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Night Vision permits?? How many have'em? -Were you refused?

  • 15-01-2009 6:44am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone here on boards successfully acquired garda approval to use night vision scope or add-on on a firearm.


    I dont need one! i just want it because i like hunting and this would allow me to hunt better!!

    I intend to buy one when i figure out which one i want. I want it for foxing and bunny feasting-Why-well it would defo increase the auld success rate and TBH it sound like a great bit of kit that could provide hours of entertainment.

    I suppose it would make for safer shooting with its increased visibility and increased species recognition.

    I find that shinning a bright lightforce light around fields at night can easily disturb live stock which in turn disturb farmers wifes etc etc and so on and so on until the shooter eventually gets it in the ear. The light seems to effect cattle more than the shooting!!!:confused:

    Also how many clowns have shot at the first pair of eyes they have seen..

    Any thought on this.

    PS I would also want one which is illuminated with both standard IR LEDs and the further reaching brighter IR laser with variable focusing. I suppose I'd have to apply for the IR laser as well as the NVE. WDYT?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Jonty


    Get a lightforce with a dimmer and use a filter to kill the beam. NV Scopes are not worth the hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭fish slapped


    Pardon my ignorance but I didn't know Garda approval was needed for any type of scope.:eek::eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,070 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    Firstly night vision (decent night vision) is very expensive.
    secondly....Why do you need night vision a lamp is very capable of doing the job expecially with a dimmer switch.

    I use a filter on my lamp so I dont annoy cattle and I dont lamp peoples houses.

    In relation to people who shoot the first pair of eyes, using nv you still have to have positive id before shooting and the image through the nv scope can sometimes be distroted so its not the panacea.

    I have nv binoculars and they are ok, but still gimmicky for shooting and prefer 100% the lamp.

    If your that obsessed about getting the fox try making a tactical nuke, its control of population here not extermination.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    A proper one which is actually better than the conventional lamp, costs a fortune.

    More power to you ivan if you get one and do it above board and legitimately but imho they're not worth the money.

    Most are only ok quality wise and from my research they need powerful IR illuminators in some form or other to work at any decent distance (laser, lamp with IR filter material, IR LED). Ah I see by your edit you are aware of this. Good stuff

    These work the same as a conventional lamp (lighting up the eyes of any animal they hit) so the comment
    Also how many clowns have shot at the first pair of eyes they have seen..
    Doesn't really make any sense because both methods work the same way.

    Generally I do a little trip before lamping so I know if there is livestock in the fields I intend to lamp. The odd time when a farmer has moved livestock after my spin out I find cattle are not spooked by the light. Horses in my experience are not fond of it one bit (so I try to avoid them at all costs) and night vision would be a great help here.

    Would you not go for a compromise Ivan. A hand held monocular, with powerful IR source for scanning and a conventional lamping rig using as little light as possible for the shot.

    This way you wont spook any unexpected livestock you come across with a full lamp. Also (could be wrong here if the wildlife act prohibits it for fox) you wouldn't need any permissions and the set up is much much cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,393 ✭✭✭✭Vegeta


    I have nv binoculars and they are ok, but still gimmicky for shooting and prefer 100% the lamp.

    What brand you got CS.

    Do you use any sort of external IR source?

    Veg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Pardon my ignorance but I didn't know Garda approval was needed for any type of scope.:eek::eek:
    Any night vision scope or sights which emit a light source (normally taken to mean laser sights) need authorisation from the Superintendent (in fact, the law says they're firearms themselves and need the same licencing, but operational practicality means that authorisations are how this is normally done). There are a few things caught under this rule - moderators are the other main thing most people have to worry about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,612 ✭✭✭jwshooter


    Sparks wrote: »
    Any night vision scope or sights which emit a light source (normally taken to mean laser sights) need authorisation from the Superintendent (in fact, the law says they're firearms themselves and need the same licencing, but operational practicality means that authorisations are how this is normally done). There are a few things caught under this rule - moderators are the other main thing most people have to worry about.

    were night vision on sale in a well known german store s .the super could be a busy man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,570 ✭✭✭Rovi


    Handheld night vision stuff is fine, but night vision equipment designed to be mounted on a firearm needs authorisation/licencing in the same way as sound moderators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    And it's fine for the retailer to sell it to you - you're the one committing the crime if you buy it. It's like the metal detectors in Maplin; they're open for sale to the public, but if you're caught with one without a licence, you're breaking the law...


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