gatso van @ ucd road 23:30 12/01

knuth

Just seen one of these new vans on the UCD road heading into Town.

Snow white in colour with Garda Siochanna & Speed Cameras stickers stuck to the van. It was placed on the side of the road, quite visible from a distance.

Tipsy Mac

lordlame wrote: »

Just seen one of these new vans on the UCD road heading into Town.

Snow white in colour with Garda Siochanna & Speed Cameras stickers stuck to the van. It was placed on the side of the road, quite visible from a distance.

Great to see them working their magic on a major accident blackspot, makes me proud to pay taxes.

Seth Brundle

I saw them on the quays in Dublin outside Guinnesses last week at 11:50pm.
Pity I didn't see them on time!

Bandara

here's a good one, driving down the ballymun road past the DCU enterance there's a white Gatso parked in the bus lane, about 600 METERS past it theres ANOTHER one parked again in the bus lane.

I though I was seeing things so I spun the car around and pulled in on the opposite side of the road (its a 4 lane road and is a 50 zone!)

Sure enough both vans lights were going off every minute of 2 catching cars, i'd say some of them were done twice

:eek:

kippy

Hammertime wrote: »

here's a good one, driving down the ballymun road past the DCU enterance there's a white Gatso parked in the bus lane, about 600 METERS past it theres ANOTHER one parked again in the bus lane.

I though I was seeing things so I spun the car around and pulled in on the opposite side of the road (its a 4 lane road and is a 50 zone!)

Sure enough both vans lights were going off every minute of 2 catching cars, i'd say some of them were done twice

:eek:

That is a disgrace.....
If only they used this equipment properly where it is actually needed.
Kippy

mvpr

Where exactly did you see the van on the UCD road? Could have sworn I saw a flash just at Donnybrook bus depot, doing bout 45-50 mph....

TheNog

Hammertime wrote: »

here's a good one, driving down the ballymun road past the DCU enterance there's a white Gatso parked in the bus lane, about 600 METERS past it theres ANOTHER one parked again in the bus lane.

I though I was seeing things so I spun the car around and pulled in on the opposite side of the road (its a 4 lane road and is a 50 zone!)

Sure enough both vans lights were going off every minute of 2 catching cars, i'd say some of them were done twice

:eek:

That must be a mistake. No way should it be allowed. If it was a setup then its out of order.

preilly79

kbannon wrote: »

I saw them on the quays in Dublin outside Guinnesses last week at 11:50pm.
Pity I didn't see them on time!

I think they got me too at the same time!

5500

kbannon wrote: »

I saw them on the quays in Dublin outside Guinnesses last week at 11:50pm.
Pity I didn't see them on time!

X3 for the same time!i did a lap to make sure it was actually them because i'd never seen a van out at night before

antodeco

Ill have to keep an eye out for all these now at night. 8 points, so need to be careful!

The gatso was parked at that location near Guinness on two nights last night. It was around 7 pm or so, and on both occasions I went past it somebody behind me got caught.

Looks like they the night time operation capability of the new vans is being well used.

robbie99

I saw the one outside Guinnesses Wednesday night last week. The following night one was on the Chapelizod bypass heading west.

Do they actually flash when they catch you like the fixed cameras do?

It was like a friggin fireworks at the keys behind me so they do flash.

robbie99

samih wrote: »

It was like a friggin fireworks at the keys behind me so they do flash.

Oh great, thanks for that!

copacetic

lordlame wrote: »

Just seen one of these new vans on the UCD road heading into Town.

Snow white in colour with Garda Siochanna & Speed Cameras stickers stuck to the van. It was placed on the side of the road, quite visible from a distance.

was it parked at the esb substation before the start of the off ramp to UCD?
Saw one there before christmas, no stickers on it at the time though. Seems to be a new favourite easy target spot for them as well as the one on the far side.

Paparazzo

For 8 years I commuted the N2 between Dublin and Ashbourne, it was the second most dangerous stretch of road in the country. Amount of gatso vans I saw in that time? zero!

Savman

Paparazzo wrote: »

For 8 years I commuted the N2 between Dublin and Ashbourne, it was the second most dangerous stretch of road in the country. Amount of gatso vans I saw in that time? zero!

IIRC the N2 is a McD's-free zone.




/runs away

5500

robbie99 wrote: »

I saw the one outside Guinnesses Wednesday night last week. The following night one was on the Chapelizod bypass heading west.

Do they actually flash when they catch you like the fixed cameras do?

I didnt notice a flash while passing it,when i went back around for a second look you could clearly see the lads watching a large screen in the front of the van that appeared very clear,so i dont think there is a flash

melbourne

Right, the white gatso van has been parking on the left hand side of the N11, city bound, around 400meters past the turn off for RTE (NUTLEY LANE). Can this camera van take photo's at night? I know I went by it at a fair old pace about 22.30 last Friday night.

RandomAccess

Any electronics boffins out there that could whip up a mobile EMP generator?
Just need an old van thats got no electronics. Drive by and fry the bastards.

Seth Brundle

melbourne wrote: »

Right, the white gatso van has been parking on the left hand side of the N11, city bound, around 400meters past the turn off for RTE (NUTLEY LANE). Can this camera van take photo's at night? I know I went by it at a fair old pace about 22.30 last Friday night.

They can take pics at night

craiginireland

RandomAccess wrote: »

Any electronics boffins out there that could whip up a mobile EMP generator?
Just need an old van thats got no electronics. Drive by and fry the bastards.

For doing there job? Very mature!

Preset No.3

1.30am on Bushy Park Road last week. 2 uniform guys standing at the side of the road with the speed gun. Bearing in mind this was a monday or tuesday night and the was zero traffic on the road, damn they mustve been bored.

Lads stand where its needed. Not on the stillorgan dual carraigeway or the rock road or somewhere simple like that. And the Garda wonder why the ordinary decent member of the public has lost respect for them!

RandomAccess

craiginireland wrote: »

For doing there job? Very mature!

Eh? I'm talking about knocking out their toy.. take a moment to understand a post before you comment.

Gatso cameras and vans are a pointless exercise which won't make Irish roads any safer and will generate resentment towards the Gardai.
They also distract drivers needlessly and cause people to brake as a first reaction, often unnecessarily.

Having these associated with the Guards is a disgrace.

craiginireland

RandomAccess wrote: »

Eh? I'm talking about knocking out their toy.. take a moment to understand a post before you comment.

Gatso cameras and vans are a pointless exercise which won't make Irish roads any safer and will generate resentment towards the Gardai.
They also distract drivers needlessly and cause people to brake as a first reaction, often unnecessarily.

Having these associated with the Guards is a disgrace.

Sounds like you've been caught!

If even one life is saved cos some idiot didn't plough his car into another car because he thought he saw a gatso van and slowed down then every cent is worth it.

Preset No.3

Had to log on just to post. They were there again tonight. Just across the road from Rathdown Motors. Well done lads, you must be fierce proud of yourselves, walking all that way from the station to nab a few people going a couple of kms over the speed limit!!

Before anyone give me the 'its the law' and 'they are only doing their job' ****e, dont bother. Walking 500 metres away from your station and waiting on people to drive past at this time on a tuesday night isnt really doing your job! I didnt see any speed checks on that road over Xmas. Seriously is that the best you can do? Is there no where else that might warrant attention on the roads? Whatever shread of respect I have for the uniform and what it stands for, Im losing it very quickly.

RandomAccess

craiginireland wrote: »

Sounds like you've been caught!

If even one life is saved cos some idiot didn't plough his car into another car because he thought he saw a gatso van and slowed down then every cent is worth it.

I've not been caught, but I have no desire to linger in the blindspot of an articulated lorry which I may be overtaking. I can see many situations where these devices will catch people out unfairly.

As for your other statement.. it sounds like you are agreeing with me that these devices are a distraction to drivers and can cause them to panic brake.. but I expect thats not what you meant.

For your statement to have the meaning you intended, every driver in the country would have to drive below the speed limit because they are in constant fear of gatso vans.. and thats just not going to happen.

craiginireland

If you don't speed then you've nothing to worry about. These machines have a tolerance so if your going to do 51 in a 50 you'll be ok.


Also when your overtaking it doesn't give you automatic right to break the speed limit.

Trying to blame the gardai because you break the law is very Irish.

RandomAccess wrote: »

I've not been caught, but I have no desire to linger in the blindspot of an articulated lorry which I may be overtaking. I can see many situations where these devices will catch people out unfairly.

As for your other statement.. it sounds like you are agreeing with me that these devices are a distraction to drivers and can cause them to panic brake.. but I expect thats not what you meant.

For your statement to have the meaning you intended, every driver in the country would have to drive below the speed limit because they are in constant fear of gatso vans.. and thats just not going to happen.

RandomAccess

craiginireland wrote: »

If you don't speed then you've nothing to worry about. These machines have a tolerance so if your going to do 51 in a 50 you'll be ok.


Also when your overtaking it doesn't give you automatic right to break the speed limit.

Trying to blame the gardai because you break the law is very Irish.

Christ! if you're such a goody two shoes then explain your post on this thread about gatso vans, I've quoted your comment below.

niceirishfella wrote: »

I'm feckin paranoid these days, the second i see a transit stationary on the road ahead, i slam on the brakes.

craiginireland wrote: »

me too!

So..
1. Explain how that is safe! And how you believe these vans are a good thing!
2. Why would you of all people be braking since you don't speed..
Answer a. I wasn't speeding I just felt some unnecessary hard braking would brighten up the day of the motorist behind me
Answer b. I was speeding and not only did I decide that some hard braking would brighten up the day of the motorist behind me, but I felt that I should come to a dramatic halt lest I incur some loathsome penalty points in which case I may feel aggrieved at Garda man... and trying to blame the gardai because I break the law is so very Irish..



Not to mention the fact that you fit the description of the "Idiot" you previously referred to..

craiginireland wrote: »

If even one life is saved cos some idiot didn't plough his car into another car because he thought he saw a gatso van and slowed down then every cent is worth it.

Oops... I did mention that.. even though I said "Not to mention".
Sorry, really I am

Terrontress

craiginireland wrote: »

Sounds like you've been caught!

If even one life is saved cos some idiot didn't plough his car into another car because he thought he saw a gatso van and slowed down then every cent is worth it.

What absolute nonsense. Emotive hollow rhetoric. By using that logic the Gardai would be able to take any course of action because it might rate lives. Further down the same line of thought is the line of internment without trial we saw in Northern Ireland. The security forces believed it would save lives and the civil rights of those impacted took a back seat.

John_C

Terrontress wrote: »

What absolute nonsense. Emotive hollow rhetoric. By using that logic the Gardai would be able to take any course of action because it might rate lives. Further down the same line of thought is the line of internment without trial we saw in Northern Ireland. The security forces believed it would save lives and the civil rights of those impacted took a back seat.

I think this analogy falls down on the fact that those interned without trial didn't have any evidance of law breaking presented against them.

Terrontress

John_C wrote: »

I think this analogy falls down on the fact that those interned without trial didn't have any evidance of law breaking presented against them.

But it's that same school of thought that it doesn't matter if something is wrong, it's all about saving lives, or one life, at any cost.

We could save countless lives by imposing all forms of pointless or unfair laws. The total banning of cars from the city centres would prevent a few people being knocked down. Reduction of drink drive limit to absolute zero. Compulsory fitting of speed limiters. Is it the right thing to do though? Even if someone plots a chart which links it to the saving of one life.

It is very easy to make such a statement about the status quo being correct if it saves lives because the person arguing with you sounds like they don't want to save lives but you can be sure that putting 2 speed cameras a minute apart on a wide road does not save lives except for in the most unlikely of circumstances.

I'd say there is not a solitary person posting or reading who does not agree with this current policy who does not have a genuine desire to see a reduction in deaths on the roads yet our friend Craig puts himself on the side of lifesaving and everyone else on the side of reckless life endangernent.

antodeco

I saw two gardai down brewrey road the other day. Think it was Satursay night. It was around 7pm. They were standing there in the pitch black with their device on a tripod. They dont have nighttime cameras on tripods now do they?

craiginireland

Terrontress wrote: »

But it's that same school of thought that it doesn't matter if something is wrong, it's all about saving lives, or one life, at any cost.

We could save countless lives by imposing all forms of pointless or unfair laws. The total banning of cars from the city centres would prevent a few people being knocked down. Reduction of drink drive limit to absolute zero. Compulsory fitting of speed limiters. Is it the right thing to do though? Even if someone plots a chart which links it to the saving of one life.

It is very easy to make such a statement about the status quo being correct if it saves lives because the person arguing with you sounds like they don't want to save lives but you can be sure that putting 2 speed cameras a minute apart on a wide road does not save lives except for in the most unlikely of circumstances.

I'd say there is not a solitary person posting or reading who does not agree with this current policy who does not have a genuine desire to see a reduction in deaths on the roads yet our friend Craig puts himself on the side of lifesaving and everyone else on the side of reckless life endangernent.

Sorry mate thats BS.
You're pretty much admitting you don't care bout life as long as you can break the law and not get caught. Either that or you've a low opinion of human life.

How many times do you need be told? Even if there 10 speed cameras on the road, if your driving legally then you've nothing to be worried about.

You'll also find a large amount of people agree with the zero drink drive limit. And statistics prove that its rural and suburban areas you're more like to have a pedestrian knocked down.

knuth

Spotted again on the dual carriage way beside the Halfway House heading in the direction of town. Just after the new fly over (about 400 metres past the esso station) @ 23:00.

zulfikarMD

I feel that people hardly care about traffic laws and road safety. I have lost my mother and mother-in-law in car accident here in Ireland (Nov'2007). By the grace of god myself with my little baby, wife survived this accident. Unless and until people suffer then they realize how important road safety and traffic laws are. It is very unfortunate to see people making silly comments here.

Terrontress

craiginireland wrote: »

Sorry mate thats BS.
You're pretty much admitting you don't care bout life as long as you can break the law and not get caught. Either that or you've a low opinion of human life.

How many times do you need be told? Even if there 10 speed cameras on the road, if your driving legally then you've nothing to be worried about.

You'll also find a large amount of people agree with the zero drink drive limit. And statistics prove that its rural and suburban areas you're more like to have a pedestrian knocked down.

Exactly the sort of attitude I highlighted above. I must have a low opinion of life as I do not agree with the current Gardai method of catching speeders.

What annoys me most is that by having a traffic camera,or two, stationary on a very safe stretch of road, it is taking up resources which could be out on the road network targeting behaviours which include speeding amongst others. Trained Gardai are not able to use their discretion when it is as black and white as a number on a computer. A person with no tax, nct or insurance can drive past as drunk as a skunk just as long as they do so beneath 50km\h.

I have no desire to break the law, agree with the need for speed enforcement and think that the current system is around making up figures. This pursuit of figures has obviously failed alot of the people who have died on the road in recent years. When the media and politicians ask for reasons why so many people have died, they are given stats pointing out how many middle aged men in Mondeos they have caught doing 10% over the limit.

Does that make me a cold-hearted bastard who doesn't value human life?

If it does then I make no apology.

RandomAccess

zulfikarMD wrote: »

I feel that people hardly care about traffic laws and road safety. I have lost my mother and mother-in-law in car accident here in Ireland (Nov'2007). By the grace of god myself with my little baby, wife survived this accident. Unless and until people suffer then they realize how important road safety and traffic laws are. It is very unfortunate to see people making silly comments here.

I care very much about road safety, but having machines police the roads instead of people is not the answer. I feel more at risk from Drunk or Dangerous drivers, and none of these machines will tackle undertaking, swerving between lanes, reversing on dual carriagways & roundabouts, failing to yield at junctions, talking on the phone at roundabouts, and driving the wrong way down a dual carriageway.. I have seen every single one of these, some multiple times and these gatso machines will not prevent any of this.. I'm not advocating the removal of speed Limits, I would gladly have a Gatso on every main street in Ireland because that is one area where speed is the single most dangerous factor which could kill a pedestrian, we have all seen the advert about a child hit at 40mph dying while a child at 30mph survives.

These machines are a replacement for Police and about as effective as the old sleeping policeman..
People fail to see that you can be for speed restriction but against gatso's and against guards parked on sliproads where the road limit changes from 120 to 100kph while the road stays a modern dual carriageway (N8 at Rathcormac/Watergrasshill between Fermoy and Cork)

cul-2008

got caught by one of these yokes on the Dock road in limerick - was just a plain white van, no garda stickers, nothing.

had'nt a clue i was caught 'till I got the notice in the post on Christmas Eve..best Christmas present ever! :rolleyes:

Of course it was parked off a wide dual laned recently-resurfaced road at 8pm in the evening. Oh well...paid the fine and took the points.

Mind you, everytime I see a white van at the side of the road I brake...I should appeal it on the fact that I'm now extremely paranoid!

zulfikarMD

RandomAccess wrote: »

These machines are a replacement for Police and about as effective as the old sleeping policeman..
People fail to see that you can be for speed restriction but against gatso's and against guards parked on sliproads where the road limit changes from 120 to 100kph while the road stays a modern dual carriageway (N8 at Rathcormac/Watergrasshill between Fermoy and Cork)

I dont think these machines are complete replacement for policemen. Being from a non-european country I feel road safety and traffic rules are pretty well implemented here in Ireland compared to most of the non-european countries (Specially South Asian Countries).

neil.p.b

melbourne wrote: »

Right, the white gatso van has been parking on the left hand side of the N11, city bound, around 400meters past the turn off for RTE (NUTLEY LANE). Can this camera van take photo's at night? I know I went by it at a fair old pace about 22.30 last Friday night.

I was driving past here on saturday night and saw a flash. I didnt see the van close up i immediately looked at my speedo and it said i was doing 65, and i was fairly close to it, maybe about 20 meters so hopefully im ok! But i did see a flash and they wouldn't be there if they couldn't catch people at night. Though someone in another thread said they use IR so you wouldn't see a flash, whether this is true or not i dont know