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Where does your guitar solo go?

  • 07-01-2009 11:18pm
    #1
    TelePaul
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    Pan left? Right? Dead centre? Dead centre and pan delays?


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  • #2
    dav nagle
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    TelePaul wrote: »
    Pan left? Right? Dead centre? Dead centre and pan delays?

    If the solo is very tight I would pan one mono audio channel hard left and another duplicate mono audio channel of the solo hard right and put one of the channels out of sync slight to create a wide sound with slight delay, fatten with EQ and don't over compress.


  • #3
    PaulBrewer
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    .... on someone else's record ...


  • #4
    frobisher
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    That's a bit of a how long is a piece of string question. Put the thing where it works. Panned one side with a slap back or rythmic delay panned the other way is tasty. But so is muting it and telling the guitarist that you don't care how many night lessons he did in Newpark Jazz school, guitar solos are naff :pac::pac::pac:


  • #5
    dav nagle
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    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    .... on someone else's record ...

    +1 great post


  • #6
    studiorat
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    Where ever it sounds best. It depends from song to song.


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  • #7
    dav nagle
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    Where do you think it sounds best and why do you think it sounds best in that position, any more detail?


  • #8
    frobisher
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    Snap Paul!


  • #9
    studiorat
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    dav nagle wrote: »
    Where do you think it sounds best and why do you think it sounds best in that position, any more detail?

    Depends on the song. I'd probably pan it a bit if it was a dense mix and I wanted to keep the solo down. In the centre if it's going to be up in the mix. You have to take into account what other instruments are doing.


  • #10
    RealEstateKing
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    guitar solos dont have to be naff, its widdly guitar solos that are naff.

    But seeing as the guitar solo is the lead instrument for it's part of the song, just like the vocal, it would be very odd if it were panned anywhere other than dead centre in my opinion.

    Unless you're after a sixties vibe. In that case, get your mix engineer really stoned on Thai Stick and get him to play with the pan pots randomly , for that Hendrix feel. "Its psychedlic, or just really ****ing annoying depending on how caned you are."


  • #11
    tubedude
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    frobisher wrote: »
    But so is muting it and telling the guitarist that you don't care how many night lessons he did in Newpark Jazz school, guitar solos are naff :pac::pac::pac:

    +1!


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  • #12
    seannash
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    im totally out of my depth on this one but if its a solo itll be the main focus at that point right so shouldnt it go straight down the middle?curious about stuff like this


  • #13
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
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    PaulBrewer wrote: »
    .... on someone else's record ...


    hah ! brilliant LOL


    serioulsy though i go with real estate on this one

    the best solos are textural ones in the robert fripp / adrian bellew vein , not widdly notey ones.

    best solos i ever heard was the robert fripp ones on bowies scary monsters ( fashion and scary monsters = tunes )

    pure sonic genius .


  • #14
    DamagedTrax
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    whats a guitar solo?


  • #15
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
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    DamagedTrax wrote: »
    whats a guitar solo?



    QUIET, YOU !

    i know your probably too young to rem them ;-)

    but here is one yesterday ....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ


  • #16
    af_thefragile
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    ^not eruption! I was expecting to see some hendrix or something!

    really depends.

    Sometimes left, sometimes right, sometimes center... Sometimes throw in a very quiet delay in the opposite side of the mix to complement the solo.
    All upto what sounds and feels best to me in the mix.


  • #17
    i57dwun4yb1pt8
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    shocking as it is - I love hendrix , stevie ray , page etc ,
    but to me blues / rock is the standard guitar solos anyway
    and i think that solo type is cliched and dead now .


    I feel people like bellew and fripp produce(d) extremely advanced solos / textures for their time .- I prefer this type of "solo" if you will.
    more a texture statment than a solo really.


  • #18
    DamagedTrax
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    DaDumTish wrote: »
    QUIET, YOU !

    i know your probably too young to rem them ;-)

    hahahaha.. thanks for the flattery but im old enough to remember being a curehead in the 80's :D


  • #19
    af_thefragile
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    DaDumTish wrote: »
    shocking as it is - I love hendrix , stevie ray , page etc ,
    but to me blues / rock is the standard guitar solos anyway
    and i think that solo type is cliched and dead now .


    I feel people like bellew and fripp produce(d) extremely advanced solos / textures for their time .- I prefer this type of "solo" if you will.
    more a texture statment than a solo really.

    Well, lately i've been listening to Dick Dale and The Ventures so that what i think of when someone mentions guitar solo. 60's surf rock!
    Or if not that Hendrix's solo in All Along the Watchtower. Absolutely epic!!


  • #20
    dav nagle
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    DaDumTish wrote: »
    shocking as it is - I love hendrix , stevie ray , page etc ,
    but to me blues / rock is the standard guitar solos anyway
    and i think that solo type is cliched and dead now .


    I feel people like bellew and fripp produce(d) extremely advanced solos / textures for their time .- I prefer this type of "solo" if you will.
    more a texture statment than a solo really.

    I love playing blues guitar myself, I have done session work and that in the Gate theatre in Dublin. One of my favorite mentors and blues guitarists is Pat Farell. He plays in a blues band called 'The Business', nothing like home grown talent. They used to play Bruxelles every Wednesday night upstairs, anyone remember them?


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