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2008 Irish boxer of the year

  • 02-01-2009 11:41pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭


    Bernard Dunne Beat former world champ Machado, world title challengers at bantam Marchiano and Faccio

    Andy Lee Beat Falliga, got upset by Brain Vera, beat Willie Gibbs.

    John Duddy beat Walid Smichet and Charles Howe

    Matthew Macklin beat Yori boy campas, Cheka and Ajetovic.

    Paul McLoskey beat Garinca, former lightweight world champ Bazan, English and former british champion Nigel Wright, Beat former Britsh, Commonwealth, European and IBO world champ Colin Lynes to win the 140 lb Britsh title

    Martin Rogan won the prizefighter tournament and beat Audley Harrison

    Martin Lindsay beat Hayward, Marc Callaghan, and Derry Matthews

    Brian Magee beat Nilsen, Wright, Cover and McGuire to win the British title

    Paul Hyland beat Nicolae, Marc Callaghan, Eugene Heagney and lost to Phildelphia fighter Gonzalez

    Patrick Hyland beat Ghiompirica, Dobbs, Paul Griffin for the Irish title, Deakin, Munika, Gicharu, Martinez

    Edward Hyland beat Kevin O Hara for the Irish title, Munika and Dailey

    Dean Byrne beat Lynks, Gonzalez, Spruiell, Rios Gil

    Henry Coyle beat Cook, Blackburn, Aragon, Alan Moore, Savrinovics

    Jim Rock Beat Jonjo Finnegan to win his 4th Irish title in as many weight classes

    Andrew Murray beat Lothian, Ivanovs, De Jesus, and Peter McDonagh for the Irish title

    Stephen Haughian beat Saiz, Langella, and Grassellini in a rematch

    Oisin Fagan beat Carden, Sakara, and lost to Amir Khan after breaking his leg in the bout.

    Michael Gomez beat Baz Carey twice, Brophy, Long and lost to Amir Khan despite hurting and knocking the commonwealth champion down

    Peter McDonaghAfter losing to Lauri in his European title bid and to Andrew Murray for the Irish title, McDonagh turned 2008 around beating canadian prospect Florescu abroad and picking up the Southern area title againt previously undefeated Lee Purdy


    Other: including but of course not limited to Neil Sinclair, Jason McKay, Cairan Healy, Eugene Heagney, James and Jamie Moore, Ian Tims.

    Best Irish fighter in 2008 44 votes

    Bernard Dunne
    0% 0 votes
    John Duddy
    6% 3 votes
    Matthew Macklin
    13% 6 votes
    Paul McLoskey
    2% 1 vote
    Andy Lee
    52% 23 votes
    Patrick Hyland
    11% 5 votes
    Paul Hyland
    2% 1 vote
    Edward Hyland
    0% 0 votes
    Michael Gomez
    0% 0 votes
    Oisin Fagan
    0% 0 votes
    Henry Coyle
    2% 1 vote
    Stephen Haughian
    0% 0 votes
    Jim Rock
    0% 0 votes
    Martin Rogan
    2% 1 vote
    Martin Lindsay
    4% 2 votes
    Brian Magee
    0% 0 votes
    Peter McDonagh
    2% 1 vote
    Andrew Murray
    0% 0 votes
    Dean Byrne
    0% 0 votes
    Other (please state who)
    0% 0 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    Hard to go against Mc Closkey


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭AKK


    Katie Taylor..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Sorry guys forgot to mention this is a poll for irish pro boxers only.

    Ill put one up for amatures as well. There are the obvious choices such as

    Katie Taylor
    Darren Sutherland
    Kenny Egan
    Paddy Barnes

    Any more suggestions? Taking into account all tournaments throughout 2008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    I'm going with Martin Rogan - The dude has had an amazing year and long may it continue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    Has to be McCloskey, two solid wins over tough Mexicans followed up with quality wins over Nigel Wright and Colin Lynes means he is miles above anyone else this year.

    He's really shown his ability this year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Make sure you actually vote on the poll otherwise it wont count. (unless you pick other and then specify in the thread what you mean)

    Id like to see this poll with the most votes out of them all :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 103 ✭✭Mazletov


    McCloskey. British champion, 4-0 for the year against 2 Mexicans with decent records and 2 Brits with good records. That's a better year than any other Irish fighter by some distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    Andy Lee for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭sligobhoy67


    Big Ears wrote: »
    Has to be McCloskey, two solid wins over tough Mexicans followed up with quality wins over Nigel Wright and Colin Lynes means he is miles above anyone else this year.

    He's really shown his ability this year.

    +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 144 ✭✭steve-collins


    has to be mccloskey hands down . four big wins and what a performance for the british title


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    joepenguin wrote: »
    Sorry guys forgot to mention this is a poll for irish pro boxers only.

    Ill put one up for amatures as well. There are the obvious choices such as

    Katie Taylor
    Darren Sutherland
    Kenny Egan
    Paddy Barnes

    Any more suggestions? Taking into account all tournaments throughout 2008

    I can help you out tomorrow Joe with a list of boxers for this poll if you want. Just to fecking tired to concentrate at the mo.

    For this poll I had to go with McCloskey with Lyndsey and Patrick Hyland second and third.

    I hope these two fight next year, it would be a cracking fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Cheers hangballlouie. Certainly loads of cracking fights that could be made among Irish fighters next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    joepenguin wrote: »
    Cheers hangballlouie. Certainly loads of cracking fights that could be made among Irish fighters next year.

    I couldn't send this to you as a private message Joe for some reason.[/FONT][/SIZE]
    I hope this is ok.
    If anyone else has anyone to add to this list that would be great before Joe posts it, but I think I have got the main contenders.
    Some are household names, others not so.

    Let me know if you need anything clarified.

    Wayne
    Hangballlouie

    1. Katie Taylor - won gold at the EU Championships in Liverpool. Retained her Witch Cup Title in August and followed up with her win at the World Championships in China. Won boxer of tournament; she is the pound for pound best female boxer of the world and she also scored a couple of goals for the Irish women’s soccer team. Hopefully she is a future Olympian? Is there anything this girl can’t do?

    2. Debbie Rogers- club mate of Katie Taylor had her most successful year to date winning bronze medal at the EU Championship.

    3. Ken Egan- Gold medallist at the EU Championships before winning a silver medal at the Olympics. Many pundits believe Egan was robbed of a gold medal due to hometown advantage. Recently decided to stay as an amateur and will lead the Irish boxing team as captain at the London 2012 Olympics. Irish Senior National Champion.

    4. Paddy Barnes – Former Commonwealth Champion, was first to qualify for the Olympics where he won a bronze medal that followed up his silver medal win at the EU Championships. Irish Senior National Champion.

    5. Darren Sutherland – Another who won gold at the EU Championships, this former Brendan Ingle prodigy won bronze at the Olympics after losing to his long time rival James Degale, recently made a successful start to his professional boxing career. National Senior Champion.

    6. Jamie Kavanagh – This young member of Crumlin Boxing Club won silver at the World Youth Championships in November, runner up in the Irish Senior Championships. He is Irish National Champion at youth level.

    7. Ray Moylett- Became the first Irish gold medallist at the World Youth Championships with an unbelievable performance. Bronze medallist at the Junior Olympics. Irish Youth National Champion.

    8. Con Sheehan – Silver medallist at EU championships. Irish Senior National Champion.

    9. John Joe Nevin- EU gold medallist. Last 16 at the Olympics. Irish Senior National Champion.

    10. John Joe Joyce- Last 16 at the Beijing Olympics. Lost on a call-back. Irish Senior National Champion.

    11. David Oliver Joyce- EU gold medallist. Irish Senior National Champion.

    12. David Joe Joyce – Bronze medal at the World Youth Championships. Irish Youth National Champion

    13. Thomas Mccarthy - Bronze medallist at the World Youth Championships. Irish National Youth Champion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I went with Duddy. I don't rate McCloskey much and he hasn't showed me anythinh aproaching TOP ten in the world. He's European level at very best.
    Lee has yet to show as well. Duddy has shown that he can win and has never lost and has fought some very decent fighters.

    As for the amateurs; it has to be Taylor. She is the only true winner of the lot and is so so dominant. All the others I admire and respect; but they just have not had the consistent dominance and success that Taylor has had. They don't even come close. Egan did brilliant as did te bronze lads; but still
    a notch and more below Taylor.
    Man, she is the best amateur female fighter on the planet across all weights, and has been since 2005; unreal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    Id say thats pretty much it. Didnt want to keep it to just Katie Taylor and the olympians because there are many amatures in Ireland wo have achieved an awful lot in 2008.

    Ill leave it for another day though just in case anyone wants to add to it.

    Thanks Hang :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    walshb wrote: »
    I went with Duddy. I don't rate McCloskey much and he hasn't showed me anythinh aproaching TOP ten in the world. He's European level at very best.
    Lee has yet to show as well. Duddy has shown that he can win and has never lost and has fought some very decent fighters.

    It's not about how you rate the fighters overall though, it's how you rate their performances this year.

    You've rated a dreadful performance(in the main) over journeyman Walid Smichet and a fight against a no hoper(Charles Howe), who was knocked out in a round in his fight before Duddy and knocked out in a round in his fight after, yet Duddy went 10 rounds without even flooring him, over Paul McCloskey beating two solid journeyman(of a similar level to Smichet) with ease, aswell as beating a solid British level fighter(Nigel Wright) and a European level fighter(Colin Lynes) where in the main he dominated Lynes and stopped him and won the British title to go with it.


    The only thing I can say is ????............and this goes for others who voted for Duddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭sston


    walshb wrote: »
    I went with Duddy. I don't rate McCloskey much and he hasn't showed me anythinh aproaching TOP ten in the world. He's European level at very best.
    Lee has yet to show as well. Duddy has shown that he can win and has never lost and has fought some very decent fighters.

    Dear god! I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but this about sums walshb's knowledge of boxing.

    What "decent fighters" has Duddy fought in 2008 because I never heard about those fights? Meanwhile McCloskey has stopped a proven European champ like Colin Lynes after taking the fight on a weeks notice! He also beat a decent fighter in Nigel Wright, a former world champ in Cesar Bazan and a decent Mexican, Manuel Garnica. I'd have Martin Rogan, Brian Magee, Bernard Dunne, Martin Lindsay Andrew Murray and even Andy Lee (despite his defeat) as all doing better than Duddy in 2008.

    The only award Duddy should be in for last year was fight of the year with Smichet and the fact that he had a fight of the year candidate with a guy who according to your credentials (as applied to Bernard Dunne) was worse than a bum (your term, not mine) says an awful lot about what was a disastrous 2008 for Duddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 13663046


    It was Brian magee for me, what a body shot to rock mcguire, although I was torned between him and Andy lee, only for lee's lose

    Kevin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    sston wrote: »
    Dear god! I know everyone is entitled to their opinion but this about sums walshb's knowledge of boxing.

    What "decent fighters" has Duddy fought in 2008 because I never heard about those fights? Meanwhile McCloskey has stopped a proven European champ like Colin Lynes after taking the fight on a weeks notice! He also beat a decent fighter in Nigel Wright, a former world champ in Cesar Bazan and a decent Mexican, Manuel Garnica. I'd have Martin Rogan, Brian Magee, Bernard Dunne, Martin Lindsay Andrew Murray and even Andy Lee (despite his defeat) as all doing better than Duddy in 2008.

    The only award Duddy should be in for last year was fight of the year with Smichet and the fact that he had a fight of the year candidate with a guy who according to your credentials (as applied to Bernard Dunne) was worse than a bum (your term, not mine) says an awful lot about what was a disastrous 2008 for Duddy.

    So, now you are telling me how to vote?:rolleyes:
    As for my knowledge: I'm not the one who thinks Dunne can
    win a world title mate:rolleyes:

    I said I didn't really rate Paul. He is a close second on the list; just not my cup of tea. What is your problem?

    2008 was not a great year for Duddy, but still remained unbetaten.
    Look, have you some sort of personal vendetta against me; cos if you do, you can go f&&* off with it!

    Big Ears, I know well it can be tempting when voting to take into account
    their career performances and I haven't in this case. Success wise, Paul is probably number 1. I just don't rate him very high and really do not like his boxing style.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    walshb wrote: »


    Big Ears, I know well it can be tempting when voting to take into account
    their career performances and I haven't in this case. Success wise, Paul is probably number 1. I just don't rate him very high and really do not like his boxing style.

    I voted for McCloskey yet I am in agreement with you Walsh in regards Paul's style and chances for much more success. I personally don't like watching him box.
    But I had to go with him for the simple reason that he did more than any other Irish boxer this year.
    I rate 4-5 irish boxers with greater potential than McCloskey, but I can't go against him for 2008.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    katie taylor.... noooooooooo question


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭sston


    walshb wrote: »
    So, now you are telling me how to vote?:rolleyes:

    No, as I said in the post everyone is entitled to their opinion.
    walshb wrote: »
    As for my knowledge: I'm not the one who thinks Dunne can win a world title mate:rolleyes:

    I'd like you to find the post where I ever said that. In fact I've never even said Dunne deserves a world title fight. However the BUSINESS of boxing dictates that he'll probably be deemed worthy and if I had a problem with that then I'd have a problem with 90% of world title fights in boxing.
    walshb wrote: »
    2008 was not a great year for Duddy, but still remained unbetaten. Look, have you some sort of personal vendetta against me; cos if you do, you can go f&&* off with it!

    2008 was a great year for McCloskey and he remained unbeaten. too. Don't have time for personal vendetta's. I'll leave that to you and your one for Bernard Dunne.

    Finally you constantly accuse people here of ignoring your post and not answering your questions but you have ignored mine.

    By your criteria (as applied to Bernard Dunne) was Walid Smichet a "bum"?

    Again your term not mine, I wouldn't call anyone brave enough to step between the ropes and give a decent account of themselves (as Smichet did) a bum.

    But I can't see how you could consider Dunne one and not Smichet (or indeed Charles Howe one for that matter) if we're applying your criteria yet beating 2 "bums" is good enough to win Irish pro of the year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    SSTON, simple; don't dictate or try to tell me how I should vote.
    You don't agree with my views, ignore them and ignore me.
    You disagree with my choice, tough ****. It's my choice, not yours.

    As for the rest of you post regarding Dunne; that's a total separate
    discussion. I will not engage with you here about it!

    Less of your arrogant attitude just because I happen to see
    certain boxing subjects differently than yourself; basically, get over yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    By the way, any man who steps between the ropes is a brave man; the word 'bum' isn't meant to be taken as a derogatory term, although it does imply a crap boxer. Not to me

    It's a well known term in boxing for a fighter who is simply not up to it.
    Journey man is similar.

    A Bum FIGHTER to me is a fighter well below world level.

    I really use the term loosely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    katie taylor.... noooooooooo question

    Alright Chief. This is a pro only poll but Ill be putting up an amature one also which you can vote for taylot on. In the meantime let us know here who you think was the best irish pro was this year :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    ok joepenguin ,i like my boxing but not up to date really dont even know some of the names on the list so i would do the poll an injustice by voting..thanks anyway(keep those hands up though john duddy)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭sston


    walshb wrote: »
    SSTON, simple; don't dictate or try to tell me how I should vote.
    You don't agree with my views, ignore them and ignore me.
    You disagree with my choice, tough ****. It's my choice, not yours.

    As for the rest of you post regarding Dunne; that's a total separate
    discussion. I will not engage with you here about it!

    Less of your arrogant attitude just because I happen to see
    certain boxing subjects differently than yourself; basically, get over yourself

    Seemed to have touched a nerve here! As I've already said twice everyone is entitled to their opinion. Forums and message boards wouldn't be much fun otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    sston wrote: »
    Seemed to have touched a nerve here! As I've already said twice everyone is entitled to their opinion. Forums and message boards wouldn't be much fun otherwise.

    No, you were just being an ass and I thought I'd point it out.
    I never asked you to comment on my selection. Why the hell
    have a poll if we are then going to be 'ridiculed' for our selection?

    You are the one coming across as touchy; like I said, my selection
    obviously got to you and you felt the need to TRY and ridicule it and my
    knowledge of the sport.

    But, others too voted Duddy; so you are being an ass to them too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    ok joepenguin ,i like my boxing but not up to date really dont even know some of the names on the list so i would do the poll an injustice by voting..thanks anyway(keep those hands up though john duddy)

    Ah ya cant leave us with a null and void vote!! :P :D All votes are appreciated, even if you only know a couple of names there, just vote the one in your eyes done the most in 2008 (whether you watched one fight all year or 100!!!) Its the same names being voted for anyway by everyone.

    Ps thanks for all the votes guys, its nearer the number of "international fighter of the year 2008" poll, but not quite there... keep them comin!!


    Cheers :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Anyone who voted for Duddy needs their head examined, Smichet gave him all he could handle then he fought a "tomato can" in Charles Howe.

    And Walsh don't get all flowery on us "don't dictate or try to tell me how I should vote." or being "ridiculed' for our selection"

    Get over yourself.

    What I find amazing is that Duddy will struggle to victory in his two bouts in 08 yet Dunne will come back after a devastating defeat and totally outclass his opponent... Oh wait a minute Dunne is facing bums..:rolleyes: you can't have it everyway..

    Boards.ie: Definition, Bum; Depending on who the "bum" is fighting.


    BTW neither of these guys should even be considered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Anyone who voted for Duddy needs their head examined, Smichet gave him all he could handle then he fought a "tomato can" in Charles Howe.

    And Walsh don't get all flowery on us "don't dictate or try to tell me how I should vote." or being "ridiculed' for our selection"

    Get over yourself.

    What I find amazing is that Duddy will struggle to victory in his two bouts in 08 yet Dunne will come back after a devastating defeat and totally outclass his opponent... Oh wait a minute Dunne is facing bums..:rolleyes: you can't have it everyway..

    Boards.ie: Definition, Bum; Depending on who the "bum" is fighting.


    BTW neither of these guys should even be considered.

    Look, of all the posts and replies; only you and that other perosn have stooped to ridiculing selector votes. The only two:rolleyes:

    Now, we know you have an agenda with me regardiNg Dunne; leave it and leave it now. I'm finished with your incessant stalking regardig Dunne.

    You think Dunne's a fine fighter, great for you; go vote for him, but don't come on here trying to stir up **** on a thread that is designed as a
    poll selection where anyone has the right to select any fighter; without wondering if some Knob is going to reply ridiculing their selection.

    Keep it up, and I'll close the thread. Actually, no, I'll just ban you!

    You have already ruined a few threads, leave this one be!

    Respect others rights to choose who they think fit!

    It's simple and it's courtesy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭conceited


    I voted walsh best irish boxer of 08.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Paul McCLoskey for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    conceited wrote: »
    I voted walsh best irish boxer of 08.

    Cheers mate:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Look, of all the posts and replies; only you and that other perosn have stooped to ridiculing selector votes. The only two:rolleyes:

    Now, we know you have an agenda with me regardiNg Dunne; leave it and leave it now. I'm finished with your incessant stalking regardig Dunne.

    You think Dunne's a fine fighter, great for you; go vote for him, but don't come on here trying to stir up **** on a thread that is designed as a
    poll selection where anyone has the right to select any fighter; without wondering if some Knob is going to reply ridiculing their selection.

    Keep it up, and I'll close the thread. Actually, no, I'll just ban you!

    You have already ruined a few threads, leave this one be!

    Respect others rights to choose who they think fit!

    It's simple and it's courtesy!


    Grow up, nobody is ridiculing you - just disagreeing, and by the way why are you the only one that seems to have a problem ?

    What do you want in this thread ? votes, and no opinions. That defeats the purpose.

    Say what you will Walsh, but not once have I disrespected any poster on this board or any board for that matter.

    And the treat of a ban is just down right childish, I contribute here as much as the next guy.

    Oh and I already said my vote goes to Rogan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Grow up, nobody is ridiculing you - just disagreeing, and by the way why are you the only one that seems to have a problem ?

    What do you want in this thread ? votes, and no opinions. That defeats the purpose.

    Say what you will Walsh, but not once have I disrespected any poster on this board or any board for that matter.

    And the treat of a ban is just down right childish, I contribute here as much as the next guy.

    Oh and I already said my vote goes to Rogan.

    Disagreeing is damn fine. I think I have asked you before to look at some
    of Big Ear's replies and disagreements. Go take a look, you might learn about politeness and civility.

    Anyway, you know and I know that you simply are stalking me.
    Had I known that my lack of enthusiasm for Bernard would have riled you
    this much, I would have kept my mouth shut. Either way, why you felt the need to get involved with a minor dispute me and SSTON had, I don't know!

    You do contribute as much as the next guy; but your lack of manners at times lets you down. Fine, disagree with me and my views, but why be so smug and
    smarmy? It only reflects badly on you.

    You wanna' start fresh and wipe the slate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    BTW, I was tempted to select Lee for the manner in which he took his defeat. He showed so much heart and balas considering his whole
    team let him down by having him fight a super middle whilst he weighed middle. Lee really showed courage and heart and was still firing back.

    Please, tell me that loss was in 2008. I assumed it was and want to be sure?

    Anyway, he came back and beat a decent Gibbs in a hard and tough
    scrap; but it was his loss where he showed me his real mettle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Fellas, please don't ridicule me for this selection, had I selected him:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    Disagreeing is damn fine. I think I have asked you before to look at some
    of Big Ear's replies and disagreements. Go take a look, you might learn about politeness and civility.

    Anyway, you know and I know that you simply are stalking me.
    Had I known that my lack of enthusiasm for Bernard would have riled you
    this much, I would have kept my mouth shut.

    You do contribute as much as the next guy; but your lack of manners at times lets you down. Fine, disagree with me and my views, but why be so smug and
    smarmy? It only reflects badly on you.

    You wanna' start fresh and wipe the slate?

    Smarmy, Ridiculing, not being civil / polite - honestly I have never heard those words to describe me. You are taking it personally when you shouldn't. This boards is tame very tame compared to others and I don't seem to offend anyone but you walsh - But If I offended any poster on here [walsh included] I do apologizes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Smarmy, Ridiculing, not being civil / polite - honestly I have never heard those words to describe me. You are taking it personally when you shouldn't. This boards is tame very tame compared to others and I don't seem to offend anyone but you walsh - But If I offended any poster on here [walsh included] I do apologizes.

    Well, T.K.O, if you knew me you would know well I was not offended. I am one of the most tolerant and liberal guys on boards.

    I just don't see why when a poll is suggested and many fighters are listed, some have to be so disagreeing. Like I said, Big Ears disagreed; but go look
    at his disagreement. It was simply a disagreement.

    SSTON and yourself used your disagreement as some sort of personal attack; don't tell me it was not, or that your disagreement was exactly the same
    as Big Ears. That's crap. SSTO even used his disagreement to 'ridicule' my knowledge; sad if you ask me!. Why he did it; because he and I disagreed before and he obviously takes
    disagreements personally. Again, sad!

    As I said, it didn't bother me at all; but the principle of the matter did. Folks should feel free to vote for who they see fit without silly personal
    atacks on their choices.

    I don't need an apology; just lets try disagree without geting so sensitive and personal.

    Now, got get me on the possibility of Lee as a selction;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    Dude if you have strong view on a certain matter and people disagree with you - you cannot escape that in another thread - people do not simply forget when the thread title is changed - you should be able to take the criticism. I could go on but there is no point...


    That other dudes comment about your knowledge of the game, hardly deserved a pound of flesh. It was a nothing remark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    T-K-O wrote: »
    Dude if you have strong view on a certain matter and people disagree with you - you cannot escape that in another thread - people do not simply forget when the thread title is changed - you should be able to take the criticism. I could go on but there is no point...


    That other dudes comment about your knowledge of the game, hardly deserved a pound of flesh. It was a nothing remark.

    What?

    Like I said, had I known the Bernard issue would have irritated you so much, I would have said nothing.

    Anyway, I'll not discuss Bernard anymore. We will wait and see.
    Should he beat a TOP ten or world champ, then all will be settled; until then, it is futile to keep going over it

    Criticism? If that's what you call stalking a poster and constantly bringing up Dunne, then so be it:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 891 ✭✭✭conceited


    You lads are like a pack of little bitches.
    Will yee ever stfu?
    Thread after thread of bs is kinda getting old now at this stage girls.
    In all fairness your grown men ......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,309 ✭✭✭T-K-O


    walshb wrote: »
    What?

    Like I said, had I known the Bernard issue would have irritated you so much, I would have said nothing.

    Anyway, I'll not discuss Bernard anymore. We will wait and see.
    Should he beat a TOP ten or world champ, then all will be settled; until then, it is futile to keep going over it

    Criticism? If that's what you call stalking a poster and constantly bringing up Dunne, then so be it:rolleyes:

    I didnt bring Dunnes name into this thread - in fact you mentioned him before I did.

    Am I criticizing or stalking you ? Erroneous on both counts. It's a discussion - you call it stalking it you like but this is a public board.

    Criticism, yes. When that other dude made the comment about your knowledge you reacted like he stole your first born, banging on about ridicule...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,359 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    conceited wrote: »
    You lads are like a pack of little bitches.
    Will yee ever stfu?
    Thread after thread of bs is kinda getting old now at this stage girls.
    In all fairness your grown men ......

    What can I do, I have somebody stalking me!

    BTW, your 'sign offs' are stupid!

    "I hate english people".:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    I wasnt going to put Duddy in the poll originally to be honest. He had a poor 2008. Is the Hearns fight still going ahead? He hasnt fought in nearly 7 months now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,004 ✭✭✭Big Ears


    joepenguin wrote: »
    I wasnt going to put Duddy in the poll originally to be honest. He had a poor 2008. Is the Hearns fight still going ahead? He hasnt fought in nearly 7 months now.

    No it's off because of his promotional disputes, Irish Ropes have a card around Paddy's day and they say if Duddy agrees to fight on it they will release him from his contract. The card they are rumoured to be trying to put together is Andy Lee v Walid Smichet and John Duddy v Brian Vera. I'd be delighted to see it come off and I think neither fight would be a bad one for either man.

    Although Duddy will need to significantly step it up later on in the year after that(should he take it), if a fight with Ronald Hearns could be reorganised it would be great for him as Hearns comes with a really good profile but is only an okay fighter. HBO however were pretty pissed off with Duddy's withdrawal from that bout and it'll take him to generate some interest again before they'd agree to put that fight on a major card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭joepenguin


    *bump* get your votes in :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,445 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Just to clarify, this is for Irish Professional boxer of the year right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,207 ✭✭✭Hangballlouie


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Just to clarify, this is for Irish Professional boxer of the year right?

    Yeah, just the pro's.

    There is an amateur one on here also.


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