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A taxi driver's advice to Joe Public!
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22-12-2008 11:17am#1
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whiskeyman wrote: »Has anyone ever done this I wonder??
Surely the boys in the rank would have something to say?
I am a taxi driver and let me assure you that I do it all the time. I have also gotten out of taxis that don't know the road that I live on; it's not a back street so there isn't much excuse for not knowing it.
To clarify some of OP's points;
1) A driver normally cannot refuse a journey in excess of 30KM but it can be refused with good reason. While it's not legally defined what is a good reason, I'd include heading to pick up somebody else, heading home or finishing up or refuel would probably come in as due reason. The load one can carry is also fair due to refuse; yesterday I picked up two gentlemen with a Christmas Tree that obviously can't fit onto buses or most taxis; likewise for 5 or more to travel. Also, your own state of sobriety may put off some drivers; beer goggles are mighty weapons at times.
On the getting into the car, the "contract" starts when the driver accepts you as a passenger; sitting in is not acceptance of carriage.
2) A driver is supposed to take you the route of your choosing, if you choose to do so. Do be sensible if there is a gang of you and let him do the route selection; girls are especially bad for picking aresway routes. I got three girls last Xmas who wanted Tallaght to Carpenterstown and back to Tallaght; I politely won that arguement
If you don't know where you are in a journey, a simple "what area are we in now" should suffice.
3) If you can't print a receipt, you can't legally work. I have 9 spare rolls on hand so ask me if you need one
Legally you are entitled to a receipt though in practice ask if you require one. If you want to fix a price, you as a passenger legally have to sign a waiver to not record a fare on the meter. Daft I know but I don't make the rules:rolleyes:
4) If you feel sick, don't travel until you feel better. If you feel sick mid trip, say so ASAP and get out of the car. Soiling charge is €140 plus the fare; the driver then can't work until the car is valeted and dried.
5) A roof sign with a company should mean a driver is affiliated to a base though bear in mind that the plate may have changed hands at some stage in the past.
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Well said, thanks for your input!Hamndegger wrote: »I am a taxi driver and let me assure you that I do it all the time. I have also gotten out of taxis that don't know the road that I live on; it's not a back street so there isn't much excuse for not knowing it.
To clarify some of OP's points;
1) A driver normally cannot refuse a journey in excess of 30KM but it can be refused with good reason. While it's not legally defined what is a good reason, I'd include heading to pick up somebody else, heading home or finishing up or refuel would probably come in as due reason. The load one can carry is also fair due to refuse; yesterday I picked up two gentlemen with a Christmas Tree that obviously can't fit onto buses or most taxis; likewise for 5 or more to travel. Also, your own state of sobriety may put off some drivers; beer goggles are mighty weapons at times.
On the getting into the car, the "contract" starts when the driver accepts you as a passenger; sitting in is not acceptance of carriage.
2) A driver is supposed to take you the route of your choosing, if you choose to do so. Do be sensible if there is a gang of you and let him do the route selection; girls are especially bad for picking aresway routes. I got three girls last Xmas who wanted Tallaght to Carpenterstown and back to Tallaght; I politely won that arguement If you don't know where you are in a journey, a simple "what area are we in now" should suffice.
3) If you can't print a receipt, you can't legally work. I have 9 spare rolls on hand so ask me if you need one Legally you are entitled to a receipt though in practice ask if you require one. If you want to fix a price, you as a passenger legally have to sign a waiver to not record a fare on the meter. Daft I know but I don't make the rules:rolleyes:
4) If you feel sick, don't travel until you feel better. If you feel sick mid trip, say so ASAP and get out of the car. Soiling charge is €140 plus the fare; the driver then can't work until the car is valeted and dried.
5) A roof sign with a company should mean a driver is affiliated to a base though bear in mind that the plate may have changed hands at some stage in the past.
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5)You dont have to take the first car in the rank.If the car looks grotty or the driver looks,scruffy.walk to the next car.its your right by law.
Do this quite often myself, I often get taxi's from Eden quay home, and will either get a decent looking taxi from the queue, or hail one down.
I bypassed the first taxi once, to get into the 3rd in line - and the driver wouldn't take me, tough - I just hailed one going by instead.
There's a lot to be said for those who keep their car clean, and chat to a minimum - not that I don't mind talking to the driver, but it tends to be the same story over again
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Well said,pity more people wouldnt follow your lead.i wash my taxi every morning, and sometimes twice a day.Have oust spray to keep it fresh,plus the usual magic trees. A recent survey done, said "The most popular taxi drivers are the ones that only speak when spoken too"Do this quite often myself, I often get taxi's from Eden quay home, and will either get a decent looking taxi from the queue, or hail one down.
I bypassed the first taxi once, to get into the 3rd in line - and the driver wouldn't take me, tough - I just hailed one going by instead.
There's a lot to be said for those who keep their car clean, and chat to a minimum - not that I don't mind talking to the driver, but it tends to be the same story over again0 -
Good thread.
Just to add some more advice to intending passengers in my taxi.
Do not attempt to get into the taxi with kebabs, pizzas, burgers, curry chips, etc., dripping all over the place and all over yourself. I wont be stopping to pick you up. Other passengers need to use my vehicle after you and I dont have time during busy periods especially on a weekend night to be bringing the car back home to hoover and clean up your mess.
By all means I will stop at the chipper or chinese if you need food but it stays in the bag until you get out at your destination.
Neither should you attempt to get into the taxi with opened bottles of drink or try to get into the taxi (as one guy tried to do one night to me) with a full pint of Guinness and demand that I take him to the disco five minutes down the road. "I wont spill it" he says. Yeah right.
Ok so some of you dont like a driver that talks too much. Well in my case I dont have a problem if you want to talk or not thats up to yourself. I wont inflict my life history on you.
Do not start opening all the car windows and roaring and shouting at the rest of the people in the street.
Do not throw stuff out of the windows.
For those who like to or have to sit in the front seat. The equipment and the car are my personal property. So please do not attempt to turn off the meter - its there for a reason. Do not start turning up the volume on the radio. I'm not a mobile disco.
And to all male passengers (I'm a female driver). Please keep your hands to yourself. My left leg and knee is for clutchin. Not for you to feel. I have probably just washed and combed my hair. I'd like it to stay that way. Sit properly in the seat. I dont want you leaning over towards me with the stench of drink etc., Remember I'm trying to drive a vehicle and get you home safely and myself back to town for another fare hopefully.
And above all please make sure you have enough money for the fare home. In case you are not aware of whats goin on in the world, we are in the middle of a credit crunch. My bank wont give me credit and you aint gettin any either
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Brilliant!Top girl taxi driver,,Good thread.
Just to add some more advice to intending passengers in my taxi.
Do not attempt to get into the taxi with kebabs, pizzas, burgers, curry chips, etc., dripping all over the place and all over yourself. I wont be stopping to pick you up. Other passengers need to use my vehicle after you and I dont have time during busy periods especially on a weekend night to be bringing the car back home to hoover and clean up your mess.
By all means I will stop at the chipper or chinese if you need food but it stays in the bag until you get out at your destination.
Neither should you attempt to get into the taxi with opened bottles of drink or try to get into the taxi (as one guy tried to do one night to me) with a full pint of Guinness and demand that I take him to the disco five minutes down the road. "I wont spill it" he says. Yeah right.
Ok so some of you dont like a driver that talks too much. Well in my case I dont have a problem if you want to talk or not thats up to yourself. I wont inflict my life history on you.
Do not start opening all the car windows and roaring and shouting at the rest of the people in the street.
Do not throw stuff out of the windows.
For those who like to or have to sit in the front seat. The equipment and the car are my personal property. So please do not attempt to turn off the meter - its there for a reason. Do not start turning up the volume on the radio. I'm not a mobile disco.
And to all male passengers (I'm a female driver). Please keep your hands to yourself. My left leg and knee is for clutchin. Not for you to feel. I have probably just washed and combed my hair. I'd like it to stay that way. Sit properly in the seat. I dont want you leaning over towards me with the stench of drink etc., Remember I'm trying to drive a vehicle and get you home safely and myself back to town for another fare hopefully.
And above all please make sure you have enough money for the fare home. In case you are not aware of whats goin on in the world, we are in the middle of a credit crunch. My bank wont give me credit and you aint gettin any either
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Good thread.
Just to add some more advice to intending passengers in my taxi.
Do not attempt to get into the taxi with kebabs, pizzas, burgers, curry chips, etc., dripping all over the place and all over yourself. I wont be stopping to pick you up. Other passengers need to use my vehicle after you and I dont have time during busy periods especially on a weekend night to be bringing the car back home to hoover and clean up your mess.
By all means I will stop at the chipper or chinese if you need food but it stays in the bag until you get out at your destination.
Neither should you attempt to get into the taxi with opened bottles of drink or try to get into the taxi (as one guy tried to do one night to me) with a full pint of Guinness and demand that I take him to the disco five minutes down the road. "I wont spill it" he says. Yeah right.
Ok so some of you dont like a driver that talks too much. Well in my case I dont have a problem if you want to talk or not thats up to yourself. I wont inflict my life history on you.
Do not start opening all the car windows and roaring and shouting at the rest of the people in the street.
Do not throw stuff out of the windows.
For those who like to or have to sit in the front seat. The equipment and the car are my personal property. So please do not attempt to turn off the meter - its there for a reason. Do not start turning up the volume on the radio. I'm not a mobile disco.
And to all male passengers (I'm a female driver). Please keep your hands to yourself. My left leg and knee is for clutchin. Not for you to feel. I have probably just washed and combed my hair. I'd like it to stay that way. Sit properly in the seat. I dont want you leaning over towards me with the stench of drink etc., Remember I'm trying to drive a vehicle and get you home safely and myself back to town for another fare hopefully.
And above all please make sure you have enough money for the fare home. In case you are not aware of whats goin on in the world, we are in the middle of a credit crunch. My bank wont give me credit and you aint gettin any either
Happy Christmas:)
I presume you mean not to do ALL of this over the course of ONE trip ...... but over two or three would be fine ?0 -
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Terrontress wrote: »Well that's fair enough if you warned them in advance but I reckon that if you ask for a printed receipt and can't be given one then you are fine to refuse to pay the fare. The taxi regulator's website says it's one of your principal rights to get one. If the driver can't meet that obligation then he shouldn't be out driving.
Nice try but no, you have to pay the fare at the end of the job regardless of any due reason to complain about. 0 -
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Hamndegger wrote: »Nice try but no, you have to pay the fare at the end of the job regardless of any due reason to complain about.
Working in the bank, I need a receipt to claim back expenses. If I were to get to the end of a journey and get told that the driver had "run out" of receipts, he'd discover that I had "run out" of money. It says on the website that a customer has the right to a printed receipt in a taxi or a handwritten one in a hack or limo. It's also in the same document that the customer has to pay the fare as calculated on the meter. If the driver doesn't keep his side of the bargain, why should keep mine? I'd say that if more people knew their rights and responsibilities that there would be fewer drivers messing about.0 -
Terrontress wrote: »Working in the bank, I need a receipt to claim back expenses. If I were to get to the end of a journey and get told that the driver had "run out" of receipts, he'd discover that I had "run out" of money. It says on the website that a customer has the right to a printed receipt in a taxi or a handwritten one in a hack or limo. It's also in the same document that the customer has to pay the fare as calculated on the meter. If the driver doesn't keep his side of the bargain, why should keep mine? I'd say that if more people knew their rights and responsibilities that there would be fewer drivers messing about.
It isn't a case of any side of the bargain being kept or not being kept; it is law that you have to pay for the journey. The legal right to issuing a receipt is punishable by a fine from the Taxi Regulator and not by you withholding payment as a passenger.
If you tried that trick on me, the other thing I'd run out of is patience 0 -
Hamndegger wrote: »It isn't a case of any side of the bargain being kept or not being kept; it is law that you have to pay for the journey. The legal right to issuing a receipt is punishable by a fine from the Taxi Regulator and not by you withholding payment as a passenger.
If you tried that trick on me, the other thing I'd run out of is patience
So which of the so-called "customer rights" do you think you can dispense with at will?
http://www.taxiregulator.ie/consumer/consumer-rights-and-responsibilities/consumer-rights-and-responsibilities.html
Obviously you expect a customer to meet all the responsibilities as laid down?0 -
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I presume you mean not to do ALL of this over the course of ONE trip ...... but over two or three would be fine ?
Ha ha. None of it at all on any trip.
Now in fairness it does not happen that often but when it does happen I seem to get two or three of these types all in one night. And then I get cheesed off with this ****e and just want to go home. However in these days of credit crunches etc., you need to make hay when the sun shines and get out there and earn a living.
Some of the people that I meet would not even remember getting home in a taxi never mind what they did or said to the driver.
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Ticktactoe wrote: »Has this ever happened???
Believe me it has happened. On a few occasions and believe it its the oul fellas that are the worst for the feel of the leg. Must be after the few whiskeys that they get a bit frisky
The hair feeling has happened too plus I had a guy one night who would not sit back properly in the back seat but kept grabbing me around my neck and front. Not great when you are trying to drive a car around especially on country roads with grass growin up the middle of them.:D
And again 'credit' is a big problem. 'I'll pay you tomorrow" You will all right. They probably wont even remember getting home tomorrow so they are hardly going to remember oh I owe a taxi driver a fare. My argument to this rubbish about looking for credit is that they have gone out for a night and have not even thought about getting home but have spent all their money on drink. Plenty of money for drink but expect a free shuttle service from the pub home. :rolleyes:0 -
Terrontress wrote: »So which of the so-called "customer rights" do you think you can dispense with at will?
http://www.taxiregulator.ie/consumer/consumer-rights-and-responsibilities/consumer-rights-and-responsibilities.html
Obviously you expect a customer to meet all the responsibilities as laid down?
None of them actually, what about you? By the sound of you, you are probably inventing a few other fake ones as suits you, depending on your circumstances or crankiness:rolleyes: 0 -
Hamndegger wrote: »None of them actually, what about you? By the sound of you, you are probably inventing a few other fake ones as suits you, depending on your circumstances or crankiness:rolleyes:
Well, I'm the first to admit I'm a crank but fair's fair. Or is that fare? A service provider should not be paid if he neglects to mention until the service is provided that he can only offer an incomplete service. If I were to be claiming a taxi journey from work, which happens about twice a month, and before we set off the driver said he couldn't provide a printed receipt, I'd thank him and take the next car with a working receipt printer. If a driver waits to tell me this once we've arrived and there is €20 on the meter, I'm not going to go to the inconvenience of having to explain myself to my boss just because he can't do his job properly. I'd give him my phone number and tell him to come and find me once he can print one off and I'll give him the cash then. I bet he wouldn't be so slapdash with receipt rolls after that!0 -
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