    If your online purchase costs more than €22 you will have to pay VAT. If your online purchase costs more than €150 you will have to pay VAT and Customs Duty. This will be collected by the company that delivers your parcel. The company usually have an administration charge. Methods of delivery and collection differ from company to company, so you should contact them directly for more information.

    From another EU Member State

    If goods are sent to you from another Member State whether you pay VAT here or in the Member State depends on the level of trade the supplier has with Ireland. If the supplier has a high level of trade with Ireland you may pay VAT here. The European Commission provides more information about shopping online within the EU.

    Excisable products (for example, alcohol, tobacco and oil) purchased within the EU via the internet or by mail are subject to excise duty and VAT.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/money-and-tax/tax/duties-and-vat/value-added-tax

    as I said in the other thread, if you buy a pack of smokes it is not worth the admin costs to collect the duty. SOme sites will send you 1 pack everyday, you pay for lots in advance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    briany wrote: »
    OK i'm getting so many conflicting answers on this one.For example on wikipedia (not always most reliable ,mind) it says "The European Union Customs Union is a Customs union which consists of all European Union member states. No customs are levied on goods travelling within the Customs Union." So what does that mean? Does that only apply to goods outside of alcohol and tobacco or what?

    Tobacco, fuel, alcohol, and some other items, attract a high rate of duty, and this duty is different for different member states. You can buy whatever you want in the EU, and ship it around, without having to worry about VAT, but the duty is a different matter. If you're bringing it in yourself, you are given a fixed maximum allowance that is duty free (as long as the duty was paid in the other country). If you're shipping it in though, you pay the duty at the receiving country's rate. That's how I believe it works.

    There may still be a level, below which, these products are duty free, or below which, it is not worth the hassle of collecting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭97i9y3941


    have to ask,hopefully someone answer this,shoundnt cigs be going down in price thanks to sterling/dollar weakness?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    I believe that most cigs sold here are packaged/produced here in Ireland, so the price will not be effected by currency variations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    jor el wrote: »
    I believe that most cigs sold here are packaged/produced here in Ireland, so the price will not be effected by currency variations.

    Yes, so the only other thing is the tobacco itself, which is only a small % of the overall cost of a packet of cigarettes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,059 ✭✭✭MediaTank


    Having tried this route to import tobacco products you WILL be charged VAT, Excide Duty and a handling charge. It dosn't matter if the goods originated in the EU, you will still be charged. Cusoms may also open the package to inspect it to determine the amount to charge you.

    The only exception is if you bring goods in personally, not via post or courier.


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