SFIV madcatz control pad - where to buy in Ireland?

Cunny-Funt

http://kotaku.com/5128370/ces-09-hands-on-with-mad-catzs-sfiv-fightstick--fightpad

As many of you fighting game fans probably know, these pads and sticks will be out very soon.

Personally, I'm highly interested in the controllers.But I'm starting to worry that I wont be able to get my hands on them and that they'll sell out before I do.

Anyone know what the story is with them for buying over here? Will they even be in any shops?

Also, I do my gaming on the PC and currently use a PS3 pad for SF3 3rd strike.

Which one of these would be better to get though in terms of using it on the PC? The 360 one or the PS3?

I'm thinking of buying 2 so I may get one of each just incase

Fnz

Am also looking to get a fightpad for use on the PC and (perhaps) taking over to friends to 'throw down'. Trying to decide on whether to get a PS3 or 360 one. What extras, if any, does the PS3 controller require for use on PC?

Only place I've seen the controller for sale in Europe is Amazon.co.uk - they don't ship electricals to Eire though.

Looks like we have to wait until closer to the release date for answers.

rizzla

The only difference they mention in the article is that the ps3 one is wireless and the x360 one is wired. So if your pc has bluetooth I guess the ps3 pad will work. If not the 360 wired usb one should work too.

Cunny-Funt

No.

To use a PS3 pad on your PC you have to use a USB wire, along with a little program you must run each time you wanna use the pad.

This is why I'm asking. If I buy the 360 one, will it just work straight away on my pc with no extra stuff?

Its a while yet before SFIV will be on the PC but I wanna buy these pads asap as I'm worried they'll end up like the saturn pads and impossible to find.

Any way to pre-order them in a shop or anything?

Azza

Think I would have to go with the stick version myself but I have not decided weither this or a HRAP 3 is better yet. But I need one compatable with both PC and PS3.

Cunny where do you play your games on PC?

Placebo

youre all gonna get destroyed online if you use pads.

TheWitch06

Placebo wrote: »

youre all gonna get destroyed online if you use pads.

:pac:

Anyways, the wired 360 controllers are plug and play compatible with PC so I'd say your best bet is to buy the 360 version of the Fight Pad. I'm gonna order my Tournament Edition Stick from Play-Asia (If there is some left in stock) so I guess you could try pre-order it from there too.

Placebo

we will see
might have to mod my stick and to save

SeantheMan

Placebo wrote: »

youre all gonna get destroyed online if you use pads.

Please explain the theory behind this, I'd get destroyed anyways. But id like to know why Joysticks..i presume you mean...are infinitely better

Azza

There just give better control than a joypad does. I could not imagine using a pad in a 2D fighting game.

TheWitch06

SeantheMan wrote: »

Please explain the theory behind this, I'd get destroyed anyways. But id like to know why Joysticks..i presume you mean...are infinitely better

Sticks are just the best. I'd say that pads are suited to people who haven't really had experience playing FG's in arcades and to casual players, pads are so easy to get the hang of using too so they just stick to using pads (Not that I care if you use a pad, It's just my preference to use a stick) Sticks on the other hand, take time, lots of it.

Anyway, SFIV online better have a good netcode or I won't even bother to play it online much. Maybe we'll have an offline gathering/tournament too when the game is released?!

Placebo

Well, firstly I personally find the 360 controller useless for fighting games, its so hard to do the infamous QFC motion, which is what most of SF games are based around.

Secondly, when it comes to excellent execution and patience, pad holders [probably only me] tend to hold on to buttons, i.e back/forward button, a bad habbit learned from other games that require such tactics racing/fps etc. So when it cames to games like SF3 where in order to execute a parry you have to press forward and let the joystick go to its neutral position, it just came across too hard.

Its really just personal preference but from what i know, all the beasts from the shoryuken forums are restless about this game and when its released, there will be a mass amount of frustration for alot of people [including me ]

I started playing SF3 on pad and it was very fustrating, specially executing moves when the player goes to the other side

so i transitioned to stick [which takes a while] and things got much easier.



P.s: im more excited about Battle Fantasia

Fnz

Some random comment on Kotaku (great source, I know) suggested that the PS3 controller would not communicate via bluetooth but, instead, uses an RF wireless USB dongle.

Anyone know this to be true... and where 'RF' ranks in wireless standards?

Placebo wrote: »

youre all gonna get destroyed online if you use pads.

SeantheMan wrote: »

Please explain the theory behind this, I'd get destroyed anyways. But id like to know why Joysticks..i presume you mean...are infinitely better

I don't feel anyone has logically explained why this would be true, yet. Beyond saying that all the best players just use sticks anyway, I don't see why one method would be superior to the other.

I'm sure I will also get destroyed unless playing with friend so I have no delusions of grandeur... or competence.

Placebo

think of it as an FPS game with mouse/keyboard vs controller. I'm sure theres some halo enthusiast that are great but when it comes to counterstrike....
Design/ergonomics = ease

Creature

A stick is not better than a pad. Just use whatever you feel comfortable with. Don't mind what anybody says.


As far as those Madcatz peripherals go I can't imagine they'll be found anywhere over here. I think online is the best bet.

Fnz

Placebo wrote: »

think of it as an FPS game with mouse/keyboard vs controller. I'm sure theres some halo enthusiast that are great but when it comes to counterstrike....
Design/ergonomics = ease

That doesn't wash with me. You can move from one target to another more quickly with a mouse than with a controller in a fps - I think your analogy is reaching a bit tbh.

Designs/ergonomics = personal preference in this instance.

Azza

As far as I'm aware all the Pro's use joysticks as opposed to pads so they must have there reasons. Piano inputs strike me as something that would be far easiar to do on an arcade pad than joypad.

Fnz

Azza wrote: »

As far as I'm aware all the Pro's use joysticks as opposed to pads so they must have there reasons.

Is that actually true, or just a misconception? If true, it could be due to the lack of options should they want to play the arcade machine competitively. Could have been indoctrinated from an early age to use the stick.

Piano inputs strike me as something that would be far easiar to do on an arcade pad than joypad.

Yeah, maybe. Do you know the longest 'string' to input for a move? I thought Akuma's raging demon/instant hell murder was the longest but stand to be corrected.

Creature

I can do the Raging Demon perfectly fine on a pad. Not a problem at all.

The pros use sticks because these pros are all American or Japanese and all learn to play SF in arcades where they use, yup you guessed it, arcade sticks. Like I said, just use what you feel comfortable with/what you're used to.

Cunny-Funt

I always got the impression that the idea of getting a stick was to re-live the arcade days. I never played in the arcade, I played on consoles. So pad it is for me.

And Placebo, I've learned 3s online and hell I've played you many a time back when mame was used. All I use is a pad. If I get destroyed , its not cause of the pad, its cause the player is better then I am.

Azza wrote: »

Think I would have to go with the stick version myself but I have not decided weither this or a HRAP 3 is better yet. But I need one compatable with both PC and PS3.

Cunny where do you play your games on PC?

I play on 2Df

www.2dfighter.com

Placebo

well i would find it impossible to do a move such as high jump ex Hurricane Kick[Ken] across the screen with those mad cat pads. Thats just me then...

Retr0gamer

The sticks allow better and more fluid movement than a d-pad. It's pretty much essential when you start taking your game to the top tier level. I'll probably get the sticks if I can afford them but I've totally lost my nack with them so will probably have to relearn how to use them and get used to them.

FutureGuy

I'd love to get the Tournament Edition, but am waiting to read a review on the d-pad on the pad. If it gets an excellent review, I'll probably stick to that instead.

Azza

Any of you guys play on GGPO either ST or 3S. I'd be up for a few games if you want, have not used 2df.

Placebo

il go on GGPO tonight as 'anti-girl', have not played in a while.
Not too familiar with 2DF's interface, seems a bit awkward.

I have the SF Anniversary stick and HRAP2, such a difference, found myself playing much better with HRAP2

Benzino

It seems you can pre-order them here later today. But according to Eurogamer, they are limited, so I would hurry.

Creature

Benzino wrote: »

It seems you can pre-order them here later today. But according to Eurogamer, they are limited, so I would hurry.

That site wont deliver to the Reupublic of Ireland


Also AFAIK its only the Tournament Edition sticks that are limited edition. The regular ones aren't limited.

Jim

Play.com have the Madcatz sticks, but no sign of the pads. Amazon.co.uk have the pads but afaik they don't deliver electronic goods to Ireland.

Creature

Play.com are ridiculous. They're charging €90 for the PS3 collectors edition game. I know they like to mark up a few euros but bloody hell thats an extra €20-25 on top of what it should be.

evad_lhorg

available on madcatz website now. way too expensive for the tournament edition. £150. think ill wait for play to get the normal edition of the stick and get it there.

Jim

Creature wrote: »

Play.com are ridiculous. They're charging €90 for the PS3 collectors edition game. I know they like to mark up a few euros but bloody hell thats an extra €20-25 on top of what it should be.

That's the price of it everywhere afaik.

Cunny-Funt

Placebo wrote: »

well i would find it impossible to do a move such as high jump ex Hurricane Kick[Ken] across the screen with those mad cat pads. Thats just me then...

Woah:eek: you using a 360 pad or something? I'd understand then. Thats basic stuff other wise , can't see any issue doing that with any other pads, its just basic down up+forward-down back 2x kicks. Could even do that with a keyboard

I do find moves like the SPD etc really hard. Or a really good example would be charge characters supers in games like alpha 3. Hold back, then forward back forward punch etc. Never been able to pull those off on a pad.

Azza wrote: »

Any of you guys play on GGPO either ST or 3S. I'd be up for a few games if you want, have not used 2df.

I use ggpo AND 2df, but I just ended up sticking to 2df as all I mainly play is 3s and 2df's is better for 3s imo (on GGPO I'd get lines through my screen or sometimes KO would appear on the screen when both of us were still fighting) Theres also more 3s player on 2df.

Plus I love the replay system on 2df.

Placebo wrote: »

il go on GGPO tonight as 'anti-girl', have not played in a while.
Not too familiar with 2DF's interface, seems a bit awkward.

Have you used it recenly? I don't find it any different from GGPO tbh

Jim wrote: »

Play.com have the Madcatz sticks, but no sign of the pads. Amazon.co.uk have the pads but afaik they don't deliver electronic goods to Ireland.

I don't think play ship electronics to Ireland either. I remember trying to buy a joystick (flightsims) from them and it wouldnt let me.



What are the chances of these pads/stick even being available in shops over here when they come out?

Azza

I have been lead to believe that ggpo has less lag than 2df?

I just got 2df working so I'll try it out now.

Cunny-Funt

GGPO deffo has a better net code but 2df works fine.

CiDeRmAn

Gamestop normally get some of those types of limited edition controllers in, give them a call, in fact try Game as well, just don't be surprised at the premium price, given the specialist nature of the controller

Placebo

Are any irish shops gettin those arcade sticks in ?

I played on GGPO last night, i never have a great experience,
-black lines
-KO appearing before game ends + other strange sync issues
-Atleast with MAME, you feel the lag, on GGPO somehow it seems the lags is being hidden and some other sort of emulation mechanic comes into place, just doesnt feel right,

gonna hit 2dF soon.

Cunny-Funt : im assuming alot will be using the general xbox pad, also EX moves would be hard ! Some advances play tactics would also seem impossible, storing lighting kick with chunli/ UOH to lightning kick etc etc.
Also red parries :S

Cunny-Funt

ah yeah deffo try 2df man if you've not. Its P2P, its not like MAME at all. No where near as laggy.

And yeah most people I know who do play SF and on a 360 use the little joystick instead of the d-pad, its that useless.

So obviously anything is better then the 360 pad. Thats another reason why these madcatz pads might sell out fast, so many 360 people waiting for a decent pads as theres few 3rd party 360 pads out there.

TheWitch06

I hope at least one shop gets the TE sticks in. It's gonna be so hard to get them online plus the prices will be sky high with shipping etc. :(:(

Jim

Play have the controllers listed now, gonna try and order and see what they say. Play-asia also have them btw and I've never had any issue with them shipping electronics to Ireland.

evad_lhorg

I hope play.com will be getting the sticks in. they only have the pads at the moment.

Cunny-Funt

Jim wrote: »

Play have the controllers listed now, gonna try and order and see what they say. Play-asia also have them btw and I've never had any issue with them shipping electronics to Ireland.

Let me know if you have any luck m8. really wanna get my hands on those pads!

Fnz

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Let me know if you have any luck m8. really wanna get my hands on those pads!

Order one. It's listed under "games" and not "electronics" so play.com will deliver it to Ireland, in my experience.

€45 Euro for the fightpad though? Amazon.co.uk are selling them for £25 (but don't deliver to Ireland). Has anyone reviewed the pad yet?

Creamy Goodness

Creature wrote: »

Play.com are ridiculous. They're charging €90 for the PS3 collectors edition game. I know they like to mark up a few euros but bloody hell thats an extra €20-25 on top of what it should be.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=XT1441&title=street_fighter_iv_collectors_edition - Xbox360 version

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?productcode=PX0437&title=street_fighter_iv_collectors_edition - Playstation 3 version

+ £2.95 shipping = £62.94 = €69.76

saving of €20 on play.com price.

i'll buy the pads i think as i grew up playing SF on a megadrive pad so they'll bring the closer experience back of that. I know sticks are better but I ain't forking out that much money for something i'm not going to play professionally lol.

Cunny-Funt

Do they sell the pads? I'm only interested in the pads on their own as I'm waiting for the PC version.

But I want the pads asap!

Creamy Goodness

nope don't think they are selling the pads at all as they would have them for pre-order by now along with street fighter IV

Uthred

Does anyone know if the sticks will be available from Irish retailers, e.g. Gamestop, Smyths ? As it would certainly save on the shipping for the tournament edition one (which is a tad heavy)

Cunny-Funt

Nobody seems to know, but I'm sorry to say m8, from reading around forums the past 2 days...is that the tournament edition stick might already be sold out by now.


Now don't hold me to this as I'm only interested in the pads so I was not specifically looking for details on the sticks but I came across the odd post indicating the TE sticks are all out of stock everywhere and just from pre-orders as well.

I dunno what the story is about them, and if theres any more coming out but some of the lads behind making them have been hinting that very few have been made.

Uthred

Cunny-Funt wrote: »

Nobody seems to know, but I'm sorry to say m8, from reading around forums the past 2 days...is that the tournament edition stick might already be sold out by now.

Yeah after reading Shoryuken I have the fear that I wont be getting one I pre-ordered one on Amazon.co.uk along with one of the pads so hopefully that will come through.

Placebo

sure irish shops had pads when xbox sfac annivarsary got released.

FutureGuy

I checked around some of the game shops in Limerick only to be met with the usual "shugging of shoulders" and "I didn't hear there were controllers for the game".

K.O.Kiki

From 12.Jan.2009:

MadCatz, Inc. is leading the way in what will be a milestone in Fighting Game History with the Street Fighter IV Tournament Edition Arcade FightStick. Be sure you’re a part of it. If you haven’t pre-ordered one already, chances are you WON’T be getting one. Play-Asia is among your last, if not only, place left to pre-order your own. Follow the link to check out the Street Fighter IV line of products that will be available.
PLAY-ASIA -STREET FIGHTER IV PRODUCTS

Sorry guys, should've shown up earlier to clear some of this up (been following it since the leaks). IIRC, markman said the TE is limited to 3'000 worldwide.

All hope is not lost, however: the regular edition stick is completely user-moddable (and pretty good stock).
Or you can always make/order a custom job