Wilkinson Guitar Tuners?

rgjmce

http://cgi.ebay.ie/6-in-line-Wilkinson-chrome-locking-guitar-tuners-No-1-2_W0QQitemZ140292120103QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item140292120103&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

I seen these tuners on ebay (link above).

I was just wondering two things

Are they any good?

and also they look like are ordinary tuners

Are they locking tuners?

Dord

They're good tuners, but don't buy from that store. I've dealth with them before, not very good.

rgjmce

Dord wrote: »

They're good tuners, but don't buy from that store. I've dealth with them before, not very good.

Are they locking tuners?

Dord

Sort of. Not conventional locking tuners though.

You won't get proper locking tuners for that kinda money.

rgjmce

But they will keep my guitar in tune

Doctor J

Dunno, there's some dodgy crap going around with the Wilkinson name on them, I wouldn't put any faith in a £12 set of tuners.

rgjmce, electric guitars stayed in tune for almost 50 years before locking tuners were invented. How you string your existing tuners and how well your nut is cut have a huge influence in the tuning accuracy of your guitar and if your nut is the problem then locking tuners won't fix it.

What guitar have you got?

Red Sleeping Beauty

rgjmce wrote: »

But they will keep my guitar in tune

If your guitar isn't staying in tune there's a half dozen other problems you need to check for before replacing tuners.
What guitar is it? Has it got a tremolo/vibrato bridge ?

If you absolutely want to change your tuners then make sure you get the measurements of your pegholes right.

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rgjmce

It's a SX guitar (stratocaster copy) and i just read today that they have been known to have dodgey nuts

Red Sleeping Beauty

Even expensive guitars can have dodgy nuts...

I'd recommend one of these :

http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=5

It basically lubricates itself, so everytime you bend a note or use your whammy bar the string just slides up and down (or in/out) of the nut and doesn't get stuck. They also do a "Tusq" nut which is artificial bone essentially.


Graphtech also have self lubricating saddles which are very good. String Savers they're called.

rgjmce

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

Even expensive guitars can have dodgy nuts...

I'd recommend one of these :

http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?CategoryID=5

It basically lubricates itself, so everytime you bend a note or use your whammy bar the string just slides up and down (or in/out) of the nut and doesn't get stuck. They also do a "Tusq" nut which is artificial bone essentially.


Graphtech also have self lubricating saddles which are very good. String Savers they're called.

I think i will get one of them but how much are they?

rgjmce

I seen a graphtech string saver for about €5

Red Sleeping Beauty

You saw one string saver for a fiver ?

Set of saddles I think are about 30-ish quid.

Try Xmusic/Musician Inc at the Red Cow (if you're in Dublin)

Waltons stock a good few Graph TEch products but everytime I've enquired about sometime the person I get stuck doesn't understand what I am asking of them or rather, doesn't know what the Graph TEch products actually are...
Anyway, if you're not in Dublin then I don't know what you can do. Order online, thomann or musicstore might have them but make sure to check the measurements of your bridge against those on Graph Tech's site so that you get the right saddle size

Doctor J

More often than not the problem with nuts is that the slots are too thin, the string gets wedged in the slot and there is friction. Graphtech nuts, in my experience, don't perform that much better than a properly cut plastic nut, plus I found they allow vibrations to travel through the nut, so you tend to hear annoying overtones from behind the headstock a lot more. String the guitar properly, always tune up to pitch and get the nut slots cut so string move freely though it and you don't need to keep chucking money on aftermarket parts.

Hockney

How do you lubricate a nut? What materials are involved?

I've heard that getting a clutch pencil and running the thin lead part through the nut slots is a good option, anyone got any experience with this?

I've had some minor problems with downtuning (slightly turning the tuning peg doesn't result in pitch dropping at all) and reckon freeing up the nut should sort it...

Red Sleeping Beauty

Sharpen a pencil so it fits in the nut slot, and basically as if you're colouring in the slot keep running it back and forth.

Johnny Storm

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

Sharpen a pencil so it fits in the nut slot, and basically as if you're colouring in the slot keep running it back and forth.

+1

Vaseline or chapstick also work fine.

Red Sleeping Beauty

Vaseline's a bit messy. I suppose though you could do both ? Maybe that'd make it too slippy. I've read a few guides that suggest also lubricating the saddles.

rgjmce

I have done the pencil sharpening thing, It works but not for that long.

I want something that is more permanant.

I am now wondering are new nuts hard to fit?

rgjmce

alan dunne 27 wrote: »

You saw one string saver for a fiver ?

Set of saddles I think are about 30-ish quid.

Try Xmusic/Musician Inc at the Red Cow (if you're in Dublin)

Waltons stock a good few Graph TEch products but everytime I've enquired about sometime the person I get stuck doesn't understand what I am asking of them or rather, doesn't know what the Graph TEch products actually are...
Anyway, if you're not in Dublin then I don't know what you can do. Order online, thomann or musicstore might have them but make sure to check the measurements of your bridge against those on Graph Tech's site so that you get the right saddle size

Actually it was a TUSQ nut not a string saver and also i'll probably buy the saddles too but will buy them online since the shops in dublin are too expensive and yes i know i will check the measurements before i buy.

Red Sleeping Beauty

I've found that it's not all that easy to find Graph Tech products online. They've a UK dist. I think but when I was looking for saddles (for a TOM EPi bridge) they were out of stock.

Make sure you read over their site and their guides and stuff, you don't wanna get saddled (sorry , bad pun) with the wrong product. Waltons had the saddles I needed for about €23 I think it was which was cheaper than Thomann.


Yes, someone said it. Waltons sold me something that was cheaper than Thomann

rgjmce

I have seen them cheap on ebay and i know to be careful and make sure they are the real deal