Here come the girls

OzCam

National Airsoft Girls

Founded in 2008, NAG aims to bring together women & girls in the sport by creating a networked organisation of female teams and individuals. Most of all, it's about having fun!

"We aim to keep our training up both mentally and physically, discuss tactics and advice.
Comradeship and the honour of representing a team is a nice feeling.
Knowing that at end of the day, if you do need help or you want someone you can ask for intel from, there will be somewhere you can go.
We are looking for females who would like to be taught to a high standard in a non patronising environment and who are willing to partake in events in a "who dares wins" mindset.
We're not out to prove a point or for us being there as novelty items, but to be well respected players.
The training that is planned will be a certain challenge and having like minded individuals to keep morale, stamina and focus up when it gets hard will prove to be a bonus for all.
We Play and Train alongside Shadowopz Airsoft, Sturry, Canterbury."

[OzCam adds: The girl behind NAG is of Donegal origin, and they would love to recruit Irish players, set up a branch and/or field a team. They already have plans for the USA.]

Why girls should do airsoft

Fyr.Fytr

Love thier motto

You claim 8" we only need 6mm

Witcher

Fyr.Fytr wrote: »

Love thier motto

Ah I love the smell of innuendo in the morning:pac:

Fyr.Fytr

Blay wrote: »

Ah I love the smell of innuendo in the morning:pac:

No in your endo!

extremetaz

Fyr.Fytr wrote: »

No in your endo!

Intertron-five!

- oh yeah!

:P

Masada

We actually have an all girls team of our own here in ireland., Their located in Dundalk.,

OzCam

vtec wrote: »

We actually have an all girls team of our own here in ireland., Their located in Dundalk.,

Excellent. I'm sure the NAG would love to hear from them.

Lacertus

how i join

Creamy Goodness

i love their abbreviated name hehehe, i hope it was a sense of humour move and not a blonde one :pac:

OzCam

Creamy Goodness wrote: »

i love their abbreviated name hehehe, i hope it was a sense of humour move and not a blonde one :pac:

If you visit the site, I think you'll see that their sense of humour is quite well developed. I'm sure they need it from time to time.

I had a friend who graduated medical school top of her class, and in record time. Ran 10 to 20k and did 200 sit-ups every day. Total over-achiever, and utterly gorgeous. Don't slag the blondes.

DisasterIRL

OzCam wrote: »

If you visit the site, I think you'll see that their sense of humour is quite well developed. I'm sure they need it from time to time.

I had a friend who graduated medical school top of her class, and in record time. Ran 10 to 20k and did 200 sit-ups every day. Total over-achiever, and utterly gorgeous. Don't slag the blondes.

And how may I contact this "friend"

Or the girl on the homepage for that fact.

I should be bringing a few girls up for the Dark Mist II

OzCam

National Airsoft Girls (UK) were featured in the last edition of Airsoft International magazine.*

I have a scan of the article which I can email to anyone if they're interested or can't find a copy in their local newsagent.


*vol 4, no 8, p 70.

DisasterIRL

Saw that myself, a good spread and looking good girls

senordingdong

OzCam wrote: »

National Airsoft Girls (UK) were featured in the last edition of Airsoft International magazine.

I have a scan of the article which I can PM to anyone if they're interested or can't find a copy.

Haha, on that note, I see the old scantly clad girls in advertisements has finally made its way to the Airsoft mags...unfortunatly AI haven't heard of air-brushing yet.

zero19

Hmm didn't airsplat or some US crowd have an ad in AI with three half naked chicks with AK's months ago?

senordingdong

There have been a few different such ads in the past few issues.

dara95

cn i join??

will we be playing naked????;)

Lacertus

dara95 wrote: »

cn i join??

will we be playing naked????;)

:eek:

zero19

dara95 wrote: »

cn i join??

will we be playing naked????;)

Ugh that'd be mad painful

gandalf

dara95 wrote: »

cn i join??

will we be playing naked????;)

How about we don't stray down this avenue again everyone.

dara infracted for that gem.

OzCam

Thank you, Gentlemen.

This has in fact been brought to the attention of the editor. Several times.

I am reliably informed that the photographer responsible for one of those ads was hit in the hand at short range recently, purely by accident of course What goes around, comes around.

It's quite possible to be both sexy and respectful at the same time. It just requires you to engage your brain.

Anyway, let's try to keep this topic informational. The more people we have playing airsoft, the better in the long run.

DisasterIRL

OzCam wrote: »

It's quite possible to be both sexy and respectful at the same time. It just requires you to engage your brain.

Sounds good

But really would love to play against the team, it would be even better if they kicked ass, just to shrink some ego's

TheDoc

OzCam wrote: »

Anyway, let's try to keep this topic informational. The more people we have playing airsoft, the better in the long run.

Oz trying to get into an untapped resource :P

There interesting reads alright.

Spetzcong

Was going to avoid this topic, I've seen the likes of it before on here and it usually ends up in a bunch of blokes engaging in internet lechery which only serves to put girls off giving the sport a go (ironically it's usually the same people who probably wouldn't even make eye contact with a girl at a skirmish let alone sleaze on to her, ah the internet eh?)

The more girls playing the sport the better in my opinion. In my experience, girls are every bit as talented at airsoft as blokes, more so in many cases. More power to them.

I do have a question for any regular female airsofters though. The attraction of airsoft for a bloke is obvious, I mean what boy didn't run around playing soldiers when he was a kid? What is it about airsoft that attracts female players, and is there anything male airsofters could do to try and attract more girls and try and balance out the sausage fest factor?

Masada

well said man., if any girl wants to get involved in the sport, they can follow the same procedure all the lads do, since,ya know, they are equal to us and all.,

i remember the thread that kicked off similar to this one last year and as ya said, it wasn't the way to go.,

OzCam

Thank you Spetzcong, a very useful post, and a constructive debate at last.

Spetzcong wrote: »

Was going to avoid this topic, I've seen the likes of it before on here and it usually ends up in a bunch of blokes engaging in internet lechery which only serves to put girls off giving the sport a go

Not this time. I'll ask the mods to lock the thread if necessary.

Spetzcong wrote: »

I do have a question for any regular female airsofters though. The attraction of airsoft for a bloke is obvious, I mean what boy didn't run around playing soldiers when he was a kid? What is it about airsoft that attracts female players, and is there anything male airsofters could do to try and attract more girls and try and balance out the sausage fest factor?

I hope the girls pipe up themselves with comments on this, but in the meantime here's my 2c worth.

Lots of girls, and not just the tomboy types, like to play what we used to call cowboys and indians. So for some of them, it's just a grownup version. Some girls like to get in touch with the other side of their personalities and put the nail polish and lip gloss away for a while. It's fun, it's fitness and it's social.

We know that most women like to do things cooperatively (sometimes even when an individualistic way would get better results). One thing that we men don't usually notice is that women are also very competitive - they're just very, very subtle about it.

Germaine Greer, that argument-causer par excellence, says a lot of stuff that I don't always agree with, but there was one quote of hers I found very useful: "A pedestal is as much a prison as any other small space". IMO, women don't want us to be boorish, and definitely don't want us to be cissies, they do want to be treated as equals.

I think the best thing we can do is to behave like men, not boys.

TheDoc

I know my girlfriend is edgin to get out, there was war the last time I cancelled on her haha.

I'll be brining her out at some stage and i have the feeling she will like it and make it a regular thing

Gizmodeon

that picture of that girl looks familiar
did dex have anything to do with this? :rolleyes:

Masada

Gizmodeon wrote: »

that picture of that girl looks familiar
did dex have anything to do with this? :rolleyes:

bwhahaa., i showed him this a while back and instantly he noticed,

NakedDex wrote:

Look what they photoshopped onto her head!

apparently it should have "cpl Holm" on the helmet instead of born to kill.,

rofl,.:D

senordingdong

So I read the article about them in AI and I have to say, it was completely redundant, even for an AI article.

What difference does it make if boys or girls are playing?
Why does gender need to be high lighted?

In my opinion, articles like that featured in AI, and the website linked here, only serve to perpetuate the BS that this thread is trying to tackle.

OzCam

senordingdong wrote: »

...it was completely redundant, even for an AI article.

That takes some doing.

senordingdong wrote: »

What difference does it make if boys or girls are playing?
Why does gender need to be high lighted?

It shouldn't make any difference, apart from the fact that most sites need better toilet facilities

I think the only valid reason for highlighting it at all is to encourage more people to take up the sport. Whether that's actually effective or not is a whole different question. I guess we'll see.

Lacertus

senordingdong wrote: »

So I read the article about them in AI and I have to say, it was completely redundant, even for an AI article.

What difference does it make if boys or girls are playing?
Why does gender need to be high lighted?

In my opinion, articles like that featured in AI, and the website linked here, only service to perpetuate the BS that this thread is trying to tackle.

to be honest i kinda agree with this chap, just i did not want to dive into something that may lead to a fending someone.

but really no one ever said girls could not do airsoft nore did anyone ever think differnt about having girls play airsoft if a girl wants to play airsoft so be it, nothing stands in the way.
guys are more likely to play airsoft because it would tend to attract guys more but theres no reason why girls cant play nore be attracted its just not as commen.

promoting girls to take part in airsoft ye ok i agree but theres nothing to be changed, fixed edited, for airsoft its there for everyone to takepart.

also dont shoot me for this its just me saying it in a funny way. but better toileting needs wud ye come on u be lucky if u get a site that had a jacks never mind a jacks big enough for a big ass chair, but cleaner toilets with warm towels and pink soap ant needed.

madmaxi

I'm afraid there is no mystery with regards to females playing airsoft, we're just out to have fun and get get rid of stress, great for anger management, exercise and a great way to meet real men.;)

Airsoft culture used to be exclusively male, it was this big hunting pack where all the cave men got to beat their chest and got to talk about how many mastodon they had killed. It's really different now being an female airsofter in the 21st century we have our own clubs and rituals, we have our own brand of machisma. Now we play on the same field as the rest of the boy's but by our own rules.

Which, by the way, are even nastier.

Tip: The only way to attract more females is for the current airsofters to bring out their female friends/girlfriends and not to hoze them on their first outing.

Hivemind187

madmaxi wrote: »

a great way to meet real men.;)

... this is the airsoft forum right?

Gatling

its a game ,

for everybody everytime there mention of women in airsoft there's uproar,

i dont see players as either men or women ,

but as SKIRMISHERS with a common love for the sport,

all the site's need toliets with the exception of 1 or 2 ,

ps hands up who hasnt met a gossip or a biiatch :eek:
while at a site and i dnt mean any woman

madmaxi

Hivemind187 wrote: »

... this is the airsoft forum right?

................ of course

Masada

Gatling wrote: »

i dont see players as either men or women ,

but as SKIRMISHERS with a common love for the sport,

Arn't you the one who got shouted down for trying to set up an EXCLUSIVELY Female team last year?

What would a MAN's motive be for wanting an exclusively all girls team if one classed everyone as equal and claimed to be non gender biased?

Gatling

RFLOL that reminds me of just how bitchy thing are in this sport ,everyone's got pms

zero19

My thread lock senses are tingling...

Spetzcong

Gatling wrote: »

ps hands up who hasnt met a gossip or a biiatch :eek:
while at a site and i dnt mean any woman

since when is gossiping an exclusively female pursuit?

Gossiping is an essential part of human social interaction, it's been likened to the way chimps groom each other. You will not find any social group anywhere in the world where gossiping doesn't take place.

I don't really care who I'm playing with or against at a site, be they girls, small children, old fogies, any race, creed or colour. The most important thing to me is that everyone enjoys themselves and plays with honour.

gerrowadat

Spetzcong wrote: »

since when is gossiping an exclusively female pursuit?

Gossiping is an essential part of human social interaction, it's been likened to the way chimps groom each other. You will not find any social group anywhere in the world where gossiping doesn't take place.

I don't really care who I'm playing with or against at a site, be they girls, small children, old fogies, any race, creed or colour. The most important thing to me is that everyone enjoys themselves and plays with honour.

And doesn't use a box mag or an AUG.

Lacertus

Spetzcong wrote: »

I don't really care who I'm playing with or against at a site, be they girls, small children, old fogies, any race, creed or colour. The most important thing to me is that everyone enjoys themselves and plays with honour.

huurraahh

gerrowadat wrote: »

And doesn't use a box mag or an AUG.

eh i use 2 drum mags so what ye tryna say

TheDoc

Lacertus wrote: »

eh i use 2 drum mags so what ye tryna say

That I can go get a supermacs, go back to my position, eat it, enjoy an after meal smoke before you run out of ammo and I get a chance to shoot :P

OzCam

Thanks Maxi.

I'd really like to hear from Gizmo or Jill, but unless anyone else has something useful to contribute I think this thread has nearly run its course.


Um, by the way, getting more girls into airsoft gives us another lever with the FIS, so there is actually a PR payoff to it, even though we're all aspiring to be non-sexist and postfeminist. Getting women and girls into sport has a lot of angles to it, and different approaches are needed in different circumstances.

senordingdong

OzCam wrote: »

Um, by the way, getting more girls into airsoft gives us another lever with the FIS, so there is actually a PR payoff to it, even though we're all aspiring to be non-sexist and postfeminist. Getting women and girls into sport has a lot of angles to it, and different approaches are needed in different circumstances.

Cool!

A legit reason to support women in airsoft.

Sam Fisher

How about a WAGs Day in any one of the centres? My girlfriend wants to attend a while back, but she's relutant, afraid that she may be the only female there on the day unless she's certain that there'll be others. I guess it's safety in numbers.

Spetzcong

Sam Fisher wrote: »

How about a WAGs Day in any one of the centres? My girlfriend wants to attend a while back, but she's relutant, afraid that she may be the only female there on the day unless she's certain that there'll be others. I guess it's safety in numbers.

sort of like "ladies night" only during the day and with guns, I like it

TheDoc

Have to admit the family day out in HRTA is pretty much what got my girlfriend syked about going. She isn't really interested in the sterotypical girl group of lets have a chat about ****e, but she felt more comfortable going on a really relaxed day where everyone was casual gaming.

Next one of those type of days that pops up I'll bring her. Although she mentioned warehouse to which i foolishly replied " well its a bit intense in there you might find it too sore"


Needless to say I got a swift dig to the ribs " sore like that? "

Definetly a future airsofter...

DisasterIRL

Seriously, this wouldn't be a bad idea, a few of my female friends but they have expressed the same old excuses, I'll be the only girl there. Could be quite successful.

Rhinocharge

There are loads of female airsofters, most aren't members of boards.ie.

OzCam

Sam Fisher wrote: »

My girlfriend wants to attend a while back, but she's reluctant, afraid that she may be the only female there on the day unless she's certain that there'll be others.

It's the old chicken-and-egg situation... Some girls are reluctant to take up a sport - any sport, not just airsoft - until they see others doing it, and are reassured that they won't be slagged to bits. In an ideal world (or maybe in Sweden) sites like the NAG and all-girl teams wouldn't be necessary, but in practice unfortunately they are.

A WAGs day might sound a bit patronising, even though it's not meant to be, so I rather think another Open or Family day is the way to go. It's all a matter of getting the girls started, once they try it we all know they'll love it. Come to think of it, a Ladies' Day might not be such a bad idea. I was at one in Melbourne (day after the Melbourne Cup) a couple of years ago and it was mindboggling.