Boards Poker Football confirmed game this Saturday (20 Dec)

LuckyLloyd

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Hectorjelly

ill play

ditpoker

it is STILL spelled "Grosvenor" ... come on!!!
if Al doesnt play me up front against you at centre back i might quit.

THE PITCH IS FINE! Numerous clubs train every night of the week on it and still no injuries to report in about 3 years.

99% certain this will be a 90 minute game, but we can only 100% guarantee 4-5pm.

Pitch location:


The pitch:
http://www.straphaelas.ie/page.aspx?contentid=241

(Also, lloyd, any idea why we wouldnt provide you with a kit?? or is al just being a bit of a kit nazi!?)

LuckyLloyd

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jbravado

Inski.

carfax

inski please.

careca

Ya, wouldnt mind a game.

The_Chopper

I'm in

Nice to see Daragh and I will get a chance to destroy you guys with the magic of sam

ditpoker

carfax wrote: »

inski please.

When asked about his return to his old stomping ground Stephen McLean commented "inski please". Reporters are baffled! :P

shoutman

G'wan so, but if my poor knees get skint I will not be a happy camper.

Is their training/shower facilities out there?

ditpoker

shoutman wrote: »

G'wan so, but if my poor knees get skint I will not be a happy camper.

Is their training/shower facilities out there?

yes, there 100% is shower and changing facilities. I cannot, however, confirm whether we have a key or not. But they are definately there! :pac:

You'll see the pitch on saturday, people dont slice their knees on this surface at all, if you're still worried just wear trackie bottoms.

RoundTower

in

wear runners? shin guards?

that map looks really misleading, I can't quite figure out why. I do know exactly where the school is.

Hectorjelly

ditpoker wrote: »

THE PITCH IS FINE! Numerous clubs train every night of the week on it and still no injuries to report in about 3 years.

Yeah sorry, when you said hard I thought you meant harder than normal hockey astro.

The_Chopper

Guys regarding sliding tackles - do you think it might be better to rule these out given the surface and given that it's a friendly game? I know I don't want a broken leg for xmas given that I am the type of player that receives a lot of challenges, dodgy and otherwise.

ditpoker

pretty sure none of our players are all that bothered with sliding tackles, fairly lazy bastards all around. sure if you break your leg pre christmas at least you have a story!!

Round tower, i'd go with runners and shin guards, astro runners if u have a pair are probably best. have seen some people wear boots on the pitch but they usually dont do it twice.

the map is a bit odd alright. i'll see if i can find a better one.

EDIT:

ditpoker

on the second map there, the road at the "O" of stillOrgan wood, its that estate, at the end of that road, not where the TI of sTIllorgan wood is.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

stick me down

The_Chopper

ditpoker wrote: »

pretty sure none of our players are all that bothered with sliding tackles, fairly lazy bastards all around. sure if you break your leg pre christmas at least you have a story!!

Cool - so we'll let the ref know that if people slide it's a free the other way?

Trippie

ill play as well

Theresalwaysone

I'll play.

pocketdooz

In please.

Is this as well as, or instead of the Boards vs Boards game that was going on the 28th in UCD ?

semibluff

really would love to play this - but depends on getting out of a few things - also can we find out if there are showers to be used after?

If i got to luas stop, no prob getn picked up from there is ther?

LuckyLloyd

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ditpoker

work of the principle that there are no showers. They are there, but cant imagine the school will have them heated or that our manager will bother unlocking the facilities.

if you can get to a luas stop and make ur way to the luas stop nearest the pitch its max 5 mins walk up a straight road. easy. if you REALLY need a lift from it i can sort ya out.

semibluff

you'll collect me from parnell street??? SOUND!

ditpoker

mostly no

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

semibluff wrote: »

you'll collect me from parnell street??? SOUND!

Donal i will be driving from Drogheda if thats any help let me know

RoundTower

The_Chopper wrote: »

Cool - so we'll let the ref know that if people slide it's a free the other way?

what's next, no one is to jump more than 6 inches for a header?

let's just have a proper game, it's not the FA Cup final and most likely no one will do anything stupid.

ditpoker

slide tackles are allowed.

but to be fair, between our squad and those i know are playing i'd say there's max 5 people who CAN slide tackle!!

(to early to start the niggle?!)

Theresalwaysone

Telling the ref to give a free if someone slides is ridiculous.

This should be a good laugh though. Looking forward to it.

Hectorjelly

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Telling the ref to give a free if someone slides is ridiculous.

Why? In the three astro leagues I have played in slide tackles were all banned and punishable by at least a free (in one of them there was an automatic yellow card for it)

Theresalwaysone

Hectorjelly wrote: »

Why? In the three astro leagues I have played in slide tackles were all banned and punishable by at least a free (in one of them there was an automatic yellow card for it)

People should be able to choose whether they want to risk the friction burn or w/e of a sliding tackle. Not be handicapped by a silly rule.

Like any skill with specific technique if done correctly the risk of injury is minimal. The surface really wont make nearly as much a difference as people are saying.

YULETIRED

Hectorjelly wrote: »

Why? In the three astro leagues I have played in slide tackles were all banned and punishable by at least a free (in one of them there was an automatic yellow card for it)

I once got an infection from the astro turf (hockey pitch) up by marley park after my perectly safe and fair sliding tacle resulted in a burn ,
I think the rule to protect the slider also.

crosspost with ya there teresa.

Hectorjelly

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

People should be able to choose whether they want to risk the friction burn or w/e of a sliding tackle. Not be handicapped by a silly rule.

Like any skill with specific technique if done correctly the risk of injury is minimal. The surface really wont make nearly as much a difference as people are saying.

That's nonsense. It has nothing to do with someone's technique. Many great slide tackles result in both players on the ground. The penalty (in terms of frequency and severity of injury) of falling over is much greater in astro than on grass, and the reason the leagues ban them is to protect both the slider and the slidee. Grass is a really forgiving surface, asto isnt.

We banned them in our games after a sliding tackle resulted in a broken wrist.

The_Chopper

Hectorjelly wrote: »

That's nonsense. It has nothing to do with someone's technique. Many great slide tackles result in both players on the ground. The penalty (in terms of frequency and severity of injury) of falling over is much greater in astro than on grass, and the reason the leagues ban them is to protect both the slider and the slidee. Grass is a really forgiving surface, asto isnt.

I totally echo this. Every astro league I've ever played in bans sliding tackles. I have a scar on my right knee from a sliding tackle I received over 2 years ago, which left me out of football for a couple of months. Even if you slide perfectly as HJ said people are going to end up all over the place - however we're not premiership type players and sliding tackles will not be perfect and as i said before I don't want a broken leg for xmas or to miss out on my holidays in the new year.

To sum up, I'm not so worried about the tackle itself more so the end result, people hitting the deck, the person sliding etc.

That's just my point of view - and it won't stop me playing.

Sliding tackles are for lazy fookers who can't track back anyways

Theresalwaysone

Hectorjelly wrote: »

That's nonsense. It has nothing to do with someone's technique. Many great slide tackles result in both players on the ground. The penalty (in terms of frequency and severity of injury) of falling over is much greater in astro than on grass, and the reason the leagues ban them is to protect both the slider and the slidee. Grass is a really forgiving surface, asto isnt.

We banned them in our games after a sliding tackle resulted in a broken wrist.

Ok well where does it stop then? Should we be banning anything that has a high probability of people ending up on the ground? Shoulders/ Jumping for headers/Not wearing the correct footwear/ playing in the wet?

I disagree with it being banned in our games too btw. And basing it on someone broke their wrist this one time is silly reasoning.

LuckyLloyd

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Hectorjelly

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Ok well where does it stop then? Should we be banning anything that has a high probability of people ending up on the ground? Shoulders/ Jumping for headers/Not wearing the correct footwear/ playing in the wet?

That isn't an argument.

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

I disagree with it being banned in our games too btw. And basing it on someone broke their wrist this one time is silly reasoning.

It wasn't based on that, I had wanted to ban it for ages but it only became acceptable politically after someone broke their wrist directly because of a sliding tackle.

The people who run proper Astro leagues have banned them as well. Do you really think you know better than them?

ditpoker

this whole slide tackles thing is mostly a non issue, what i consider a slide tackle is man on ground stretched out and sliding across the surface to intercept/block a ball. you see maybe 5 max per game in the premiership.

two players stretching/leaning/running into eachother, while a soft/hard tackle is not a slide tackle.

a guy breaking a wrist/leg/ear/toenail in a tackle is no excuse for a rule change in my opinion. if a player pulls a hamstring, does it become a rule that all teams are required to warm up, or no sprinting inside the first 5 mins?

a bad tackle is a bad tackle whether standing sliding jumping, its BAD tackles that cause injuries. It is also 99% of the time a player pulling out of a tackle that gets injured.

everyone knows the risks of a physical contact sport, if i get caught by a flailing elbow or a keepers punch when i challenge for a ball from a corner and (for example) i will accept it as part of the game, if im worried about getting bruised i wont play.


and... eh... what lloyd said.
slide tackles allowed, fouls not.

way to summarise my point lloyd. lol

ditpoker

Hectorjelly wrote: »

The people who run proper Astro leagues have banned them as well. Do you really think you know better than them?

lads this is like comparing rally driving to go karting.

astro leagues "protect" their players to a greater deal. Having played in a regular league and an astro league i genuinely dont see how the can be compared.

As for arguing that Astro know better, to use your logic to Astro know better than FIFA? Or more specifically the Russian FA and half the FA's of Eastern europe where astro pitches are common place? Do Astro League management know more than them!?

ditpoker

anyway... my overall point.

the game will be refereed in a fair and consistant manner. regular football rules will apply. anything against the rules will be punished. all players should be aware of the risk of physical injury associated with a contact sport.

unfortunately as grass pitches are unavailable we have opted to play on an astro pitch. hopefully this wont put anyone off playing. While not ideal it is the best option available. and i hope everyone does play cos this sorta thing can only be good for the boards community. and it gets alot of us out of the scratcher!

LuckyLloyd

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The_Chopper

Llyod - what (if any) responsibility lies with the organiser, the club or Raphaela's School Stillorgan if the event of anything happening (not just sliding tackles)?

I only ask as the risk of injury when playing full contact on astro is considerably higher than on grass.

If you playing indoors (5-a-side) due to the say the weather would you still insist it 11-a-side, full contact, kick the ball as high as you want? Surely there has to be some scope to adapt to the different environments in which we play to combat for the higher risk of injury?

ditpoker

lol @ "lasting" damage.

chopper, regarding the onus of responsibility. As far as I know, our club/the school both have public liability insurance, so if you were injured by, for example, falling goalposts, or a fence catching fire and blowing into you or something extreme we are covered.

However, as with walking to the shops, if you get injured in normal circumstances you will have to rely on your own medical insurance, for example, vhi or bupa.

this is standard across the board.

thechamp87

The_Chopper wrote: »

Cool - so we'll let the ref know that if people slide it's a free the other way?

ahhhh will we tuck you in?

careca

I'm more worried about the large amounts of alcohol intake on Friday night.

Sorry skipper only joking, its the Late Late and bovril for me

YULETIRED

Up to very recently (when the ankle was crippled by a sandwich tackle) I had been playing twice a week.
The 1st game was a life or death game where no quarter given or taken (got a kick in the head whilst heading the ball) the 2nd game was more regimented, no crazy tackles are allowed and definitley no sliding tackles. The 1st game is an ill tempered affair with frequent injurys and the 2nd game is mainly a football game whereby the players are out to play skilful football and it's infinitely more enjoyable. Now if Lloyd and Jeff like to kick lumps out of each other that is thier bag, however there are quite a few people who wouldn't take kindly to a legal or illegal tackle that sends them hurtling to the ground on a hard astro pitch, one thing usually leads to another and players find themselves on thier hind legs and snorting angry air , In my experience if an allowance is not made for the pitch , human nature takes over and someone will get hurt. I would take particular exception to a badly timed sliding tackle on an astro pitch and I would probably be less than cautious myself in a returning tackle.....But if you set yer stall out to say it's a mans game well then at least everyone knows upfront it's going to be a physical game. Allowing sliding tackles means it's going to be a physical game. I'm easy with either myself (once I know) but I know which one I prefer.
THe bottom line is you guys are pub players and apart from maybe one or two you don't really know how to tackle perfectly so allowing sliding tackle is -EV in terms of
Injury expectation, ...IMO.

jbravado

Oh Sweet Jesus.

El Stuntman

poofters imo

careca

Without saying a word to the ref or players, I would be very surprised if there was one sliding tackle in the whole game. Late(*) tackles yes, but not sliding one.




*I got there as quick as I could ref.

Dub13

Hello folks,

On the soccer forum we are trying to get a few lads together for a bit of a kick about,if that works out we will try and arrange a game against another boards forum.Seems as you lot seem like you are set up would you be up for a challenge game some time in Feb..?