can i claim dole?

JohnSmith2

howrya. im 18 im just finished school and i live at home. my mother doesnt work. my father is a painter/decorator but he doesnt have any work at the moment. am i entitled to the dole?

niceirishfella

Yes.

Dolbert

Go to your local social welfare office, someone will sit with you and let you know what your entitlements are.

JohnSmith2

thank you. i was told by someone that i couldnt because i live with my parents so thanks for clearing that up

havana

Because you live at home you may be means tested. At least thats the way it was when i claimed for a few months when i left college many moons ago. But with your parents not working at present you will hopefully qualify.

Mrs OBumble

Don't forget that you are also eligible to get a job (dreadful though that may seem to you!). With youth rates and all, you may be quite attractive to some employers.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

JohnSmith2 wrote: »

thank you. i was told by someone that i couldnt because i live with my parents so thanks for clearing that up

Nah, but they might ask for your parents credentials, some tax forms and that. Your benifits will be based on what they earn.

You ever worked before? If not, then I suggest not getting the dole.

deadhead13

Visit www.welfare.ie that will give you all the information you need

TripleAce

JohnSmith2 wrote: »

howrya. im 18 im just finished school and i live at home. my mother doesnt work. my father is a painter/decorator but he doesnt have any work at the moment. am i entitled to the dole?

get a job

niceirishfella

TripleAce wrote: »

get a job

Simple as that ehhhhh Triple!:)

ManFromAtlantis

probably,.......this is ireland afterall................

kiwikid

JustMary wrote: »

Don't forget that you are also eligible to get a job (dreadful though that may seem to you!).

yes you should go pull a job out of your ar*e and go to work. simple:rolleyes:

artful_codger

kiwikid wrote: »

yes you should go pull a job out of your ar*e and go to work. simple:rolleyes:

your sarcastic tone is a bit over the top, this isn't the 80's when there were lines of Irish people outside McDonalds trying to get a job. There's still loads of jobs out there, but the pampered Celtic Tiger Cubs still think they're above doing a job that's now done by foreigners. Thank god for this recession, it'll kill off the mindset of entitlement that us Irish have developed in the last decade.

deadhead13

What, you know for a fact that there is loads of jobs out there? Unemployment has jumped from 4% to 8% in a year and is espected to far exceed 10% by the end of this one. That is every bit as bad as the 80's, perhaps worse. Its a pity the recession won't kill off the mindset of self-satisfied self-righteousness.

kiwikid

From my experience mim wage employers are usually bias towards the immigrants who accepted more and were abused. Hense the no Irish signage on Polish construction sites.
I agree that op should not go straight from eduction to the dole but i doubt there is €€ there to advise him to to college ether.
sure get a job if you can - you can't draw dole without actively seeking work anyway.

Galwaaygirl

If you are under the age of 23, the social welfare folk consider you to be dependent on your parents and they may means test them to see whether they can afford to support you or not.

That doesn't mean you wont be entitled to dole but that is how they work as far as I can tell

RedXIV

deadhead13 wrote: »

What, you know for a fact that there is loads of jobs out there? Unemployment has jumped from 4% to 8% in a year and is espected to far exceed 10% by the end of this one. That is every bit as bad as the 80's, perhaps worse. Its a pity the recession won't kill off the mindset of self-satisfied self-righteousness.

yes i know for a fact there are loads of jobs out there. Just alot of people don't seem to be interested in them. I'm a student and supporting myself but i've had no trouble finding work for myself, and anyone with a bit of determination could do the same

deadhead13

There are currently 300,000 people unemployed. The number of vacancies is a mere fraction of this figure. If these jobs were all filled tomorrow it would still leave a hell of alot of people out of work. And its going to get alot worse.

artful_codger

deadhead13 wrote: »

There are currently 300,000 people unemployed. The number of vacancies is a mere fraction of this figure. If these jobs were all filled tomorrow it would still leave a hell of alot of people out of work. And its going to get alot worse.

even during the best days of the Celtic Tiger, there was still 5% of people out there who had priorities other than working for a living. Until i see an Irish person working in McDonalds, Spar, O'Briens or just delivering Pizzas, i'm not going to listen to excuses that there's no jobs out there.

Whiskey Devil

Do you think an Irish person just has to do is walk into McDonalds or Spar and they'll send their hard working Polish employee packing? I work in recruitment and I can tell that there are little or no jobs out there. I worked on Tescos recruitment for their new 24 hour store in Drogheda and they received almost 1000 applications, most of which were from Irish people, for just over 200 jobs.


Take your smug head out of your arse.

Whiskey Devil

RedXIV wrote: »

yes i know for a fact there are loads of jobs out there. Just alot of people don't seem to be interested in them. I'm a student and supporting myself but i've had no trouble finding work for myself, and anyone with a bit of determination could do the same

A new retail park just opened in Carlow, right? :rolleyes:

artful_codger

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

hard working Polish employee

you've hit the nail on the head there, sunshine.

I never mentioned Tesco or Dunnes, i'm aware they employ mostly irish people... why ? because they're unionised and they pay more for less work compared to non-Union businesses like Spar and O'Briens. If irish people want to work, they can no longer turn their nose up to the likes of Spar.

TripleAce

deadhead13 wrote: »

What, you know for a fact that there is loads of jobs out there? Unemployment has jumped from 4% to 8% in a year and is espected to far exceed 10% by the end of this one. That is every bit as bad as the 80's, perhaps worse. Its a pity the recession won't kill off the mindset of self-satisfied self-righteousness.

Talking about 8% unemployment is a very pessimistic point of view!

Let's say there is a solid 92% employment out there therefore 10 out of 11 people have got a job.....surely with this % if you cannot get a job within 6 months you can just be classified as the lazy one!

Problem is, work on the minimum wage at Mc Donalds = around 1.3k €/month I guess.

Staying at home on the Dole = 900€/month + another 400€ rent allowance = 1.3k € month.

Same money ffs!

Disgraceful towards people working their ass off on minimum wages IMO.

deadhead13

artful_codger wrote: »

you've hit the nail on the head there, sunshine.

I never mentioned Tesco or Dunnes, i'm aware they employ mostly irish people... why ? because they're unionised and they pay more for less work compared to non-Union businesses like Spar and O'Briens. If irish people want to work, they can no longer turn their nose up to the likes of Spar.

It is forcasted that 85,000 jobs will be lost in the Irish economy this year. That is a net loss - fact not excuse. But you just keep on with your own narrow little agenda and keep refusing to see the big picture.

RedXIV

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

A new retail park just opened in Carlow, right? :rolleyes:

not yet I'm not trying to offend anyone, i'm just saying that anyone that wanted work could find it if they looked. But as stated above, why would people work if they could claim dole for the same amount of money? I don't have that option as a student, I HAVE to work. I went looking for a job about 2 months ago and got a nicely paid one with Nintendo for weekends. I also got offered a security job, a job in Game, two pub jobs, a waiting job and a job in a hotel. And these aren't just limited to Carlow.

mikemac

kiwikid wrote: »

From my experience mim wage employers are usually bias towards the immigrants who accepted more and were abused.

I'd pretty much agree with that. Especially where you were finishing up at 4am and told to be in 10am the next day if you want to keep your job. Minimum rest periods, lol!
And I say that as someone who once applied to McDonalds but wasn't hired.
Got a hotel job instead where this was rife

From what I gather McDonalds actually have a decent reputation for treating their staff well. There are worse minimum wage jobs for sure.
Chin up OP, there are jobs out there and once you have a job it's often easier to get another. Work hard for a few months, get a reference and use it as a stepping stone

Whiskey Devil

artful_codger wrote: »

you've hit the nail on the head there, sunshine.

I never mentioned Tesco or Dunnes, i'm aware they employ mostly irish people... why ? because they're unionised and they pay more for less work compared to non-Union businesses like Spar and O'Briens. If irish people want to work, they can no longer turn their nose up to the likes of Spar.

And you're under the impression that Spar and O' Briens are still employing people? :rolleyes: Our local Londis let 8 staff go in the last couple of months - they employ one non-national as far as I know) They are suffering just like everybody else. Tesco floor workers are on a little over minimum wage - Non-nationals are not leaving their jobs in McDonalds or any other minimum wage jobs so until they do it's unlikely that you'll see an increase in the number of Irish working these jobs.

I don't deny that people looked down their noses at these jobs when things were going well but most of them haven't been long changing their tune. I have to deal with them everyday.

Whiskey Devil

TripleAce wrote: »

Talking about 8% unemployment is a very pessimistic point of view!

Let's say there is a solid 92% employment out there therefore 10 out of 11 people have got a job.....surely with this % if you cannot get a job within 6 months you can just be classified as the lazy one!

It's not very difficult to understand.

1. Thousands lose their jobs every week.
2. No new jobs are being created to replace these jobs.
3. Very few people are leaving their jobs so there are no positions to fill.

A common example: A guy in his early 20's, qualified carpenter but has no other experience. He apply's for a job in retail along with 20 other guys. 5 of them have experience. Who gets the job?