Searching the Shannon for a man

Jane Doh!

Heard this late last night on the news. Todays news reported that the young man was seen entering the river at 8 o'clock.

I hate hearing stories like this. I know its not confirmed if it was an accident or intentional yet.

If it was intentional, in these times will we see an increase?

I hope not.

brousuka

Jane Doh! wrote: »

Heard this late last night on the news. Todays news reported that the young man was seen entering the river at 8 o'clock.

I hate hearing stories like this. I know its not confirmed if it was an accident or intentional yet.

If it was intentional, in these times will we see an increase?

I hope not.

Sadly there will probably be an increase. I was amazed to hear last week that the Samaritans have a sign up on the cliff edge at the Cliffs of Moher.

Jane Doh!

brousuka wrote: »

Sadly there will probably be an increase. I was amazed to hear last week that the Samaritans have a sign up on the cliff edge at the Cliffs of Moher.

Yes, there is. I think its a good idea. A bit depressing for some visitors maybe, but I'm sure it does'nt ruin the experience for them.

Aidric

I knew something like this was up last night. There was a helicopter flying very low over the shannon last night shining two searchlights in to the river.

Jane Doh!

They are still searching....

Insect Overlord

Awful news. I can't think of anything else to say.

Berty

Morbid but my Fiancess uncle walked himself into the Shannon last year and it took 13 days until he was found.

It takes many days for the body to bloat to come to the surface. The search was long since called off and 3 local fishermen(friends of his) found him one morning.

Jane Doh!

Its a sad way to go. Feel for his family and friends.

tomcollins97

Any news on whether he has been found?

Mc Love

Havent heard anything about this on the news!

source

They're still looking, the Air Sea Rescue Helicopter is over the river at the moment, i can hear it from my bedroom, very loud.

It probably won't be on the news until the body is found.

Insect Overlord

It was on RTÉ eirtel last night that there was a search in progress.

Jane Doh!

Apparently they know who the lad was, local and in his early 20's.

The Toyota car dealers on Tipp road closed over the weekend, son of the owner died. A youth in Jansboro died.

There were 3 completed suicides over the past week in Limerick. Did'nt see much reporting on that, society really needs to wake up to this problem.

Ireland has the fifth highest rate of youth suicide in Europe.

tomcollins97

Agreed.

Is there any statistical info available on the numbers per county or numbers at specific times of year?

Insect Overlord

I don't have any official statistics to hand, but I'm pretty sure the number of suicides far eclipses the total of deaths caused by road/traffic accidents per year. It's a scary thought, one of these issues is (rightly) shoved down our throats, but the other is (wrongly) almost shoved under the carpet.

Jane Doh!

The Suicide Prevention Report 2007 shows that the number of deaths by suicide is greater than that of deaths by traffic accidents.

cuculainn

brousuka wrote: »

Samaritans have a sign up on the cliff edge at the Cliffs of Moher.

If you walk the Golden gate bridge, there are helplines every few hundred meters asking people to ring for help before they jump.

So I gues anywhere where there is an opertunity it will be used

BeanieBaby

The HSE in Limerick organise a course for those interested in helping those feeling suicidal.

Its called the Asist Course: Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training.

They hold them regularly. Bernie Carroll organises it and operates out of the HSE offices in O'Connell Street.

It basically teaches you how to speak to someone who is suicidal, while you are waiting for the professionals i.e. Paramedics or GP to arrive.

I did it last year and its an excellent course.

The reality is that all of us are touched, either directly or indirectly by suicide and this course is really helpful in understanding the phenomenon and also giving you the confidence to know what to do should you find yourself in the company of someone who is feeling suicidal.

cuculainn

Jane Doh! wrote: »

The Suicide Prevention Report 2007 shows that the number of deaths by suicide is greater than that of deaths by traffic accidents.

Last I heard there were approx 400+ suicides per annum

gaf1983

An File wrote: »

I don't have any official statistics to hand, but I'm pretty sure the number of suicides far eclipses the total of deaths caused by road/traffic accidents per year. It's a scary thought, one of these issues is (rightly) shoved down our throats, but the other is (wrongly) almost shoved under the carpet.

Last July, Senator Mary White published an excellent paper entitled What we can do about Suicide in the New Ireland. (pdf file is here)

Plenty of statistics contained in it. It also mentions how often there some road traffic deaths may also be suicides.

BeanieBaby

What the stats don't show, is the difficulties encountered by those who "attempt" but don't "complete" suicide. The stigma attached to being labelled as having attempted suicide and the uphill struggle to move back into the zone of safety. And the constant worry of the families of those who have attempted but not completed, because apparently, if you have made one attempt on your life, then you are at much greater risk of making another.

Jane Doh!

BeanieBaby wrote: »

The HSE in Limerick organise a course for those interested in helping those feeling suicidal.

Its called the Asist Course: Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training.

Completed the ASIST training course about 2 years ago now, excellent and very well facilitated.

Have used the skills I learned twice since. I think the course should be compulsory for anyone working in the community or health sectors.

BeanieBaby

Good for you, Jane. Sad you had to use it but glad you could.

I found it an excellent course.

I think relevant, too, for those working with teenagers and young people. And even parents of teenagers.

Insect Overlord

Jane Doh! wrote: »

Completed the ASIST training course about 2 years ago now, excellent and very well facilitated.

Have used the skills I learned twice since. I think the course should be compulsory for anyone working in the community or health sectors.

Not sure if it's the exact same thing, but I'm signing up for a suicide prevention course in a few weeks time. Hopefully I'll never need to use it...

Jane Doh!

Probably is the same course, 2 full days training.

tomcollins97

Any word on if he was found?

Insect Overlord

tomcollins97 wrote: »

Any word on if he was found?

Haven't heard anything about this in two weeks.

Jane Doh! wrote: »

Probably is the same course, 2 full days training.

Turns out it's not the ASIST course, but the Gatekeeper. 5 weeks, 2 hours per week. Signed up yesterday.

BeanieBaby

An File wrote: »

Haven't heard anything about this in two weeks.



Turns out it's not the ASIST course, but the Gatekeeper. 5 weeks, 2 hours per week. Signed up yesterday.

The Asist one is 16 hours (just checked my cert). Good luck with it, I'm sure the content is pretty much the same in both. I found the Asist course very interesting and very informative but also very challenging in terms of the way it changes your perceptions.

LadyTBolt

tomcollins97 wrote: »

Any word on if he was found?

No, he's still not found. Should be any day now with the help of God.

Mc Love

There is a woman missing too! No sign of her yet either, its very sad!

tinsop

it will be a month tomorrow,no sign yet...:(

jocksandsocks

i thought he was pulled out by bunratty last week?

tinsop

that was someone else they took out by bunratty

LadyTBolt

Sorry guys but Bunratty did not take a body out of the river last week. That is a sad rumour ye have heard.