Card Mechanics - Are they rare?

alanbb

My first post in this forum, just wanna throw this question out.

I was a spectator at a tournament last week. It was a regular event, ran by a local pub. (I will NOT name names here, so don't even ask!:))
While watching one particular table I noticed some particular goings-on form one guy when he dealt the cards.

I'm just wondering, have any of you guys ever come across one of these legendary card mechanics we have seen on TV and in the movies?
Or am I just being paranoid?

Rigmincedeal

Ah they have to be rare! And i doubt ur gona see some amazing stuff in ur local pub of all places! Wer u drunk? :cool: Interesting if any1 else has come across antin like it before though

alanbb

Rigmincedeal wrote: »

Ah they have to be rare! And i doubt ur gona see some amazing stuff in ur local pub of all places!

Are you kidding me?! I would have thought that would be the ideal place for them... amateur night. People would be more off guard I would think.

carfax

They are very rare in casinos as staff are professionally trained (so would spot them easily enough) and self deal tournaments are rare in casinos anyway too.

Plenty of players have been banned over the years for general cheating though.

And I've seen a few dodgy things (*not talking about Nicnicnic in the Wacky Apple*) in self deal pub tournaments out in the countryside before but nothing for serious money.

alanbb

carfax wrote: »

They are very rare in casinos as staff are professionally trained (so would spot them easily enough) and self deal tournaments are rare in casinos anyway too.

Plenty of players have been banned over the years for general cheating though.

And I've seen a few dodgy things (*not talking about Nicnicnic in the Wacky Apple*) in self deal pub tournaments out in the countryside before but nothing for serious money.

That's my point. You will only see these guys in tournaments that allow player-dealing, so it's stand to reason they will target the smaller events.
When I said it was a small tournament, I really should have said SMALL-TIME as there was an entry of around 100 people.

Flushdraw

When i started off playing in Breaks in Drumcondra, one of the lads always volunteered (sp?) to deal. He'd regularly false shuffle and deal from the bottom of the deck. He's quite well known and has been barred from almost all casinos in Dublin for palming chips and other shenanigans

alanbb

Flushdraw wrote: »

When i started off playing in Breaks in Drumcondra, one of the lads always volunteered (sp?) to deal. He'd regularly false shuffle and deal from the bottom of the deck. He's quite well known and has been barred from almost all casinos in Dublin for palming chips and other shenanigans

That's what I think was going on....

He was'nt dealing every hand, but the players would each deal for 5 or 6 hands each. This guys luck would suddenly change when he got the cards in his hands!

Let's just say I know what to look for - mechanics grip, different sound when dealing his own card, fast riffle shuffles followed by a quick false cut etc. etc.

Whyno

Like the way in rounders.....Eh duh
All you have to do is look at the way his hands move when Shuffling etc and whether he offers to cut the cards and what not.
I heard rumours bout a few mechs travellin round with the CPT....Heard they went broke cos evert time they dealt themselves aces they were cracked by Q4offsuit....:D

alanbb

Whyno wrote: »

Like the way in rounders.....Eh duh

Please....

I'm not one of these poker buffs who has seen rounders and thinks he can spot a card cheat!:)

Let us just say I have some practical knowledge of the techniques involved.

Anyway, the way Ed Norton was caught in Rounders was horsesh*t.

Icarus152

Car mechanics? Eh.....try the Yellow Pages mate.

This is about poker.

BIG-SLICK-POKER

carfax wrote: »

And I've seen a few dodgy things (*not talking about Nicnicnic in the Wacky Apple*) QUOTE]


Forgot u were one of the lucky ones in Waterford to experience the madness of this game when it ran .. Roll back the gd times

TommyGunne

Not as rare as you'd think. I've come across at least one when playing live in town, and another one who attempted some dodgy stuff in a pub tourney (he was ridic bad at it though!)

NickyOD

I once played in a self deal Irish open satellite ran in a pub where a guy was caught dealing himself an ace from the base of the deck every time it was his deal.

alanbb

NickyOD wrote: »

I once played in a self deal Irish open satellite ran in a pub where a guy was caught dealing himself an ace from the base of the deck every time it was his deal.

Well that's a sure fire way to get yourself caught!

Fatboydim

Card mechanics are one reason why you will never find me playing a CPT tournament. I'm not accusing CPT here or any players as such - But that is the kind of event that would be perfect for them. Big prize, booze and self deal until last few tables.

sickpuppy

Used playa lot in pubs in Galway when iw as younger and cheating was rampant.
We used elay 5 card daw with red deuces wild so quite often guy would have a deuce hidden as its ajoker card.
One time we were all getting smashed and alad goes to the jacks and a card is seen stuck to his arse he obv slipped it under his seat and forgot a bout it as he was half cut.
There is afamous card player in the south east who is arenowned mechanic so no matter how good your starting hands dont play with this guy.

Conbro

There is afamous card player in the south east who is arenowned mechanic so no matter how good your starting hands dont play with this guy

I was wondering how long it would before he was mentioned:pac:

sickpuppy

No names and the southe ast is abig place.

bantee

Is that the shark from Waterford that was mentioned in the "How much do you make at poker?" thread? I'll have me wits about me if I'm ever playing in that part of the country!

nicnicnic

yeah theres a big bad david coperfield type character in waterford that takes all the moniez :rolleyes:

but i dont think he cheats he just charges all the players a thing called rake and his name is Kelly

Rigmincedeal

Wow didnt realise alot of it went on, wuda just assumed it was v difficult to do so wud be very rare.

DEEP THROAT

In some (dodgy) establishments it is like Wimbledon the way they play...

If you can't get a few Aces on your Serve you'll end up F**ked by the end of the Game