After watching ufc 93...

ginoginelli

After watching ufc 93 and other mma events, and seeing the devestating affect an eye poke can have on a pro fighter..

Who thinks that eye pokes are a functional and realistic strike for self - defence?

Do you think you could land one in a pressure situation with appropiate training?

cowzerp

when fighters go down in sports due to groin strikes eye strikes etc.. Its because they can not because they have to, in a real fight you suck it up or worse will come your way, are the effective? Maybe but they would be very low succes rates due to the tiny area you aiming for, if the head moves 1 inch you've missed. Even if your able to land it does not mean you have won.

Kila

Potentially, they are both functional and effective.

As a self defence technique, though, they are, in my opinion, ill advised.

Aside from the fact that in a fight situation, your fine motor control is likely to be severely reduced, thus limiting your chances of hitting on target and with the desired degree of force, the law of the land obliges us to use only reasonable force in defence of yourself or others. What "reasonable force" constitutes is sometimes quite a grey area. However, when you poke someone in the eye, you're risking damaging their vision, permanently impairing or blinding them. Even in a self defence situation where you didn't start the fight, I doubt that the Gardaí on scene, the jury, or the judge will consider permanent sight damage to be "reasonable".

I think far too much emphasis is placed on techniques like these in some self defence courses, where the instructor sells the idea that with a few classes, you can be combatively effective. They usually teach things like groin strikes, eye pokes and gauges, etc. They don't usually cover the likely consequences of the use of extreme techniques in self defence situations.

Charlie3dan

I think an eye poke is too unreliable a technique to rely on for self defense. Even if you could land one it wouldn't necessarily be fight over either.
However, I think these kind of techniques are effective for creating space in close distance/ clinch or on the ground. They do have their place in self defence.

yomchi

Kila wrote: »

Potentially, they are both functional and effective.

As a self defence technique, though, they are, in my opinion, ill advised.

Aside from the fact that in a fight situation, your fine motor control is likely to be severely reduced, thus limiting your chances of hitting on target and with the desired degree of force, the law of the land obliges us to use only reasonable force in defence of yourself or others. What "reasonable force" constitutes is sometimes quite a grey area. However, when you poke someone in the eye, you're risking damaging their vision, permanently impairing or blinding them. Even in a self defence situation where you didn't start the fight, I doubt that the Gardaí on scene, the jury, or the judge will consider permanent sight damage to be "reasonable".

I think far too much emphasis is placed on techniques like these in some self defence courses, where the instructor sells the idea that with a few classes, you can be combatively effective. They usually teach things like groin strikes, eye pokes and gauges, etc. They don't usually cover the likely consequences of the use of extreme techniques in self defence situations.

Agreed!

arybvtcw0eolkf

ginoginelli wrote: »

After watching ufc 93 and other mma events, and seeing the devestating affect an eye poke can have on a pro fighter..

Who thinks that eye pokes are a functional and realistic strike for self - defence?

Do you think you could land one in a pressure situation with appropiate training?

You must have missed Barros kick Kampmann right into the bollox so!..

Now THATS something useful on the street!..

ginoginelli

Mairt wrote: »

You must have missed Barros kick Kampmann right into the bollox so!..

Now THATS something useful on the street!..

lol saw that on youtube..fair play to him for commin back so well.

Same question applies for groin strikes, how functional are they in a street scenario?

Do you think you could land one in a pressure situation with appropiate training?

agardiner22

I was under the big screen at the O2 and could hear the crack of the groin kick:eek::eek::eek:

arybvtcw0eolkf

agardiner22 wrote: »

I was under the big screen at the O2 and could hear the crack of the groin kick:eek::eek::eek:

I was up at the back row and we heard it up there too!.