What am I?

Tawny · 13-01-2009 8:44pm #1

Firstly, AH might not be the place for this...

but here we go...

I'm from Northern Ireland, and since living in the RoI (and reading boards) I have become more and more unsure of who I am.

When I lived in NI, I was Irish.

I went to a catholic school, I learned Irish, I was taught Irish (and a little N.Irish/British) history, I went to the Gaelteacht, I went 'down south' for every summer, every bank holiday, and basically every family day-out.

I lived in England for a bit, and I was Irish over there...

But now that I'm in the RoI I'm not?

Why do tons of people in Ireland see me as not Irish?

And why have the vast majority of people from the RoI (I have met so far) not ventured 'up north'? I know more staunch protestants from NI who have visited the RoI than people from the RoI who have been 'up North' ?

davyjose · 13-01-2009 8:45pm

You're Irish, get over it ... bloody attention seekers :rolleyes:

Quazzie · 13-01-2009 8:46pm

You're Irish and don't let anyone tell ya different. If they do just start answering them as Gaeilge and that'll teach 'em.

abi2007 · 13-01-2009 8:47pm

Definatly Irish.. don't you know in our heads we still own those six counties

Biggins · 13-01-2009 8:48pm

You're Irish - 'nuff said.

syklops · 13-01-2009 8:48pm

If you replaced every mention of Northern Ireland with America, you would have your answer. Various american cousins of mine went to catholic school, learnt Irish, went to the gaeltacht, did Irish dancing in school, know more about Irish History than I do, but do I consider them irish. No, their my mad american cousins with the Irish-fetish.

As for you, I would consider you Northern Irish.

Professey Chin · 13-01-2009 8:49pm

A Towel

Villain · 13-01-2009 8:50pm

You're Catholic

TheZohanS · 13-01-2009 8:53pm

You're British. I know it might be an unpopular post but it's true.

I go on holidays to Spain quite a bit but it doesn't make me Spanish.

Pride Fighter · 13-01-2009 8:53pm

Tawny wrote: »

Why do tons of people in Ireland see me as not Irish?

And why have the vast majority of people from the RoI (I have met so far) not ventured 'up north'? I know more staunch protestants from NI who have visited the RoI than people from the RoI who have been 'up North' ?

These people are what is known as West Brits. You are more Irish than they will ever be.

Vain · 13-01-2009 8:54pm

Your a he/she basically a confused person. So you can settle on having a English body and a Irish soul.

Plug · 13-01-2009 8:55pm

jew!

abi2007 · 13-01-2009 8:56pm

Vain wrote: »

Your a he/she basically a confused person. So you can settle on having a English body and a Irish soul.

Of Irish decent..

Jumpy · 13-01-2009 8:57pm

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

A Towel

You're a towel.

davyjose · 13-01-2009 8:58pm

TheZohan wrote: »

You're British. I know it might be an unpopular post but it's true.

I go on holidays to Spain quite a bit but it doesn't make me Spanish.

Right so let me ask you, where exactly is Britain? Don't tell me your one of those d!ckheads who doesn't realise that Britain doesn't include NI?

Sharpshooter · 13-01-2009 8:59pm

You're a confused Irish catholic , there's a lot of us about.;)

abi2007 · 13-01-2009 8:59pm

Add a poll.. I don't know how to do it

mickos · 13-01-2009 9:02pm

Your Irish like all of us who had the good fortune to be born on the island of Ireland. Don't let them tell you any different;)

TheZohanS · 13-01-2009 9:03pm

davyjose wrote: »

Right so let me ask you, where exactly is Britain? Don't tell me your one of those d!ckheads who doesn't realise that Britain doesn't include NI?

The OP is from the United Kingdom so s/he is British.

DeCoR18 · 13-01-2009 9:04pm

You're Irish, any ***** that tell you otherwise tell them to **** off to England where they belong.

Quazzie · 13-01-2009 9:04pm

Ireland is the island and Eire and Northern Ireland are the countries on it. Anybody who things differenet is a dickhead!

davyjose · 13-01-2009 9:05pm

TheZohan wrote: »

My apologies, the OP is from the United Kingdom.

But also from Ireland

LEIN · 13-01-2009 9:05pm

Irish through to the bone!

biko · 13-01-2009 9:05pm

All taigs are Irish

half pint · 13-01-2009 9:06pm

There are a few people in my college course who are from different parts of Africa. They were born there raised there and then moved to Ireland. They for some reason concider themselves Irish

If they can be Irish then so can you

DeCoR18 · 13-01-2009 9:07pm

half pint wrote: »

There are a few people in my college course who are from different parts of Africa. They were born there raised there and then moved to Ireland. They for some reason concider themselves Irish

If they can be Irish then so can you

Probably some weird form of politeless I'd guess.

Abi · 13-01-2009 9:07pm

Tawny wrote: »

Why do tons of people in Ireland see me as not Irish?

Well maybe you dont believe it, for a start. Why would you say 'Ireland' if you are in Ireland?

I think people of Northern Ireland are Irish, irrespective of religon. But it remains defined by rule and currency.

DeCoR18 · 13-01-2009 9:08pm

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

Ireland is the island and Eire and Northern Ireland are the countries on it. Anybody who things differenet is a dickhead!

So presumably when I move into the house you own you won't make any complaints, as otherwise I'd be tempted to call you a dickhead.

TheZohanS · 13-01-2009 9:08pm

Tawny wrote: »

Firstly, AH might not be the place for this...

but here we go...

I'm from Northern Ireland, and since living in the RoI (and reading boards) I have become more and more unsure of who I am.

When I lived in NI, I was Irish.

I went to a catholic school, I learned Irish, I was taught Irish (and a little N.Irish/British) history, I went to the Gaelteacht, I went 'down south' for every summer, every bank holiday, and basically every family day-out.

I lived in England for a bit, and I was Irish over there...

But now that I'm in the RoI I'm not?

Why do tons of people in Ireland see me as not Irish?

And why have the vast majority of people from the RoI (I have met so far) not ventured 'up north'? I know more staunch protestants from NI who have visited the RoI than people from the RoI who have been 'up North' ?

Look at your passport, that will tell you.;)

galwayrush · 13-01-2009 9:08pm

Being from N.Ireland, you can be Irish or British. You're choice.
A friend of mine from East Belfast lost his passport and needed one fast so he got an Irish one as the UK office would have taken too long. Now he is more confused than you are.:D

Quazzie · 13-01-2009 9:10pm

He didn't move here from another island. He was born on this island called Ireland and therefore is Irish. How that relates to my house I would love to know.

DeCoR18 · 13-01-2009 9:13pm

Quazzie2002 wrote: »

He didn't move here from another island. He was born on this island called Ireland and therefore is Irish. How that relates to my house I would love to know.

I actually misread your post there. Apologies.

Anyway Northern Ireland should not be recognised as a country, and Ireland should never of removed the territorial clame to NI from the constitution.

0utshined · 13-01-2009 9:16pm

Tawny wrote: »

I'm from Northern Ireland,

You are a Nordie.

Piste · 13-01-2009 9:16pm

Technically: you're from the UK, so Ukish

Culturally: I'd say you're Irish.

Quazzie · 13-01-2009 9:18pm

Piste wrote: »

Technically: you're from the UK, so Ukish

Culturally: I'd say you're Irish.

Considering you just made up the work UKish I doubt thats "Technically" true

tony 2 tone · 13-01-2009 9:21pm

Tawny wrote: »

Firstly, AH might not be the place for this...

but here we go...

I'm from Northern Ireland, and since living in the RoI (and reading boards) I have become more and more unsure of who I am.

When I lived in NI, I was Irish.

I went to a catholic school, I learned Irish, I was taught Irish (and a little N.Irish/British) history, I went to the Gaelteacht, I went 'down south' for every summer, every bank holiday, and basically every family day-out.

I lived in England for a bit, and I was Irish over there...

But now that I'm in the RoI I'm not?

Why do tons of people in Ireland see me as not Irish?

And why have the vast majority of people from the RoI (I have met so far) not ventured 'up north'? I know more staunch protestants from NI who have visited the RoI than people from the RoI who have been 'up North' ?

Stop calling it the RoI and just say Ireland and they might stop :P

Piste · 13-01-2009 9:21pm

Well what's the correct word? Is Northern Irish a nationality in the same way Welsh or Scots is? If it is then s/he's that.

javaboy · 13-01-2009 9:22pm

OP are you any good at football?

Pride Fighter · 13-01-2009 9:23pm

Piste wrote: »

Well what's the correct word? Is Northern Irish a nationality in the same way Welsh or Scots is? If it is then s/he's that.

Northern Irish is not a nationality it is 2/3rds of a province.

TheZohanS · 13-01-2009 9:25pm

davyjose wrote: »

Right so let me ask you, where exactly is Britain? Don't tell me your one of those d!ckheads who doesn't realise that Britain doesn't include NI?

Ooohhh actually you don't have to be from Britain to be British.

But I suppose you already knew that.

Anyone from the UK is technically British.

Mal-Adjusted · 13-01-2009 9:26pm

look at it this way, your'e in the position of claiming either Irish or British citizenship, so really, it's whatever you consider yourself to be. if you fancy yourself as irish (and you were born on the Island, or of Irish parents) then that pretty much makes you Irish:D

Don't mind the backwards socally retarded people who try to tell you otherwise:rolleyes:

indough · 13-01-2009 9:27pm

northern ireland is a nation though is it not? surely northern irish is a nationality then?

phenomenon · 13-01-2009 9:30pm

Go home Nordie!!
Trying to claim OUR language and nationality

chosen1 · 13-01-2009 9:42pm

Haven't heard anyone that claims people from Northern Ireland are British argue that there were no Irish between 1800 and 1922 cause we all were ruled directly from the British parliament.
Or Austrians or Poles etc during German occupation. Someone explain?

indough · 13-01-2009 9:43pm

chosen1 wrote: »

Haven't heard anyone that claims people from Northern Ireland are British argue that there were no Irish between 1800 and 1922 cause we all were ruled directly from the British parliament.
Or Austrians or Poles etc during German occupation. Someone explain?

was the country not called ireland then though? if so, they would have been called irish regardless of their ruler, as is the case with your examples

Piste · 13-01-2009 9:51pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Northern Irish is not a nationality it is 2/3rds of a province.

Is there an adjective from someone from Northern Ireland, like a Scottish person is from Scotland, even though it's not it's own nation?

davyjose · 13-01-2009 9:53pm

TheZohan wrote: »

Anyone from the UK is technically British.

Wrong again Zohan. Anyone from the island of Britain is British, anyone from the Island of Ireland is Irish. You've been watchin too much BBC.

spinaltap · 13-01-2009 9:55pm

" what am I "
Bloody confused Id say

chosen1 · 13-01-2009 10:05pm

was the country not called ireland then though? if so, they would have been called irish regardless of their ruler, as is the case with your examples

How would Northern Ireland fit into the British tag then? Could argue they are Northern Irish but the north is still in Ireland.

TheZohanS · 13-01-2009 10:06pm

davyjose wrote: »

Wrong again Zohan. Anyone from the island of Britain is British, anyone from the Island of Ireland is Irish. You've been watchin too much BBC.

So is this wrong then?

British people, or Britons,[19] are citizens of the United Kingdom, of the Isle of Man, one of the Channel Islands, or of one of the British overseas territories, or a specific group or tribe of peoples who settled the island of Great Britain and their descendants[20][21] In a historical context, the word is used to refer to the ancient Britons, the indigenous inhabitants of Great Britain south of the Forth. Contemporary Britons are descended mainly from the varied ethnic stocks that settled there before the 11th century. The pre-Celtic, Celtic, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, and Norse influences were blended in Britain under the Normans, Scandinavian Vikings who had lived in Northern France.[22] Since the 19th century, and particularly since the mid-20th century, there has also been migration into the United Kingdom by people from the Commonwealth, other parts of Europe and elsewhere; they and their descendants are mostly British citizens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_people

indough · 13-01-2009 10:08pm

im not arguing theyre british, but ireland isnt technically the name of a (current) nation is it (more the name of the land mass the two nations are on)? so is irish the correct term?

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