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Khan v Marco Antonio Barrera on 14 March

  • 15-01-2009 1:06pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭


    Amir Khan is to fight Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera on 14 March, according to loads of the english newspapers - press conference @1.30pm

    Warren and co must think Barrerra is shot if they are looking for this fight.
    HOpefully he can land one on him.

    This will be PPV on sky box office - thats the main thing that annoys me about the boxing on sky, when there is anything even half interesting they make it PPV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭MBC


    Just seen on setanta sports news that MA Barrera are set to fight Amir Khan on March 14th in London.

    Barrera is one of my favourite boxers of all time..........i really hope he is coming to kick khans ass and not just a payday with I very much doubt as he is a true professional of the game.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I hope Khan kicks MAB' ass. MAB is past it by a bit now and Khan should be too much for him. Is it a step too far too soon?

    I don't know; but if MAB cannot hurt Khan, then Khan should be far too fast and busy. MAB needs a KO win in this.

    Khan's chin is still sussy. I don't think MAB can whallop as heavy as Prescott; but maybe lesser shots will suffice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,370 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Barerra is well past it. Khan, despite his well documented weakness, should win this easily. If he doesn't poor Frank Warren will be distraught;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    WOW


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    MAB didn't look that bad the last time I saw him fight - if he has an ounce left Khan is in trouble and he can still go 12 rounds.

    If Amir doesn't get the KO and I don't think he will a 12 round war is not his cup of tea.


    MAB TKO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    MAB has to IMO get the KO; I cannot envisage a man well past it like MAB out working the faster, younger and busier Khan. Khan is also bigger and hits harder.

    Years ago, YES, MAB wins. But Khan should be too fresh and fast and everything else!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Just merged these two threads guys.

    Khan will look like a heavyweight in against a middle in this match!

    A lot bigger!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,025 ✭✭✭slipss


    I really think Berrara's shot at this stage, it's a smart move for the Khan camp, less knowledgeable fans will no doubt be very impressed by Khan taking out someone of MAB's reputation. Having said that Khan better really hope that Marco is long past it cause if he can get anywhere near his younger form and keep it there for the first handful of rounds I could see him taking Khan apart piece by piece and making him look silly. But like I said, I reckon MAB is shot, Khan should coast it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,370 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    If Barrera had power i'd be worried for Khan but he doesn't. Khan will simply be too fresh and too fast for a past it Barrera to win on points. Warren is no fool, there is no way he'd take this fight after what happened with Prescott if he felt there was real danger of his prize asset being beaten.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭richie rich08


    walshb wrote: »
    I hope Khan kicks MAB' ass.

    And why exactly do you want khan to kick a 35 year old Barerras ass?
    So we can be hearing about it for the next year?
    About how he beating the legend that is MAB avenged the defeat Naz suffered to him??
    Sorry mate but you really need to cope on.

    I think Marco can indeed do it,
    Amir has shown no evidence of any Power at all,
    but he has indeed shown that he has a glass jaw.
    This is a desperate attempt by Frank Warren to try keep people having an interest in this amateur fighter.
    Amir Khan has a 3year deal with Sky Box Office so they have to keep him in the public eye.

    Barerra last defeat was to Manny Pacquiao which is absolutely nothing to be ashamed off.

    I predict Barerra KO


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    I think factoring in age 50/50 fight, this will definetly be in the charity comp we are running, get your moneys in dudes..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 968 ✭✭✭ODD-JOB


    Just a quick tip here ......

    Bookies odds :

    Amir Khan 6/5 with WilliamHill

    Marco Anto Barrera 5/4 Bet365 + Skybet

    will'hills are the only one putting Khan in as underdog.

    if you fancy Khan then back him quick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 80 ✭✭LickiRake


    Amir Khan has a 3year deal with Sky Box Office so they have to keep him in the public eye.

    Barerra last defeat was to Manny Pacquiao which is absolutely nothing to be ashamed off.

    I predict Barerra KO


    I agree with the whole sky box office having a huge say in this fight, its a really risky fight for Kahn! I really cant understand why Frank Warrens rushing Kahn so quickly! The Kids only 21! Its like hes tryna fast track him to sneak an alphabet title or something?! He held back Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe for as long as possible, same with Naseem Hamed, who's career coincidentally was ended by MAB. Just don't smell right, i personally rate Kahn, just think if he can keep hes hands up he'll cause anyone trouble at lightweight. Just not right now! Like a British or European title would of been fine till 2010, be a shame to think he could end his career without a title...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,430 ✭✭✭megadodge


    He held back Ricky Hatton and Joe Calzaghe for as long as possible, same with Naseem Hamed,

    Hamed fought for and won the European title against a decent champ at 20 years of age in just his 12th bout !!

    He fought for and won the WBO title against a decent champ at 21 years of age !!

    Khan is already older than Hamed was for either of these fights, so....

    I can't see Barrera being sharp enough to win this - and I'm a big MAB fan. He's been out too long and he's up against a bigger, faster and more active fighter. Of course, with Khan's dodgy chin who knows, but still it all points to either a wide points win or late stoppage for Khan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I said it in that last Khan thread that the sky deal could be his downfall. The sky PPV deal with force him to fight better opposition and they are taking a huge risk fighting MAB, personally I hope Marco takes him to school but Warren is a sly old dog maybe he knows something we do not.

    The MAB that fought Manny was not shot - declining yes but not shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    And why exactly do you want khan to kick a 35 year old Barerras ass?
    So we can be hearing about it for the next year?
    About how he beating the legend that is MAB avenged the defeat Naz suffered to him??
    Sorry mate but you really need to cope on.

    I think Marco can indeed do it,
    Amir has shown no evidence of any Power at all,
    but he has indeed shown that he has a glass jaw.
    This is a desperate attempt by Frank Warren to try keep people having an interest in this amateur fighter.
    Amir Khan has a 3year deal with Sky Box Office so they have to keep him in the public eye.

    Barerra last defeat was to Manny Pacquiao which is absolutely nothing to be ashamed off.

    I predict Barerra KO

    Relax!

    I just want a Khan win. I certainly won't be jumping
    and shouting about it. MAB is well past
    his best now; but why want to see MAB win?

    He's the past! Khan and the young guys are the future and for
    the sake of boxing; I want to see a dominant win for Khan.

    He's hardly an unlikeable lad either!

    Bottom line is that he is a fantastic boxer with a suspect chin.

    He has the power, speed and moves. Lets hope he continues!
    Khan is without doubt exciting and a draw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Relax!

    I just want a Khan win. I certainly won't be jumping
    and shouting about it. MAB is well past
    his best now; but why want to see MAB win?

    He's the past! Khan and the young guys are the future and for
    the sake of boxing; I want to see a dominant win for Khan.

    He's hardly an unlikeable lad either!

    Bottom line is that he is a fantastic boxer with a suspect chin.

    He has the power, speed and moves. Lets hope he continues!
    Khan is without doubt exciting and a draw!


    Sure Khan is exciting and has skill - but I still want to see him waxed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Sure Khan is exciting and has skill - but I still want to see him waxed.

    Why? Don't you like him as a personality?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Why? Don't you like him as a personality?

    Not at all Khan can be quite entertaining but we all have a favorites and he is fighting one of mine.


    If he was to fight a guy like Campbell I would be hoping Khan could beat that guy.

    In saying that the sky deal annoyed me, PPV at this stage if his career is criminal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Not at all Khan can be quite entertaining but we all have a favorites and he is fighting one of mine.


    If he was to fight a guy like Campbell I would be hoping Khan could beat that guy.

    In saying that the sky deal annoyed me, PPV at this stage if his career is criminal.

    I don't know really; the fact it's against MAB, that will sell it.
    New against Old! Intriguing match and like WE said, Khan is an exciting fighter.
    That does sell! I would PAY to watch Khan; at least you are guaranteed action and some ferocity! No pissin' about in Khan fights like some other so called greats!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 Duddyfan


    And why exactly do you want khan to kick a 35 year old Barerras ass?
    So we can be hearing about it for the next year?
    About how he beating the legend that is MAB avenged the defeat Naz suffered to him??
    Sorry mate but you really need to cope on.

    I think Marco can indeed do it,
    Amir has shown no evidence of any Power at all,
    but he has indeed shown that he has a glass jaw.
    This is a desperate attempt by Frank Warren to try keep people having an interest in this amateur fighter.
    Amir Khan has a 3year deal with Sky Box Office so they have to keep him in the public eye.

    Barerra last defeat was to Manny Pacquiao which is absolutely nothing to be ashamed off.

    I predict Barerra KO

    Agree with you on this. If Barerra is even half as good as he used to be, he ko's Khan easily.I also don't know why anyone would want to see a boxing legend and true professional like Barerra get his ass kicked by a cocky little ****er like Khan!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Mgoraf


    Wasn't Roach the trainer of Pac Man when he beat Barrera twice? I know huge gulf between him and Khan but still...

    I think MAB will KO him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I dont think Roach will have any bearing on this fight, it will all depend on MAB and how past it he is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 61 ✭✭richie rich08


    walshb wrote: »
    Relax!

    I just want a Khan win. I certainly won't be jumping
    and shouting about it. MAB is well past
    his best now; but why want to see MAB win?

    He's the past! Khan and the young guys are the future and for
    the sake of boxing; I want to see a dominant win for Khan.

    He's hardly an unlikeable lad either!

    Bottom line is that he is a fantastic boxer with a suspect chin.

    He has the power, speed and moves. Lets hope he continues!
    Khan is without doubt exciting and a draw!

    No mate you said you hope Khan whoops Barerras ass not just a win.
    I wouldnt rule out barerra saying he is past it?
    Look at what Bernard Hopkins did to Pavlik?
    Pavlik being an undefeated world champion aswell,
    what has Khan got to show in his professional career?

    It aint like Barerra is your Normal Boxing HOF who just wont retire due to the fact he is broke,
    its down to the fact that he still posesses the same flare and love for boxing!
    Yeah maybe he aint good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao but Amir Khan? I really think so....

    We will have to see what happens but as i said i predict a KO from the Mexican


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No mate you said you hope Khan whoops Barerras ass not just a win.
    I wouldnt rule out barerra saying he is past it?
    Look at what Bernard Hopkins did to Pavlik?
    Pavlik being an undefeated world champion aswell,
    what has Khan got to show in his professional career?

    It aint like Barerra is your Normal Boxing HOF who just wont retire due to the fact he is broke,
    its down to the fact that he still posesses the same flare and love for boxing!
    Yeah maybe he aint good enough to beat Manny Pacquiao but Amir Khan? I really think so....

    We will have to see what happens but as i said i predict a KO from the Mexican

    Ok, I hope he whups his ass; Jeez, steady on!

    As TKO said, it will depend on how far past it MAB is.
    Judging by recent outings, he is far from peak.

    Also, Khan does have all the physical advantages and
    power advantage. If MAB was a KO type puncher, even being
    past it, he would still be a threat. He is a small man and hardly a big
    single hitter. All the odds are in Khan's favour here.

    MAB is older, slower, not as big, not as fit, not as strong etc etc.

    IMO, we will have to wait and see; but a Barrera win is IMO unlikely!

    Does anyone really envisage MAB out boxing Khan?

    I just cannot see that. He needs the KO and I don't think
    he will get it! Should he get it, Khan should GIVE up!

    BTW, the HOP example with Pav is IMO not at all
    an accurate view to how MAB could beat Khan.

    HOP is a real clever vet and Pavlik very hittable and one
    dimensional with no real speed. Khan is blindingly fast and
    that will be MABs biggest problem. Also, HOP was the
    bigger man and more used to fighting at the higher weight!

    MAB is in it for a pay day, and fair play to him if he can
    get it. You say it's because of his love for boxing?

    Yes, it is that too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Ok, I hope he whups his ass; Jeez!

    As TKO said, it will depend on how far past it MAB is.
    Judging by recent outings, he is far from peak.

    Also, Khan does have all the physical advantages and
    power advantage. If MAB was a KO type puncher, even being
    past it, he would still be a threat. He is a small man and hardly a big
    single hitter. All the odds are in Khan's favour here.

    MAB is older, slower, not as big, not as fit, not as strong etc etc.

    IMO, we will have to wait and see; but a Barrera win is IMO unlikely!

    Does anyone really envisage MAB ou tboxing Khan?

    I just cannot see that. He needs the KO and I don't think
    he will get it!

    BTW, the HOP example with Pav is IMO not at all
    an accurate view to how MAB could beat Khan.

    HOP is a real clever vet and Pavlik very hittable and one
    dimensional with no real speed. Khan is blindingly fast and
    that will be MABs biggest problem

    Actually yes, do you envisage Khan out boxing MAB for 12 rounds....

    MAB is one durable MOFO and he is a very clever fighter. Also look back at previous Khan fights you do not need to have massive KO power to hurt him. Prescott ROCKED khan with a JAB.

    I can see MAB wearing Khan out and stopping him late..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    MAB taking this for money is ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Actually yes, do you envisage Khan out boxing MAB for 12 rounds....

    MAB is one durable MOFO and he is a very clever fighter. Also look back at previous Khan fights you do not need to have massive KO power to hurt him. Prescott ROCKED khan with a JAB.

    I can see MAB wearing Khan out and stopping him late..

    You know what, if it does happen, like I said, Khan should QUIT!

    Getting worn down by a man who is very ring worn and has had
    so many tough bouts, well; Khan should definitely
    throw his hat at it. The biggest thing here is the size
    difference and it's in Khan's favor.

    All Khan's opponents to date except Bredis have all been
    smaller and all well beaten really, with a couple of scary
    moments; now, none as famous or as good as MAB; but
    MAB will be Khan's 'smallest' opponent.

    I just cannot see MAB being able to impose himself
    enough offensively and he will probably be in
    survival mode for most of this fight; unless of course he
    gets a KO!

    BTW, I see khan winning by either way, KO or decision.

    MAB I feel needs the KO!

    Taking it for money is ridiculous?

    Why? He's hardly doing it for NOTHING?

    It is a business after all. He deserves a pay day and wants a pay day!

    Most of the bookies have MAB as the favorite, only slightly!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    You know what, if it does happen, like I said, Khan should QUIT!

    Getting worn down by a man who is very ring worn and has had
    so many tough bouts, well; Khan should definitely
    throw his hat at it. The biggest thing here is the size
    difference and it's in Khan's favor.

    All Khan's opponents to date except Bredis have all been
    smaller and all well beaten really, with a couple of scary
    moments; now, none as famous or as good as MAB; but
    MAB will be Khan's 'smallest' opponent.

    I just cannot see MAB being able to impose himself
    enough offensively and he will probably be in
    survival mode for most of this fight; unless of course he
    gets a KO!

    BTW, I see khan winning by either way, KO or decision.

    MAB I feel needs the KO!

    Taking it for money is ridiculous?

    Why? He's hardly doing it for NOTHING?

    It is a business after all. He deserves a pay day and wants a pay day!

    Most of the bookies have MAB as the favorite, only slightly!


    No need to be juvenile of course he is getting paid.

    "It is a business after all. He deserves a pay day and wants a pay day!"

    That is one of the most condescending sentences I have ever read, speaking about a HOF'er like to is some young buck. MAB has had many pay days, If memory server even the Rocky Juarez fight was PPV and he was signed with GBP and was also rumored to have a share of the company.

    It is well known that MAB wants to be the first Mexican to become a 4 weight world champion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    If Barrera can take Khans shots and bring him into a battle I dont think Khan could handle the pressure. What does he do against a guy who just keeps coming, and in a smart way.

    Khan is obviouly way faster and bigger. Its excellent match making and when i first heard of it I thought it was taking advantage of a smaller fighter who was in too many wars and too far past it. Not unlike Michael Gomez.

    Theres a world of difference between mab and gomez. At their peaks and now also. So if a shot Gomez could get some decent shots at Khan and have him in trouble at times, surely Barrera can do the same type of job only better.

    Opinions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,370 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    joepenguin wrote: »
    If Barrera can take Khans shots and bring him into a battle I dont think Khan could handle the pressure. What does he do against a guy who just keeps coming, and in a smart way.

    Khan is obviouly way faster and bigger. Its excellent match making and when i first heard of it I thought it was taking advantage of a smaller fighter who was in too many wars and too far past it. Not unlike Michael Gomez.

    Theres a world of difference between mab and gomez. At their peaks and now also. So if a shot Gomez could get some decent shots at Khan and have him in trouble at times, surely Barrera can do the same type of job only better.

    Opinions?

    actually when you put it that way about Gomez. I think Barerra has a chance with all his wily experience. Still Khan is very fast and physicially bigger so he could well wear out Barerra who is past his best. I'd favour Barerra if he had more power in punches because he's still good enough to trouble Khan early on who would buckle because of his glass jaw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,549 ✭✭✭✭cowzerp


    Seen wayne mccullogh yesterday, he's convinced MAB will KO Khan and thinks its a stupid fight for khan to take!

    got my pic with him and bernard, good pic! much better than autographs..

    Rush Boxing club and Rush Martial Arts head coach.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Just looking at the rankings there. Barrera is ranked 1st with the wbo and 4th with the wba. So this puts Khan right in line for a shot at Nate Cambell. Dont think he'd take it first thing though. Im sure Cambell will have to part with one of the belts at some stage.

    Another thing is Barrera wanted his next bout in January to be for the vacant wbo interim title but the wbo wouldnt sanction it because his opponent wasnt ranked highly enough. Khan is ranked #9.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    No need to be juvenile of course he is getting paid.

    "It is a business after all. He deserves a pay day and wants a pay day!"

    That is one of the most condescending sentences I have ever read, speaking about a HOF'er like to is some young buck. MAB has had many pay days, If memory server even the Rocky Juarez fight was PPV and he was signed with GBP and was also rumored to have a share of the company.

    It is well known that MAB wants to be the first Mexican to become a 4 weight world champion.
    What, and beating Khan catapults him into line for his 4th title?

    If you want to believe it's NOTHING to do with money, so be it:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Dude, stop being ridiculous. Of course every fighter wants the money, but MAB is a true ring warrior a legend in the sport. He is one dude I would never accuse of taking a fight just for the money.

    He has more in the bank than most.

    I really hope Marco has 25% of what he had and waxes that schmuck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Dude, stop being ridiculous. Of course every fighter wants the money, but MAB is a true ring warrior a legend in the sport. He is one dude I would never accuse of taking a fight just for the money.

    He has more in the bank than most.

    I really hope Marco has 25% of what he had and waxes that schmuck.

    This talk of has enough money I don't buy. Some of these fellas never have enough; just like Alex Ferguson at UTD; they just cannot turn down the cash; and I don't blame them!

    Same with Wayne. Why the hell is he still wanting to fight and why is his wife still part of it?
    Is it because he and she are just so passionate about the game?:rolleyes: Pass me the bucket!

    I said money had a lot to do with it; you said it didn't. I think you are being rather naive!
    MAB is going to be paid nicely to fight Khan and that is a huge reason why he's doing it!

    Why is Khan a schmuck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    This talk of has enough money I don't buy. Some of these fellas never have enough; just like Alex Ferguson at UTD; they just cannot turn down the cash; and I don't blame them!

    Same with Wayne. Why the hell is he still wanting to fight and why is his wife still part of it?
    Is it because he and she are just so passionate about the game?:rolleyes: Pass me the bucket!

    I said money had a lot to do with it; you said it didn't. I think you are being rather naive!
    MAB is going to be paid nicely to fight Khan and that is a huge reason why he's doing it!

    Why is Khan a schmuck?

    Comparing MAB to Wayne is utterly ridiculous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Good argument!:rolleyes:

    Ok, lets NOT compare them. MAB is taking the fight for a number
    of reasons and a major reason is the MONEY!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    BTW, I am really looking forward to this bout. It is a very tasty bout with two very fine fighters. MAB will without doubt be Amir's greatest TEST, apart from Bredis:D.

    If Marco had the punch; I would back him here. I don't think he will KO Khan. He will
    hurt him, but when Marco tastes Khan's flush shots, he too will be hurt.

    Volume will be the winner here I feel. Khan's VOLUME!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭septern


    ya, I think its the unknowns that make this fight really interesting.

    Has Kahn learnt from his loss, applied himself better in training and worked on his defense?

    Has Barrera still got enough left in the tank?

    I'm looking forward to it anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Good argument!:rolleyes:

    Ok, lets NOT compare them. MAB is taking the fight for a number
    of reasons and a major reason is the MONEY!

    MAB and Wayne could not be more different. We have all heard the rumors about Wayne fighting on and the influence of his wife. MAB's career earnings would dwarf the Rockets. MAB was a dominant fighter Unfortunately Wayne was not.

    You are acting like an idiot, How do you know MAB's main reason is the money. You don't.

    It is well known that MAB wants to be the first 4 weight champion from Mexico. This was also a dream of Morales and brought him back to the ring.


    BTW, Wayne is one of my favorite boxers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    So me thinking MAB might be taking the bout for money is me being an idiot?:rolleyes:

    Look, I know you are trying your darnest to try and start some sort of flame war.

    It won't work.

    Hmm, sports athletes and boxers fighting for money is so ludicrous isn't it?:rolleyes:

    Oh, and over the hill and faded boxers fighting for money? How idiotic of me!:rolleyes:

    Just because someone may be wealthy doesn't mean they still do not
    want more. Greed and passion for money does exist in this world you know.

    Ali was a prime example of a fighter who loved the sport just like MAB; but
    Ali and his team and hangers on just couldn't turn down the temptation and lure
    of big bucks. I'd be the exact same, as would many!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    You stated the main reason for MAB taking this fight was the money.

    How do you know that ? You do not. I would suggest that MAB has a goal a dream if you will to be a 4 weight champion. That also exist you know. Just because the guy is wealthy doesn't mean he is content with what he has achieved on a sporting level that is what makes true champions - They always want more..

    What are you talking about flame war - I am simply disagreeing with you on this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Disagreeing?


    "You are acting like an idiot, How do you know MAB's main reason is the money. You don't."


    Strange way to disagree. Yes, the main reason IMO is money. You said it's to win a 4th title. Fighting and beating a 22 year old non rated fighter is the way to catapult yourself
    to contention? Gimme a break. Now, I could have been an ass and called you an idiot; but what would that achieve?

    Holy sh1t, I said it was my view that money was the main reason. It's not a definite; just a strong possibility. I bet the pay is very good though.

    I can't bring MAB to court to prove my view. This is not an exact science.

    I also guess that Wayne is still wanting to fight for money; can I prove it? No!

    And I do see the difference between MAB and Wayne. I'm just using Wayne
    as another more EXTREME example of the issue.

    Why do you always insist on some sort of definitive PROOF?

    The MAIN reason today that any man steps between the ropes is FOR MONEY!

    And more so when that man is past it and faded! He's hardly doing it for the good
    of his health; again, just my view; sorry I can't go to court to PROVE this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I'm not disagreeing with you on Wayne, that is why I said they couldn't be more different, I fail to understand why he still wants to fight...


    But if you come out with a statement like the the money is the main reason MAB is taking this fight it is up to you to back that up

    I have already stated why I think he took the fight and why he is still fighting and IMO a much more plausible reason


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    I'm not disagreeing with you on Wayne, that is why I said they couldn't be more different, I fail to understand why he still wants to fight...


    But if you come out with a statement like the the money is the main reason MAB is taking this fight it is up to you to back that up

    I have already stated why I think he took the fight and why he is still fighting and IMO a much more plausible reason
    Up to me to back that up?

    Is this an exact science? Am I missing something?

    You said that he wants to win a 4th title. Ok, go win it!

    Fighting Khan in Britain on PPV (likely); this to me is glaring!

    Again, proof in situations like this is not realistic. I bet
    MAB was approached. Khan was no way on Marco's radar.

    Why would he be. Think about it! What or how does beating a guy who
    is considered a real weak chinned non rated fighter do to elevate
    oneself to a 4th title???

    It's a nice payday for Marco against a guy he probably sees
    as a man he can KO. A man not even considered in the States!

    You fail to understand why Wayne continues to fight?

    Are you serious? He continues to fight because it pays and he makes money.

    Why else? And why else does his wife encourage it; at least she did as far
    as I knew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Up to me to back that up?

    Is this an exact science? Am I missing something?

    You said that he wants to win a 4th title. Ok, go win it!

    Fighting Khan in Britain on PPV (likely); this to me is glaring!

    Again, proof in situations like this is not realistic. I bet
    MAB was approached. Khan was no way on Marco's radar.

    Why would he be. Think about it! What or how does beating a guy who
    is considered a real weak chinned non rated fighter do to elevate
    oneself to a 4th title???

    It's a nice payday for Marco against a guy he probably sees
    as a man he can KO. A man not even considered in the States!

    You fail to understand why Wayne continues to fight?

    Are you serious? He continues to fight because it pays and he makes money.

    Why else? And why else does his wife encourage it; at least she did as far
    as I knew!

    MAB sees Khan as a stepping stone - he is a name at lightweight a bigger name that MABs previous lightweight opponent. It's not like MAB has never fought PPV before most of his fights are PPV.

    As for Wayne - we have all heard the rumors about his wife and her encouragement for him to fight on. When I say I cannot understand why he fights on - it is because he works for the UFC and he has a successful gym in Vagas. I cannot see the logic in him fighting on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    MAB sees Khan as a stepping stone - he is a name at lightweight a bigger name that MABs previous lightweight opponent. It's not like MAB has never fought PPV before most of his fights are PPV.

    As for Wayne - we have all heard the rumors about his wife and her encouragement for him to fight on. When I say I cannot understand why he fights on - it is because he works for the UFC and he has a successful gym in Vagas. I cannot see the logic in him fighting on.

    Well, IMO, it's a no brainer. There is money to be made.

    Like I said, I don't buy the whole 'he/she is not doing it for the money' crap.

    Like the Million dollar man said, "Everybody has a price."

    The footballers, boxers, snooker players, basket ballers', everyone is lured by money in some way and even the most loyal will be swayed and tempted. Footballers being a great example. Moving from one club to another, when originally maintaining their
    devoted loyalty etc etc. Money talks and in boxing it is very hard for a man to turn down pay days; even when he doesn't necessarily need the cash. It's like a drug, the SPORT and the money!

    I would love to know how much MAB is getting for this bout. I would say a lot!

    Hey, all these guys like Jones, Toney, Holyfield. Why are they still competing?
    Holy's child maintenance is rumored to be 500k a year I heard!

    MAB is not quite at their late stage; but he still has to know deep down that
    he is far from the worlds best. He has to! As long as there are managers and promoters
    throwing money at them; the harder it is to resist and give up!

    The other glaring difference I see is that the boxers have to really suffer to make money.
    Other sports stars do not, and can rely on team mates to alleviate some of their troubles.

    Boxers are being hurt and are risking their lives every time they step
    into the ring. No way are they doing this out of JUST LOVE of the sport!

    The funniest is the PRO golf scene for the Seniors. Guys making huge amounts
    of money playing golf when they are in their 60's and 70's. It's ludicrous.
    Why? Well, because the money is so good. A lot of these old men are making
    a lot more than the actual pros on the circuit!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    "It's not like MAB has never fought PPV before most of his fights are PPV.
    "

    Exactly; isn't that what I am saying. He has fought PPV and he knows well it's very
    good money. He'd be mad to turn it down!


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