deadlift - to shrug or not to shrug

beggars_bush

right

i've been trying to get the deadlift right - but its not working. my squat has really been producing results, and i think if i got the deadlift technique right, then i'd see results with this also

i've looked up a lot of info on the deadlift and there is conflicting advice about the lifting phase and whether a shoulder shrug and calf raise should be incorporated

any advice or comments please

amazingemmet

Neither should be in corporated the correct technique involves pulling the shoulder blades down and back.

Remmy

Im confused.Do you want to incorporate a shrug at the upper portion of your deadlift or do you aim to use it as a supplementary exercise to improve your deadlift?

Esse85

I could only imagine the damage if a calf raise was implemented.

brianthebard

Where did you read about a calf raise? I don't know how that would even be possible if everything else was done right.

beggars_bush

ignore what i've said

maybe i've been watching videos on the first stage of power cleans

way too much info on the brain

celestial

Yes why would you shrug. Back straight, bring bar up, lower bar down.

Remmy

This wasn't asked but for more trap emphasis,when full extension is achieved you can lean back a little into it.

Hanley

Remmy wrote: »

This wasn't asked but for more trap emphasis,when full extension is achieved you can lean back a little into it.

What do you mean by "lean back"? Where's the leaning back coming from??

brianthebard

its a deadlift/back extension combo. All the cool kids are doing it.

Hanley

brianthebard wrote: »

its a deadlift/back extension combo. All the cool kids are doing it.

I was really hoping it wasn't!!

Roper

I find when I'm doing a really heavy deadlift, if I add in a calf raise, an upright row and do it on a Bosu ball while singing and doing the actions of the Birdy Song, I get the ultimate lift.

Don't knock it til you've tried it.

brianthebard

Whats the pump like from that roper?

Roper

brianthebard wrote: »

Whats the pump like from that roper?

Not great, it takes me ages to inflate the ball beforehand. I want an electric one for Christmas.

celestial

Roper wrote: »

I find when I'm doing a really heavy deadlift, if I add in a calf raise, an upright row and do it on a Bosu ball while singing and doing the actions of the Birdy Song, I get the ultimate lift.

Don't knock it til you've tried it.

Did a 30K a year gym instructor teach you that one?

Roper

celestial wrote: »

Did a 30K a year gym instructor teach you that one?

No this guy was teaching for free, knowledge like that should be free. It belongs to the people.

Remmy

Hanley wrote: »

I was really hoping it wasn't!!

I apologise.Is it detrimental to lower back health?

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beggars_bush wrote: »

right

i've been trying to get the deadlift right - but its not working.

any advice or comments please

go onto youtube and type in

deadlift rippetoe

look at the first few videos, i found them really helpful, i really enjoy deadlifting when i feel i've got the technique right

this is a goodun', he says a couple of others things in other in his other vids so watch a few of them so you catch everything

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Syt7A23YnpA

Hanley

Remmy wrote: »

I apologise.Is it detrimental to lower back health?

Very much so. It's pretty much the exact same as pulling a deadlift with a round back!!

Remmy

ok thanks for that!I have never looked on them in that respect!