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Private bus operators take case against Dublin Bus

  • 31-12-2008 1:32am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/finance/2008/1231/1230581504763.html
    Private bus operators take case against Dublin Bus

    PRIVATE BUS operators Circleline and Mortons Coaches have lodged a multimillion euro law suit against Dublin Bus alleging anti-competitive practices on bus routes from Lucan and Celbridge to Dublin city centre, writes John Collins.

    Circleline ceased trading last June after it claimed Dublin Bus "flooded" the routes with buses, a claim the latter has consistently denied.

    The two bus companies issued proceedings just before the Christmas break and are seeking to have the case admitted to the Competition Court list of the High Court. They are being advised by BCM Hanby Wallace solicitors.

    A spokeswoman for Dublin Bus confirmed that the State-owned company had received correspondence from Circleline. She said Dublin Bus would be "defending the case vigorously".

    "We have stated time and time again that we reject any claims by Circleline. All our services on these routes were operated in accordance with the service authorisation given to us by the Department of Transport."

    Speaking to The Irish Times yesterday, Paul Morton, managing director of Mortons Coaches, said Dublin Bus had engaged in "predatory practices" on the routes in question.

    "We hope to prove that Dublin Bus abused its dominant position and effectively forced us to cease operations on two routes where we were providing a valued service to thousands of commuters," said Mr Morton. "I hope this case will show that Dublin Bus is subject to the same competition rules as all private bus operators, and that it can no longer use State funding in an anti-competitive manner."

    According to Circleline, more than 11,000 people a week used its service and 3,600 of these had annual smart cards costing €675.

    The firm had 27 staff when it ceased trading last June.

    Mr Morton said the company would be placed in liquidation in the coming weeks.

    Circleline, which was a joint venture with Bartons Transport in Maynooth, Co Kildare, had invested more than €2.5 million in its fleet, Mr Morton said.

    Mortons won the licence to operate the routes in 2003, and upgraded its capacity in 2006 when it leased 12 new buses to service the route.

    Circleline had a licence to operate the routes from the Department of Transport but said they had become uneconomic since Dublin Bus "flooded it" with buses since April 2007.

    Circleline incurred losses of €166,000 in 2007, its first full year of trading.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Some interesting timelines here too.....
    Circleline had a licence to operate the routes from the Department of Transport but said they had become uneconomic since Dublin Bus "flooded it" with buses since April 2007.

    Circleline incurred losses of €166,000 in 2007, its first full year of trading.

    Was the new Circleline Bus set up specifically to be sacrificed on this mans altar ?

    I have a suspicion that Mr Mortons window of opportunity may have shut which may see his claims being somewhat more forensically analyzed than might have happened earlier.

    So we now have TWO companies with the same beneficial owner taking this action..??
    Interesting times ahead.... ;0


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    I did say some time back on a related thread that personally I feel that Morton is looking more at the compensation than the rewards of profit on the route as a cash cow. It will be interesting when Paul Morton is asked in court what happened to the 27 staff and 12 buses he had to release when he went "bust" only to find that much of them are still under his payroll and in active use albeit under different arms of Mortons. There will be more mud found out then that may scare many a private operator from running a scheduled bus and the perilous economics of it all regardless of what DB may or may not have done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,186 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Circleline isn't solely Morton, Bartons of Maynooth are also involved in that firm...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭Ham'nd'egger


    MYOB wrote: »
    Circleline isn't solely Morton, Bartons of Maynooth are also involved in that firm...

    Point taken but nonetheless, the "redundant" staff and buses may well come back to haunt this case over time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭cast_iron


    Hamndegger wrote: »
    Point taken but nonetheless, the "redundant" staff and buses may well come back to haunt this case over time.
    Well, for a start, is Circleline not on the way out in any case?

    Also, it should not make any difference where/if the empoloyees are working now. that comapany went bust - end of. It shouldn't matter if the owner just so happened to be able able to provide employment in another comapny of his - from a legal stand point anyway.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭HydeRoad


    Hamndegger wrote: »
    Point taken but nonetheless, the "redundant" staff and buses may well come back to haunt this case over time.

    Most of the buses are sold, some to the UK. Most of the staff are gone too, bar three or four who were taken on as school bus drivers.

    What's your point?


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