Any Moles in the lounge?

I've been having a bit of a spring clean and I've come across some old diarys.
I've never managed to commit to the idea for longer than 3 weeks.
But it is nice to see how trivial the things I was worrying about 4 years ago. Seem now. And hope that I'll feel the same way come 2013.

Do you keep a diary? Do you find that it helps you put things in perspective?

Does anyone know where I can find one with a lock.

Yes I am a paranoid polly.

Nevyn

Get an online one which you can make the entries private.

http://www.livejournal.com/
or maybe
http://www.insanejournal.com/

Ouh...Thats cool. Thanks Thae.

I'd still like to find a notepad. There is just something about pen and paper.

shellyboo

Thaedydal wrote: »

Get an online one which you can make the entries private.

http://www.livejournal.com/
or maybe
http://www.insanejournal.com/

Ooh, it's not the same as writing it out by hand though... I used to keep diaries and they physical act of writing was often a great release for any tension or stress or upset I was feeling. Literally a weight lifted. I'm not sure it would be the same posting it on a website.

homerun_homer

I started to keep a journal so I could remember events, nights out, conversations had and people I met. I find I've a bad memory at times and yet I could remember the most intricate details other times that no one else would take notice of. I stopped writing after I met someone who took up a lot of my time and now none of that part of my life has been logged. I wish I kept up the habit but it really did fall by the wayside.

Reading over old stuff can be very funny but some of the 'drama' was valid and a lot of it was pure OTT hilarity.

ntlbell

Trust me no one needs to keep their journal online unless you lead a very very interesting life.

If they could invent a way to stab someone who owns a useless online journal in the face I'd be a very happy man.

if you need to put it down electronically use notepad and keep it on your desktop.

Your right tho you can't beat pen on paper.

Nevyn

ntlbell wrote: »

Trust me no one needs to keep their journal online unless you lead a very very interesting life.

If they could invent a way to stab someone who owns a useless online journal in the face I'd be a very happy man.

if you need to put it down electronically use notepad and keep it on your desktop.

Your right tho you can't beat pen on paper.

Keyboard is my first hand to tbh scribing takes too long.
Desktop is not as safe and I like the functionality of some of the online options.
My life intresting? nah I'm just a stay at home mammy with two kids and a cat.
I do like to keep up with my friends and find that I enjoy reading their journals.

ntlbell

Thaedydal wrote: »

Keyboard is my first hand to tbh scribing takes too long.
Desktop is not as safe and I like the functionality of some of the online options.
My life intresting? nah I'm just a stay at home mammy with two kids and a cat.
I do like to keep up with my friends and find that I enjoy reading their journals.

Desktop is not safe compared to what? uploading it to a public web server?

how is a desktop unsafe?

you can use the functionality of the majority of the popular blog tools locally on your machine without uploading the information for every muppet in the world to read.

Nevyn

ntlbell wrote: »

you can use the functionality of the majority of the popular blog tools locally on your machine without uploading the information for every muppet in the world
to read.

The whole point of those two sites is that the entries are locked so that not every muppet can read them :P and as for them being on a public server they can be encrypted and they just become data sitting on the server which no one working there will bother with it's just data.

Dragan

I keep log books. I nearly always have it with me along with my camera, it's where random drawings and writing and bull**** end up. Loads of gig tickets and other things stuck in their as well. Lots of stuff by my friends from houseparties etc which is nice.

I use the below, they are brilliant and you can get them all over the place now, Easons is always a safe bet.

http://www.paperblanks.com/

ntlbell

Thaedydal wrote: »

The whole point of those two sites is that the entries are locked so that not every muppet can read them :P and as for them being on a public server they can be encrypted and they just become data sitting on the server which no one working there will bother with it's just data.

The majority of people don't seem to lock them plus I would of thought the diary moon was talking about were things she might want to keep private not just to her friends and family but keep them for herself and if it is the case putting them on a public server locked or not locked would be futile.

You can encrypt the document on your desktop?

there's enough crap on the internet wasting space and bandwith been wasted on piles of nonsense about how long it took them to go the shop and how gasley the price of milk is gone up..

ntlbell

Dragan wrote: »

I keep log books. I nearly always have it with me along with my camera, it's where random drawings and writing and bull**** end up. Loads of gig tickets and other things stuck in their as well. Lots of stuff by my friends from houseparties etc which is nice.

I use the below, they are brilliant and you can get them all over the place now, Easons is always a safe bet.

http://www.paperblanks.com/

There's a small irish company that does something similar they're really nice the name escapes me i'll have a look

shellyboo

ntlbell wrote: »

The majority of people don't seem to lock them plus I would of thought the diary moon was talking about were things she might want to keep private not just to her friends and family but keep them for herself and if it is the case putting them on a public server locked or not locked would be futile.

Yes, the majority don't, but as Thaed said in her post 'you can keep it private'. Anyway, I think the main concern with a diary is that friends and family would read it, I can't imangine anyone being too concerned that some bored IT staffer over in livejournal knows that I bought new pants yestreday or that I have a crush on that cute guy who works in the shop.

ntlbell wrote: »

there's enough crap on the internet wasting space and bandwith been wasted on piles of nonsense about how long it took them to go the shop and how gasley the price of milk is gone up..

Yeah, I know I'm dreading the day when I try to come onto boards and an error message saying "The internet is full" pops up :rolleyes: If you don't like blogs, don't read them.

ntlbell

shellyboo wrote: »

Yes, the majority don't, but as Thaed said in her post 'you can keep it private'. Anyway, I think the main concern with a diary is that friends and family would read it, I can't imangine anyone being too concerned that some bored IT staffer over in livejournal knows that I bought new pants yestreday or that I have a crush on that cute guy who works in the shop.

Yeah, I know I'm dreading the day when I try to come onto boards and an error message saying "The internet is full" pops up :rolleyes: If you don't like blogs, don't read them.

exactly so just leave it on your desktop, no one's going to read it then but you which was the whole idea behind them I thought. Unless you have something very interesting to say which 99.9% of the many "bloggers" don't it's safe to keep it for your own consumption.

It's not a case of not liking them or not.

shellyboo

ntlbell wrote: »

exactly so just leave it on your desktop, no one's going to read it then but you which was the whole idea behind them I thought. Unless you have something very interesting to say which 99.9% of the many "bloggers" don't it's safe to keep it for your own consumption.

It's not a case of not liking them or not.

Unless you share a family computer, have kids in the house, let mates use your laptop... in which case there's a very good chance that someone will read it.

ntlbell

shellyboo wrote: »

Unless you share a family computer, have kids in the house, let mates use your laptop... in which case there's a very good chance that someone will read it.

That's why we have user accounts.....

if you have kids create one for the kids...

If you want friends to use your laptop create a guest account....

and has said it can be encrypted so no one will be reading it....

spinandscribble

Dragan wrote: »

I keep log books. I nearly always have it with me along with my camera, it's where random drawings and writing and bull**** end up. Loads of gig tickets and other things stuck in their as well. Lots of stuff by my friends from houseparties etc which is nice.

I use the below, they are brilliant and you can get them all over the place now, Easons is always a safe bet.

http://www.paperblanks.com/

lol thats basically what i do but i get the leather bound books with the wrap around it so that the loose drawings/pictures/momentos don't fall out.

shellyboo

ntlbell wrote: »

That's why we have user accounts.....

if you have kids create one for the kids...

If you want friends to use your laptop create a guest account....

and has said it can be encrypted so no one will be reading it....

Or, just put it online so you don't have to fiddle about with your computer, encrypting word docs (which I wouldn't have the first clue how to do) and acting like an uptight, paranoid loser every time your mates want to check their email. I know which I'd prefer. But then, I hate the whole user accounts malarkey anyway.

togster

ntlbell wrote: »

That's why we have user accounts.....

if you have kids create one for the kids...

If you want friends to use your laptop create a guest account....

and has said it can be encrypted so no one will be reading it....

Solving the world problems one post at a time :rolleyes:

I like the idea of an online diary myself so thanks Thaed. I used to keep one, and my mam found it and read it. Thats when i got the lecture you can get AIDS from kissing (you can't can you?)

Gauge

I have an online diary too- I don't use it the same way as I would a paper one, mostly just to ramble. I read the online diaries of other people I find interesting, and livejournal has some decent communities to participate in as well.

allabouteve

ntlbell wrote: »

Trust me no one needs to keep their journal online unless you lead a very very interesting life.

Ever hear of Belle Du Jour?

Started as an online diary, very interesting stuff, in a non PG way.

ntlbell

shellyboo wrote: »

Or, just put it online so you don't have to fiddle about with your computer, encrypting word docs (which I wouldn't have the first clue how to do) and acting like an uptight, paranoid loser every time your mates want to check their email. I know which I'd prefer. But then, I hate the whole user accounts malarkey anyway.

hardly now, you could just have it in a folder somewhere.

your about two clicks away from encryption.

Your lack of knowledge or laziness is not an excuse.

You're basically saying I'll upload it _someone_ elses computer not encrypted because _that's_ handier and safer?

lol

ntlbell

ntlbell wrote: »

Your lack of knowledge or laziness is not an excuse.

You're basically saying I'll upload it _someone_ elses computer not encrypted because _that's_ handier and safer?

lol

Isn't that such a worthwhile contribution to the lounge. No wonder this place is teaming with interested users. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

ntlbell

Moonbaby wrote: »

Isn't that such a worthwhile contribution to the lounge. No wonder this place is teaming with interested users. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Maybe you picked up the point wrong.

It is, because one might not have the inclination to do something doesn't make it the wrong way to do it. a lot people will take the easy way out and there's nothing wrong with that, but because you don't fully understand something or have the will to learn != wrong

that's all.

monkeyfudge

spinandscribble wrote: »

lol thats basically what i do but i get the leather bound books with the wrap around it so that the loose drawings/pictures/momentos don't fall out.

Yep. The little Moleskine books. I keep one in my pocket at all times to write down ideas.

g'em

ntlbell - you might want to just be mindful of how some of your brusqueness comes across. Your posts have a tendency to come across rather rudely; now whether or not this is intentional is your call but I think a lot of folk would greatly appreciate it if you were perhaps a little less combative in your tone?

ntlbell

g'em wrote: »

ntlbell - you might want to just be mindful of how some of your brusqueness comes across. Your posts have a tendency to come across rather rudely; now whether or not this is intentional is your call but I think a lot of folk would greatly appreciate it if you were perhaps a little less combative in your tone?

I can sugar coat them no problem.

g'em

ntlbell wrote: »

I can sugar coat them no problem.

If you could that would be just superb. Normally at this point I post up my Group Hug photo but something tells me this isn't the place for it...

shellyboo

ntlbell wrote: »

hardly now, you could just have it in a folder somewhere.

Yes, because friends and relatives are renowned for not knowing how to open folders. :rolleyes: People are nosy, fact of life.

ntlbell wrote: »

Your lack of knowledge or laziness is not an excuse.

You're basically saying I'll upload it _someone_ elses computer not encrypted because _that's_ handier and safer?

lol

It's safer if you don't want people you KNOW reading your diary. It's not safer, obviously, if you don't want ANYONE reading your diary. And yes, it would be handier for me. My lack of knowledge and laziness about how to encrypt a word document will exist until such times as I feel the need to encrypt one. I'm sure it's very straightforward. How are you going to fix your superior attitude about my lack of knowledge?

ntlbell wrote: »

It is, because one might not have the inclination to do something doesn't make it the wrong way to do it. a lot people will take the easy way out and there's nothing wrong with that, but because you don't fully understand something or have the will to learn != wrong

that's all.

I never said that keeping it on your desktop was the wrong way to do it. I said that keeping it online was a good alternative, because it means people close to you are less likely to see it. I'm merely defending the idea. However, you clearly think that keeping a diary online - even if no-one else can read it - is somehow egotistical and selfish and wasting valuable space online

You were the one who hopped off Thaed for suggesting to keep the diary online... so perhaps you should follow your own advice in not criticising someone else's means of doing something just because it's not the way you would do it.

Permabear

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ntlbell

shellyboo wrote: »

Yes, because friends and relatives are renowned for not knowing how to open folders. :rolleyes: People are nosy, fact of life.

I wouldn't know I don't have relatives, friends or my kids routing around my laptop.

shellyboo wrote: »

I'm sure it's very straightforward. How are you going to fix your superior attitude about my lack of knowledge?

I'm not?

shellyboo wrote: »

is somehow egotistical and selfish and wasting valuable space online

I never said it was egotistical or selfish. it's not filling up some magic hard drive but when more nonsense is added to an all readly bulging infrastructure that doesn't really have the capacity from a network point of view due to our goverment not taken their figure out of it's bottom the more nonsense you have the more bandwidth is wasted viewing that nonsense, it's not just blogs it's any nonsense like 99% of you tube etc and when the 25-30 kids on street are looking at crap it means people who actually want to do something useful are bogged down

It's nothing to do with filling up the internet's "hard drive" this is where you addded your rolls eyes can I add mine?

shellyboo wrote: »

You were the one who hopped off Thaed for suggesting to keep the diary online... so perhaps you should follow your own advice in not criticising someone else's means of doing something just because it's not the way you would do it.

I wasn't even replying to thaed if you read the thread carefully I gave my opinion on online journals blogs etc thaed then replied to me I never at any stage in this thread engadged thaed.

JaneyMc

allabouteve wrote: »

Ever hear of Belle Du Jour?

Started as an online diary, very interesting stuff, in a non PG way.

Yeah, I had a nose on that after I started watching Secret Diary of a Call Girl, (if that's what you are talking about :pac:) which it supposedly based on. Series is great.
She even turned it into a book, which I have been thinking of getting.

I have a couple of diaries from my early teens.
I read back through them and can't believe some of the trivial things I was worried about and how immature my mind was.

Nevyn

Which the author of "The girl with the one track mind" did as well.

Creamy Goodness

Yup i have a diary. It's called my brain .

The one thing that college has screwed for me is i can not use a pen no more. I hate exam periods when i have to use a pen for two hours straight and it's the only time i use a pen nowadays.

shellyboo

Thaedydal wrote: »

Which the author of "The girl with the one track mind" did as well.

Yeah... her blog's gone to crap now though. I think those particular examples might actually be part of why blogs are so prevalent now... everyone thinks it's a fast track to a book deal!

Dudess

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

The one thing that college has screwed for me is i can not use a pen no more.

Me too. I type as much as I possibly can.

kept one since i was 13, on vol. 3 or 4 now but i havent written in it for... at least half a year i'd say.
also lazy about pen-writing but wouldn't keep one online

as for privacy, making my handwriting a deliberate scrawl only I can read, ftw.

CeilingCat

Aw I miss keeping a written journal... I kept one for years and years but then I got rid of them all because I didn't want them to be found and read by others. Very sorry I did that now

It's true about handwriting it being more therapeutic than typing it.... don't know why that is, more personal I guess.

Now, I have a blogger account that only I can read but I rarely post anymore.

RacoonQueen

I keep a diary so that I remember to do stuff. Does that count?

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

The one thing that college has screwed for me is i can not use a pen no more. I hate exam periods when i have to use a pen for two hours straight and it's the only time i use a pen nowadays.

I'm the exact same now because of college aswell!

Dragan

JaneyMc wrote: »

I have a couple of diaries from my early teens.
I read back through them and can't believe some of the trivial things I was worried about and how immature my mind was.

The whole point of such things is to be able to look back and see how much personal development may have taken place.:)

shellyboo wrote: »

Yeah... her blog's gone to crap now though. I think those particular examples might actually be part of why blogs are so prevalent now... everyone thinks it's a fast track to a book deal!

Very true. If people actually knew how hard it is to get a book deal they would think twice before starting their efforts.

ntlbell

Dragan wrote: »

Very true. If people actually knew how hard it is to get a book deal they would think twice before starting their efforts.

It's a very good time to get one tho.

Global recession everyone is out there looking for "more" "define me"

Start a half decent self help bolloxy site with a half decent post of some re-hashed dribble from any self help book _every_ day

decent bit of SEO/Marketing and the book deal shouldn't be too long in coming.

You just need the bit of staying power to get it done every day which a lot of people lack but if you can do it and have the right topic there's plenty of people doing it.

Dragan

ntlbell wrote: »

You just need the bit of staying power to get it done every day which a lot of people lack but if you can do it and have the right topic there's plenty of people doing it.

Depending on what you are writing it is quite tough to keep the effort going. I've been trying various things for years, had publishers interest twice and still just couldn't find the story that would make me want to finish it.

I've finally found it now, so hopefully i can get interest going in the right places again.

No self help from me though.

Self destruction, maybe.

Red Hand

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GirlInterrupted

I've kept a handwritten diary since I was twelve years old and I'm twenty six now. I spend about twenty minutes a day, with very rare exceptions, on it, and sometimes when I look back at my childish self, I can be reduced to tears or laughter, sometimes both.

At difficult times in my life I've found it useful to go over old diaries from previous difficult times and try to gain perspective from how inconsequential those formerly huge problems are now. It doesn't always work, but I've always been glad I have this link to my younger self.

I have been gifted a plain, leather bound A4 book every New Years Day since I was that 12 year old, by my wonderful mother, who has kept a diary since she was nineteen, the age at which she met my father, and she is now about to turn sixty.

Its been a fulfilling thing to do, and I sometimes feel an odd nostalgia, for the girl I used to be, the little dreams I had, and what I used to consider a problem.

Crumble Froo

i got my whole crazy moving to australia thing going on as of next week, and given im trying to view the whole thing as a new experience, and something to savour and embrace, im gonna be as offline as possible, and try keep a diary, which could well be interesting in a year or so.

always nice to see how irrelevant troubles are a while later... just keeps reminding you you can get through stuff.

Pythia

I don't have a diary excatly, it's an organiser. I just write in things that I need to do and at what time, etc. I found when I left school I missed the 'homework notebook' so I've kept up one, of sorts.