dressing up as Madeleine

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:09pm #1

Is that not the most ****ed up thing you have ever heard?

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090110/tuk-mccann-anger-over-tory-fancy-dress-6323e80.html

A leading Tory youth activist has been condemned by Kate and Gerry McCann after dressing up as their missing daughter Madeleine at a New Year's party.

Conservative Future (CF) member Matthew Lewis was criticised by the family after bragging about the stunt on his Facebook site.

He was expelled from the party and criticised by Conservative chairman Caroline Spelman when his comments were picked up. Later he issued a statement to the media apologising "unreservedly" to the McCanns.
"I completely regret my behaviour that night and since, and cannot express how sorry I am for the incredible hurt I have caused," he said. "Whilst my actions were not meant to be malicious, I fully understand the pain they have brought."

Mr Lewis attracted criticism after writing on Facebook that his Madeleine McCann costume had included a blonde wig, "pink pyjamas, a teddy bear and a vial of fake blood". Other figures from Conservative Future joined in the joke, with one responding: "Is this a cunning (Baldrick style) plan to obtain the reward money?"

Ms Spelman branded Mr Lewis's behaviour "totally unacceptable" and confirmed he had been expelled from the party. "This offensive behaviour is not only shocking but intolerable and completely unacceptable," she said. "There is no place for this sort of person in the party."
The party is also understood to be examining whether action should be taken against other CF members involved. Clarence Mitchell, spokesman for the McCanns, earlier called for Mr Lewis to issue a public and private apology to the family.

"The offensiveness of this activist's actions is almost beyond belief," he said.
"I know Gerry and Kate will be grateful that the Tory party has taken swift and appropriate action by ejecting him from the party. His actions are not only disgraceful in themselves, they will also cause great hurt to Kate and Gerry. I feel it is appropriate that he now apologises both privately and publicly to them. It is a complete disgrace that Madeleine's name and image should be made fun of in this way."

Mr Lewis - believed to be in his early 20s and a student at Queen Mary, University of London - resigned as chairman of Staffordshire CF last month in protest at internal reforms. Images on the group's website show him campaigning with David Cameron for last year's Crewe and Nantwich by-election.

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Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:10pm

i think it's hilarious

MagicMarker · 10-01-2009 12:10pm

Meh.

Ciaran500 · 10-01-2009 12:11pm

I would of laughed if someone turned up in that.

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:11pm

It's sick

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:14pm

abi2007 wrote: »

It's sick

thank you!

galwayrush · 10-01-2009 12:14pm

Wow, a guy who has created his very own, and up to now, an entirely unimagined Psychological disorder. What an utter Twat.

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:15pm

abi2007 wrote: »

It's sick

I think it's ironic that you're saying it's sick considering your sig offers your baby free to whoever wants it :P

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:17pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

I think it's ironic that you're saying it's sick considering your sig offers your baby free to whoever wants it :P

My sig is a joke in response to a tread posted in after hours a few months back.. Think it was pregnant mentallers

TPD · 10-01-2009 12:17pm

Who here can honestly say they haven't dressed up as Madeleine at one point or another. Come on.

javaboy · 10-01-2009 12:17pm

Dressing up as Madeleine is nothing new: Link

Ciaran500 · 10-01-2009 12:19pm

abi2007 wrote: »

My sig is a joke in response to a tread posted in after hours a few months back.. Think it was pregnant mentallers

This is also a joke...

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:20pm

A very sick joke

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:21pm

javaboy wrote: »

Dressing up as Madeleine is nothing new: Link

*sniggers*

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:23pm

abi2007 wrote: »

A very sick joke

Some would say yours is a very sick joke and may get quite offended by it

YDMHSSB · 10-01-2009 12:25pm

i dont find it offensive to be honest.

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:25pm

My daughter is perfectly fine.. thats the difference

MagicMarker · 10-01-2009 12:26pm

It's bad taste, but it's not sick.

chickenhawk · 10-01-2009 12:27pm

There was a guy in Mayo who dressed up as her when the story was actually news. Wore a blue jersey (whatever she was wearing in the main news photo) with maddy written on the back.

I wasn't there but I've seen photos. I laughed.

Lockstep · 10-01-2009 12:30pm

he was expelled from the CF?

Anyone else think it was just the Conservatives looking for votes and not actually giving a damn about Maddie?

Wagon · 10-01-2009 12:31pm

I don't find it sick at all. Thousands of kids go missing every day and we never hear about those incidents. But I got absolutely sick to death of the constant updates on Madeline investigations and the media circus that went with it. Taking the piss out of it is normal for something that gets that much coverage.

To be honest, nothing but good things came out of it for this chap. He was expelled from a political party. Had he stayed on, then god forbid he might have become a proper politician and lost his sense of humor and became another lick arse. Another soul saved

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:32pm

abi2007 wrote: »

My daughter is perfectly fine.. thats the difference

So we're only allowed joke about things that haven't actually happened, is that the rule? Would you be as offended if someone went dressed as hitler?

*Roisin* · 10-01-2009 12:33pm

Was at a massive fancy dress party a year ago where the theme was "Blast from the Past". One of the lads dressed up as Maddie. He was slightly worried that someone would take offense but surprisingly everyone thought it was hilarious, free drinks for him all night. Guess it depends on your sense of humour?

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:35pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

So we're only allowed joke about things that haven't actually happened, is that the rule? Would you be as offended if someone went dressed as hitler?

If someone dressed as hitler it wouldnt bother me as enough time has passed

If it was the lindenberg baby it wouldnt either as it was nearly 100 years ago(well it will be in 2032 lol)

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:36pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

If someone dressed as hitler it wouldnt bother me as enough time has passed

If it was the lindenberg baby it wouldnt either as it was nearly 100 years ago

So we're only allowed joke about things that have happened if enough time has passed. Right so, what's the cut off point between ok and sick?

Lockstep · 10-01-2009 12:37pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

If someone dressed as hitler it wouldnt bother me as enough time has passed

If it was the lindenberg baby it wouldnt either as it was nearly 100 years ago

SO there is an arbitrary amount of time allowed to pass before something becomes funny?
Like AIDS?

Ciaran500 · 10-01-2009 12:38pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

If someone dressed as hitler it wouldnt bother me as enough time has passed

If it was the lindenberg baby it wouldnt either as it was nearly 100 years ago(well it will be in 2032 lol)

Are we using the 22.3 years time scale? How long does it take to be funny?

c - 13 · 10-01-2009 12:38pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

If someone dressed as hitler it wouldnt bother me as enough time has passed

If it was the lindenberg baby it wouldnt either as it was nearly 100 years ago(well it will be in 1232 lol)

So just out of curiosity how long is "enough" time to elapse before something should be allowed to be considered for joke material ?

And to the topic in question, the costume would not have bothered me, no more than anyone dressing up in any other "politically incorrect" costume

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:39pm

kickoutthejams wrote: »

SO there is an arbitrary amount of time allowed to pass before something becomes funny?
Like AIDS?

22.5 years wasn't it?

Edit:snap

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:39pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

So we're only allowed joke about things that haven't actually happened, is that the rule? Would you be as offended if someone went dressed as hitler?

I wouldn't give my daughter away.. it's true that i can't really afford her but if i did give her away.. to a good home that can it would be for her good. anyway this is not about my sig!

TPD · 10-01-2009 12:39pm

Twenty-two point three years. That's how long it takes for something tragic to become funny.

Edit: Damn you whoever got that in before me!

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:40pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

So we're only allowed joke about things that have happened if enough time has passed. Right so, what's the cut off point between ok and sick?

im not the person you were arguing with first just so you know

and 50- 100 years in my view

Sharpshooter · 10-01-2009 12:40pm

It is, a little mad.

MagicMarker · 10-01-2009 12:40pm

But Hitler killed millions, surely we're going on a kill by kill basis here? Maddie is only one person.

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:40pm

kickoutthejams wrote: »

SO there is an arbitrary amount of time allowed to pass before something becomes funny?
Like AIDS?

oh jesus!

did i mention aids? did i?

MagicMarker · 10-01-2009 12:42pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

oh jesus!

did i mention aids? did i?

But surely you think joking about AIDS is sick? Or 9/11, or Princess DIE!

Or are you just a big ass hypocrite?

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:42pm

abi2007 wrote: »

I wouldn't give my daughter away.. it's true that i can't really afford her but if i did give her away.. to a good home that can it would be for her good. anyway this is not about my sig!

No it's not it's about whether a joke is funny or sick. How would you like it if, for example, you lost your job because someone in your office took offence to your sig because their baby died or something?

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:43pm

My sig has nothing in it about babies dying!

Lockstep · 10-01-2009 12:44pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

oh jesus!

did i mention aids? did i?

Untwist thy knickers.

It's a reference to South Park when they are arguiing over when enough time passes to let AIDS become funny.

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:45pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

But surely you think joking about AIDS is sick? Or 9/11, or Princess DIE!

Or are you just a big ass hypocrite?

big ass? ah you have obviously read my personal ad:D

you need to take a chill pill man, i never said anything about princess DI or 9/11 or aids, im talking about people making fun of a missing child that could still be alive

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:45pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

im not the person you were arguing with first just so you know

and 50- 100 years in my view

I know you're not the person i was arguing with first, i'm just trying to work out when it's ok to joke about something. South park says 22.3 years, you say 50. But who's right?

Or maybe it's that everyone has their own sense of humour and there is no set rule as to what's funny and what's not

abi2007 · 10-01-2009 12:46pm

My opinion about the guy dressing up as madeline is that it is sick.. I'm ENTITLED to that no matter what my sig says.

Degsy · 10-01-2009 12:46pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

But Hitler killed millions, surely we're going on a kill by kill basis here? Maddie is only one person.

Ah but we'll never know how many people Maddie has killed.
Her parents had to get rid of her to stop the carnage.

MagicMarker · 10-01-2009 12:46pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

big ass? ah you have obviously read my personal ad:D

you need to take a chill pill man, i never said anything about princess DI or 9/11 or aids, im talking about people making fun of a missing child that could still be alive

And how is it sick?

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:48pm

MagicMarker wrote: »

And how is it sick?

its sick because a full grown man dressing up as a child is weird enough, but he is dressing up as a child who is missing , and the fact he was in a high profile job just makes him look even more of a spastic.

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:49pm

useful_contacts wrote: »

big ass? ah you have obviously read my personal ad:D

you need to take a chill pill man, i never said anything about princess DI or 9/11 or aids, im talking about people making fun of a missing child that could still be alive

We know you never mentioned those things, he's making the point that what you get offended by isn't necessarily what other people get offended by and if you made a 9/11 joke half the room might laugh and the other half might hate you forever.

Basically it's impossible to make one rule that covers what's funny and what's not

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:51pm

abi2007 wrote: »

My sig has nothing in it about babies dying!

No but it's talking about giving them away because you don't have the money. Very callous don't you think? Oh no wait it's a joke

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:51pm

Sam Vimes wrote: »

We know you never mentioned those things, he's making the point that what you get offended by isn't necessarily what other people get offended by and if you made a 9/11 joke half the room might laugh and the other half might hate you forever.

Basically it's impossible to make one rule that covers what's funny and what's not

yes i know that, but how someone can laugh about a missing child is beyond me

df1985 · 10-01-2009 12:51pm

i worked in a nightclub in tenerife all summer and we'd always have groups of lads in different costumes comin in.seen two laads dressed as maddie.one had an everton jersey with maddie on the back,blonde wig, suspenders and high heels.everyone found it hilarious to be honest.the other guy had a morocco jersey with mccann on the back-obviously thats where he thinks she was taken.seen a couple tshirts too with stuff like "i have maddie" and "i know where maddie is" printed on them.shes long gone at this stage so no one had a problem with it.

useful_contacts · 10-01-2009 12:52pm

df1985 wrote: »

i worked in a nightclub in tenerife all summer and we'd always have groups of lads in different costumes comin in.seen two laads dressed as maddie.one had an everton jersey with maddie on the back,blonde wig, suspenders and high heels.everyone found it hilarious to be honest.the other guy had a morocco jersey with mccann on the back-obviously thats where he thinks she was taken.seen a couple tshirts too with stuff like "i have maddie" and "i know where maddie is" printed on them.shes long gone at this stage so no one had a problem with it.

so that makes it ok to laugh at it?

Sam Vimes · 10-01-2009 12:54pm

abi2007 wrote: »

My opinion about the guy dressing up as madeline is that it is sick.. I'm ENTITLED to that no matter what my sig says.

Yes you're entitled to say that of course you are. But equally people are entitled to get offended by it. And he's entitled to dress up as madeline and people are entitled to get offended by it. That doesn't mean that getting offended and calling it sick is right, just that they're entitled to say it

dressing up as Madeleine

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