28 Days later - Something that bugs me..

OK, I know this film is out a while now, and this has probably been brought up before (hopefully).


I heard the film was great but never bothered to get round to watching it (not big into the whole horror/etc. kinda films, more a comedy person) but finally gave in when someone gave me a lend of it.


So, its a little far-fetched, but its a good concept. Makes sense.

It's going good. I'm getting into it.

Now, they decide to go to an army blockade on a motorway. Nice idea.

So what annoys me about it?

The fact that the guy, on the way there, just wanders off into dark shops on his own? No, not that.

The fact that they drive through a tunnel on the way? Nope.

They enter a supermarket and there isn't one person, alive or dead, inside? A little odd, but no. Not it either.

Is it that when they get to the army place, the army are there watching them, but they wait until they have to kill the other guy before appearing on the scene? Again, an odd choice, but no. Not that.



What bugs me.. is this..

They go to an army blockade on a motorway. They search around. Their ultimate goal is to get out of England by any means necessary. So even though they are there.. All hope is still lost for them...















Despite a massive helicopter just sitting in the background!








I mean.. surely if you were in that situation, the first thing you'd do is get into it, and away with you. I mean.. Its just sitting there. Sure, the people are all filled with "rage" and killing each other, but i don't know anyone strong enough to pull the blades off a helicopter. And it certainly doesn't look like it crash landed. So that means it arrived as normal and must have some fuel remaining...


And the worst part is... He actually looks inside the helicopter





And after three seconds of looking, slams the door closed and says

"Vehicles! There has to be something in the vehicles!"



Now at some point, when they were making this, they must have realised.

Surely someone on the cast or crew, when they seen a fifteen foot long, two ton piece of machinery soaring through the air and onto the set, must have said "Why wouldn't they just escape in that?"


Even later in the film, the army leader guy says to the main character "Not what you expected, is it? You were expecting lots of soldiers. Food. Helicopters taking people to safety." and the main character doesn't even ask why they aren't using the helicopter that they have.



I know its a little silly to look this much into it, but its an incredibly popular film. Everyone seems to love it, but the parts after that were just ruined for me. Every time something bad happened I kept thinking "you wouldn't be in that situation if you just got into the helicopter!".


They could have at least got one of the characters to say "Oh look, a helicopter. We're saved! Oh, no, never mind. It's broke down. Ah well"



Did the people making the film ever come up with a reason why the characters didn't do the most painstakingly obvious thing?


Did it bug anyone else? Did anyone here even notice it?

Vokes

They were infantry men, weren't they? I just assumed they didnt know how to fly it.

SofaK

SofaK wrote: »

They were infantry men, weren't they? I just assumed they didnt know how to fly it.

I was actually talking about the main characters, not the Army. But even though, i know i can't fly a helicopter, but the minute i see a helicopter i'd be in it and pressing everything and anything i could. Plus, its an army helicopter, there'd have to be a radio (dispatcher thing) in it. Might not work, but you'd give it a shot.

Einstein

Deleted User wrote: »

But even though, i know i can't fly a helicopter, but the minute i see a helicopter i'd be in it and pressing everything and anything i could.

And I'd be standing across the road in case u figured out how to kill us all or by starting the rotor when the good looking girl was right underneath it:P

Q_Ball

It takes more than just pressing a few buttons to fly a helicopter in fairness. Maybe they were afraid that if they got it up they'd crash and either be killed or attract rage victims and be torn apart. I wouldn't have even bothered trying tbh

the flananator

Deleted User wrote: »

I was actually talking about the main characters, not the Army. But even though, i know i can't fly a helicopter, but the minute i see a helicopter i'd be in it and pressing everything and anything i could. Plus, its an army helicopter, there'd have to be a radio (dispatcher thing) in it. Might not work, but you'd give it a shot.

That could only end well. :rolleyes:

In fairness, this is a great film. Your complaint is silly to say the least. Now, if you wanted to criticise say its sequel, 28 Weeks Later, you'd have my backing. Its woeful.

Fallen Buckshot

the movie would've went better if they had taken off got going and noticed the damn thing was outta petrol crash landed broke they legs and the zombies came and raped them

keefg

It's only a film :P:D

Slow Motion

Of all the holes you could have picked:rolleyes:

This is a film forum and as such I have two phrases you might find of value,


"Dramatic Licence"

and

"Suspension of disbelief"

Hope they help;)

Simi

Not to mention they don't find out that only britain is affected until later in the film when Jim sees the plane? Only the smart army guy figured it out before that?

Now u may think great britain being an island that'd be the first thing they'd figure out. But there is always the channel tunnel. Who knows if that was sealed before some made it through.

Now the second film assumes it was, and the infected were completely isolated in great britain. I agree it's terrible btw. Trying to make a hollywood epic out of a cult classic was never going to go well though.

Slow Motion

Is there going to be a 3rd one? I didn't think the 2nd was that bad tbh although not a patch on the 1st!

Not The Real Scarecrow

Danny Boyle is apparently interested in coming back and directing the 3rd one, although alot of the stuff about it seems to be mixed , with one crowd saying directors are already attached and then being fired.Hope they do make it though, enjoyed the second one even though it wasn't as good as the 1st.Looks like the next big one will be z-wars...can't wait.

LeoGilly

Simi wrote: »

Now u may think great britain being an island that'd be the first thing they'd figure out. But there is always the channel tunnel. Who knows if that was sealed before some made it through.

Im pretty sure that

you see ragers getting to France at the end of the second film from the Tunnel.

Which sets up the next film. 28 months later?

helimachoptor

LeoGilly wrote: »

Im pretty sure that

you see ragers getting to France at the end of the second film from the Tunnel.

Which sets up the next film. 28 months later?

Yep and then 28 years later, then 28 centuries later when a new virus comes out turning everyone back into humans again

Ah now, if you knew you don't know how to fly a helicopter and it would waste time trying to, and there was a horde of Rage infected people after you, would you still try?

No, I'd say, feck that, lets keep going.

Tar.Aldarion

My compaint is that I watched this **** film.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah now, if you knew you don't know how to fly a helicopter and it would waste time trying to, and there was a horde of Rage infected people after you, would you still try?

No, I'd say, feck that, lets keep going.

Surrounding area was (or was portrayed to be) desserted at the time, though. There were all just standing around. They weren't in the process of fleeing from anyone.

All I'm saying is that it was silly of them to completely ignore the helicopter. Surely someone working on the set could've realise it would look silly, and they could have went with a tank or some other piece of machinery. Even just some additional dialogue to clear up why they weren't using it.

As i said, if it were real life and i were in that situation, i'd be in the helicopter straight away. I'm sure you'd work out how to ascend and descend after a few minutes. If it were real, once you decide to stay on the ground, you know you will die. Be it by binfection, starvation, dehydration, or whatever means, you are definitely dead. If you take to the air, you might only be in the helicopter for 30 seconds before landing and killing yourself in the process, but there's always the possibility of actually getting somewhere.

LeoGilly wrote: »

Im pretty sure that

you see ragers getting to France at the end of the second film from the Tunnel.

Which sets up the next film. 28 months later?

I think that the angle they're going with is

that the boy who was infected, but had the "natural immunity" from the disease (like his mam, who managed to survive for 28 weeks on her own) got to France in the helicopter, then maybe kissed someone or cried or whatever and infected those surrounding him

.


The second film wasn't too bad, i didn't think, to be honest. The minute you

see the kids escaping across the bridge

you know its not being an anyway accurate representation of what could happen.

FruitLover

Deleted User wrote: »

As i said, if it were real life and i were in that situation, i'd be in the helicopter straight away. I'm sure you'd work out how to ascend and descend after a few minutes.

As someone who has taken helicopter lessons (and consequently knows how difficult it is to control a basic training copter while it's in the air, never mind actually take off, never mind a bleedin' military turbine), I find this hilarious!

IanCurtis

I agree. How would someone completely untrained hop into a helicopter and fly to safety? Now THAT would have been a ridiculous scene.

Fysh

IanCurtis wrote: »

I agree. How would someone completely untrained hop into a helicopter and fly to safety? Now THAT would have been a ridiculous scene.

Don't you try and array your facts against the OP, damn you! Just because you happen to be factually correct doesn't mean you're right! Oh, wait...

On the subject of a third film, I'd probably watch it - Danny Boyle would probably bring something interesting to the table in that regard. I'm not so sure anything good would come of it with another director though...

Lu Tze

On a slightly different note, did anybody see the alternative ending? One of the most excellent extras i have found on a dvd

Fysh

Lu Tze wrote: »

On a slightly different note, did anybody see the alternative ending? One of the most excellent extras i have found on a dvd

Do you mean the alternate ending that they filmed (

where Cillian Murphy's character dies after being shot

) or the radical alternate ending that got as far as storyboards before being abandoned (

where instead of the military outpost they find a deserted medical research facility, and Danny sacrifices himself to save someone in the group who gets infected by giving his blood to be used for a full-body blood transfusion

)? Or is there another one I've forgotten?

Lu Tze

Neither. I seem to remember an alternative ending where

for the final few scenes they replace cillian murphy with a chicken...

It was class, comes second on best extra after Black Book's Bernard's Letter extra...

L1011

That alternate ending and the first one Fysh said are the same one.

The biggest problem I have with it is the fact that the lights are on in Morrisons (I think it was anyway, the supermarket) when they go in there!

L31mr0d

this thread reminds me of this

Futurism

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

My compaint is that I watched this **** film.

You've got red on you.