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UK Petrol cheaper than ROI now!

  • 20-12-2008 5:32pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭


    Fuel Price War Boost For Drivers

    We once took solace when grumbling about Fuel prices that the UK was more expensive than us. However now with the collapse of the Pound sterling and the builders tax of 8c/litre on us here see the UK actually cheaper than the ROI for fuel.

    I can't believe Irish people took the 8c Duty rise so easy, when the UK government even talks of rising Duty, civil war looms, While it is great that Oil has fallen and Petrol also. However Fuel prices are now down over 75% since the peak of $147/barrel in July. Yet our prices are down only by around 33%, the Government are in crapper I admit but taxing motorists isn't the answer, there was no offer to cut taxes when Diesel and Petrol were hovering around €1.50/litre which drove many good hard working transport businesses to the wall and their inaction cost jobs and quickened the grip of the recession.

    People will cry oh they pay more taxes in Ireland and isn't Fianna Fail great, Fianna fail are a national disgrace and Ireland now has amongst the highest transportation taxes in the World and then they cut Public transport & jack up prices to add insult to injury offering no alternative to the car, yet the "greens" fiddle while Rome burns.

    We are getting ripped off in Ireland and between ridiculous Insurance costs, arse bursting Motor Tax and VRT, TRoad tolls, Fuel Duty and VAT on fuel we are being leveraged to the last. The ordinary punter is getting the brunt of this recession and while I am no socialist I am a firm beleiver of consumer rights and without consumers there will be no wealth generated or no jobs. If this government are allowed to stay in office 50% of people will be out of work before 2010, almost two million will be out of work and everyone getting ripped of in regressive taxes.

    We are the bearing these taxes so that Fianna Fail can bail out their builder and developer buddies and have no problem throwing €10 billion to the banks so that it can be creamed off and prob up the Fianna Fail elite who are corrupt. Yet nothing is done about the swindling that was done with loans in Anglo Irish which will collapse at trade open on Monday and us tax payers will pay for it all.

    The danger now is that if Oil goes lower they will increase taxes more as they reckon people are cushy at around €1/litre while it can be got in the states for around 30c/litre.




    Sums it all up really, I urge Irish people to hold tough as their is light at the end of the tunnel and Fianna Fail will be annihilated and it is a case now that if the people don't talk up we will get royally screwed.

    One disgruntled motorist and capitalist.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,401 ✭✭✭DublinDilbert


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    I can't believe Irish people took the 8c Duty rise so easy, when the UK government even talks of rising Duty, civil war looms, While it is great that Oil has fallen and Petrol also.

    The reason they got away with the 8c / litre increase, as they timed it just right... as prices were decreasing they added on the 8c / L, so at worst it caused a blip in the falling prices..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    The pound has collapsed. This is a fact that effects all prices when comparing. It's pretty irrelevant in thye scheme of people whinging about price comparisons with the uk. We cant just take massive amounts off the price of our petrol because another coutries currency goes through the floor.

    What if it had gone the oppoisite way and the euro had dropped through the floor, resulting in us paying half what they do in the uk? Would people be giving out? This is a currency issue, not a petrol price one. We are not getting ripped off just because our price is the same or a bit dearer as a result of currency fluctuations.


    That video is just a list of all the "man down the pub" whinging that goes on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭jayok


    Re the post - Thanks for the video!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Great vid there, lol @2:39. It's sad though as it sums up the state of this country and the potential it had before fianna faíl (and those green cnuts) got their greedy mits on it. That vid was made FOUR years ago whats changed? :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    mumhaabu wrote: »
    Fuel Price War Boost For Drivers

    We once took solace when grumbling about Fuel prices that the UK was more expensive than us. However now with the collapse of the Pound sterling and the builders tax of 8c/litre on us here see the UK actually cheaper than the ROI for fuel.

    I can't believe Irish people took the 8c Duty rise so easy, when the UK government even talks of rising Duty, civil war looms, While it is great that Oil has fallen and Petrol also. However Fuel prices are now down over 75% since the peak of $147/barrel in July. Yet our prices are down only by around 33%, the Government are in crapper I admit but taxing motorists isn't the answer, there was no offer to cut taxes when Diesel and Petrol were hovering around €1.50/litre which drove many good hard working transport businesses to the wall and their inaction cost jobs and quickened the grip of the recession.

    People will cry oh they pay more taxes in Ireland and isn't Fianna Fail great, Fianna fail are a national disgrace and Ireland now has amongst the highest transportation taxes in the World and then they cut Public transport & jack up prices to add insult to injury offering no alternative to the car, yet the "greens" fiddle while Rome burns.

    We are getting ripped off in Ireland and between ridiculous Insurance costs, arse bursting Motor Tax and VRT, TRoad tolls, Fuel Duty and VAT on fuel we are being leveraged to the last. The ordinary punter is getting the brunt of this recession and while I am no socialist I am a firm beleiver of consumer rights and without consumers there will be no wealth generated or no jobs. If this government are allowed to stay in office 50% of people will be out of work before 2010, almost two million will be out of work and everyone getting ripped of in regressive taxes.

    We are the bearing these taxes so that Fianna Fail can bail out their builder and developer buddies and have no problem throwing €10 billion to the banks so that it can be creamed off and prob up the Fianna Fail elite who are corrupt. Yet nothing is done about the swindling that was done with loans in Anglo Irish which will collapse at trade open on Monday and us tax payers will pay for it all.

    The danger now is that if Oil goes lower they will increase taxes more as they reckon people are cushy at around €1/litre while it can be got in the states for around 30c/litre.




    Sums it all up really, I urge Irish people to hold tough as their is light at the end of the tunnel and Fianna Fail will be annihilated and it is a case now that if the people don't talk up we will get royally screwed.

    One disgruntled motorist and capitalist.


    OMG ROFL, this video jusr does not need any comments :D. Thx m8, i needed that :).

    This country became one huge TAX. Taxeland...

    In lithuania we pay ( atleast when i was still living there) our road tax in petrol price. So its a bit more dare, but even with that its still cheaper in there then in ireland :(. But no matter what i am still glad that its atleast gone down to 1eu per litter. For taxopolis its not that bad...

    But that is fair in mine opinion, if you drive big engine car and driving alot, you put more petroll in your car, and pay more tax etc...


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I was up with the outlaws in Belfast for the last few days. Filled the car up in Tesco near Forestside for UK£0.829 which according to xe.com works out at €0.859 - woo hoo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Filled up at 85.9p in Fiveways in Newry; must be the first time in years they're getting Irish drivers through there!

    82.9 in Tesco Ballymena.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The gap is less then the 8 cents lumped on at the last budget. Cheapest petrol in Waterford is 90c.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Seemingly a number of petrol retailers along the Southern side of the border are on the verge of closure.
    Its unfortunate until I think of my relatives in Raphoe who will be suffering! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,184 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Diesel's still significantly cheaper down here, so not sure why they'd be in such a perilous state yet?

    I still had to queue in Topaz in Ballymascanlon on NYE!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭Tipsy Mac


    Stekelly wrote: »
    The pound has collapsed. This is a fact that effects all prices when comparing. It's pretty irrelevant in thye scheme of people whinging about price comparisons with the uk. We cant just take massive amounts off the price of our petrol because another coutries currency goes through the floor.

    What if it had gone the oppoisite way and the euro had dropped through the floor, resulting in us paying half what they do in the uk? Would people be giving out? This is a currency issue, not a petrol price one. We are not getting ripped off just because our price is the same or a bit dearer as a result of currency fluctuations.

    That video is just a list of all the "man down the pub" whinging that goes on.

    Oil is purchased on the international market in US dollars, the pound has dived against this so fuel should be getting more expensive in £ instead of getting cheaper than it is here, this is where the problem is.
    kbannon wrote: »
    Seemingly a number of petrol retailers along the Southern side of the border are on the verge of closure.
    Its unfortunate until I think of my relatives in Raphoe who will be suffering! :D

    Yes the increase in the budget was crazy, fuel was the one thing people from the North headed down here to buy, I'd say the increase will eliminate that business coming into the country completely and possible result in no actual excise take increase.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,239 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    MYOB wrote: »
    Diesel's still significantly cheaper down here, so not sure why they'd be in such a perilous state yet?

    I still had to queue in Topaz in Ballymascanlon on NYE!
    No idea why. I heard it from a number of different people within one of the major suppliers.


  • Posts: 3,620 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Britain have to import oil just like us. So it will go back the way it was.


    The oil they have bought while their currency was stronger has been turned into petrol and now that sterling is sinking we can get a great deal because the strength of the €. This is in addition to the weakness in the price of oil.

    In a few months time when they sell all their cheaper inventory it will become more expensive than us again.


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