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Is this **** for real??

  • 17-12-2008 1:29am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭


    And other vids that are funny/crazy/just wrong! (please no nasty injury ones though)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGAgSD0Ejg

    Some kid doing a 100kg deadlift. I don't remember what I weighed when I was 11 but it wasn't 100kg! Surely this is a 2x bw dead or close? anyone else got something?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 117 ✭✭Cpaw


    Inappropriate thread title, Reported.

    Oh and its most likely fake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Wtf? Never mind I've read a few of your past posts, now I understand. I don't think its fake, he's lifting sumo style so there's a fairly short rom, I'm sure 100kg is entirely possible for an 11 year old if they have been training correctly, but its very impressive imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Some kid doing a 100kg deadlift. I don't remember what I weighed when I was 11 but it wasn't 100kg! Surely this is a 2x bw dead or close? anyone else got something?

    It says he's 41kg in the video notes so it's 2 and a half x bw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭madmik


    it looks real to me
    look how red his face goes when he raises the bar

    he lifts 80kg for 2 reps in another vid

    its mad what some kids can lift

    i saw another vid of a 5 year old kid deadlift 75lbs

    and another 7 year old kid who lifted 125lbs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    i think really it was the danish powerlifting chick you were looking at...........................................................i know i was :)

    but ya the vid looks well.. impressive lifting!! i think its 15yrs old before you can compete in ireland?? Hanley?? Gem?? any ideas?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    i think really it was the danish powerlifting chick you were looking at...........................................................i know i was :)

    but ya the vid looks well.. impressive lifting!! i think its 15yrs old before you can compete in ireland?? Hanley?? Gem?? any ideas?

    I think it may be 14 - I remember Nathan Meehan and another guy lifting when they were only 14 in 2007 at the National Champs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,514 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Has anyone here ever heard of the golfer KJ Choi, apparently he powerlifted in his teens and its reported that he squatted 160 kg @ 43 kg BW @ 13 years old :eek: TBH I was skeptical when I heard it but if an 11 year old can deadlift 100 kg...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 907 ✭✭✭AlphaMale 3OO


    Cpaw wrote: »
    Inappropriate thread title, Reported.

    Oh and its most likely fake.

    Why do you give a sh1te? Inappropriate LOCATION. Reported*



    *Simply couldn't be assed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 319 ✭✭daveywavey08


    God, Cpaw, you're an awful wanker. I bet you're a little geek


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Impressive, then you've got related crap like this;



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    i think really it was the danish powerlifting chick you were looking at...........................................................i know i was :)

    but ya the vid looks well.. impressive lifting!! i think its 15yrs old before you can compete in ireland?? Hanley?? Gem?? any ideas?

    I will search this danish chick...and yeah the comments in another vid of his say its 14. There's one of him doing 75kg squat, but seems questionable whether its below parallel. Its still impressive that he could even take that weight on his back, but if you're going to train might as well do it right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Cpaw wrote: »
    Inappropriate thread title, Reported.
    I really don't take kindly to people crying wolf. If you say you're reporting something then do it.
    God, Cpaw, you're an awful wanker. I bet you're a little geek
    You know that kind of language and treatment of another poster is completely unacceptable. Infracted.
    i think its 15yrs old before you can compete in ireland?? Hanley?? Gem?? any ideas?
    Good question, not sure - I remember there was a 14 yo at the 2007 Nationals but he wasn't 'officially' lifting. I think it's either 15/16 for the minimum age but Hanley can clarify.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    g'em wrote: »

    Good question, not sure - I remember there was a 14 yo at the 2007 Nationals but he wasn't 'officially' lifting. I think it's either 15/16 for the minimum age but Hanley can clarify.

    There were two 14 year lifters and they were both 'officially lifting', if you look at the IDFPA records page it says that the T1 category is for lifters who are 14-15yrs, it was the 12 year old who was lifting unofficially that day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,819 ✭✭✭✭g'em


    Malteaser! wrote: »
    if you look at the IDFPA records page it says that the T1 category is for lifters who are 14-15yrs, it was the 12 year old who was lifting unofficially that day.
    Ah, thank you! That was the one page I didn't check :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Was the 12 year old allowed to do back squats or was it just deads?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,234 ✭✭✭Malteaser!


    Roper wrote: »
    Was the 12 year old allowed to do back squats or was it just deads?

    He squatted 60kg, benched 35kg and deadlifted 70kg.

    @thedrifter, it was Dave FitzHenry's son.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,136 ✭✭✭Pugsley


    Given the crazy stuff young gymnasts can do, even with their small body weight, I'd well believe it's real. Very impressive lift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Hmmm,
    It depends on the kid and their development I suppose but would one not be concerned about loading bodyweight onto a kids spinal column?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    how so?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    how so?
    Again I don't know the kid, he could be shaving already, but an adult's spinal column has a great deal more muskle to protect it against the downward pressure of having a big ass weighted bar on your back having gone through the werewolf phase.

    I agree with kids weight training by the by, so I guess as long as it's being done properly it's all good.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Surely though as he worked up to 100kg he built up the necessary muscle to support his back along the way? The only thing I would wonder about is the use of a belt so early, but I guess as pointed out if its 2.5x bw he's entitled to it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Surely though as he worked up to 100kg he built up the necessary muscle to support his back along the way? The only thing I would wonder about is the use of a belt so early, but I guess as pointed out if its 2.5x bw he's entitled to it?

    Not necessarily. There's only so much muscle a prepubescent boy can develop. I would have large and significant questions about the belt use in the video.... large... significant...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Roper wrote: »
    Not necessarily. There's only so much muscle a prepubescent boy can develop. I would have large and significant questions about the belt use in the video.... large... significant...

    To be fair, there's 14 year olds in China clean and jerking 100+kg so obviously with training the body can adapt.

    I can't speak for the kid in the vid, but the Irish kid is the son of the guy to put up the biggest total ever in Ireland, and the only Irish guy to bench 300kg (he did it drug free too!!). So if there was someone I wanted watching me as a kid, it'd be him.

    I'm not sure how bad lifting is compared to things like full contact rugby and other things like that the young kids in Ireland are up to these days. Personally speaking, I was injured A LOT more as a kid playing contact sports than I have been as a lifter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Roper wrote: »
    Not necessarily. There's only so much muscle a prepubescent boy can develop. I would have large and significant questions about the belt use in the video.... large... significant...

    Out of interest what would be the questions? Not trying to be smart, but kids lifting is a little out of the ordinary and therefore an interesting topic no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Hanley,
    I don't know the chap involved and I'm sure it's all good. I don't know the situation so I won't comment any further on it tbh. 60kg certainly isn't uncommon around the world. I didn't mean to question that most of my post was aimed at the video in the OP. The question I had was re: spinal loading and it was just that, a question.
    Out of interest what would be the questions? Not trying to be smart, but kids lifting is a little out of the ordinary and therefore an interesting topic no?
    Well, let's begin with the belt:
    Why does a child (he is a child) need lumbar assistance with an exercise? And who suggested the belt to him? Probably an adult and ergo I'd say a pretty irresponsible one who probably doesn't understand how to train children. When does that kid take the belt off?
    The most important point here I think is the fact that he has been videoed, by an adult, and put on the web doing the lift. My point isn't that it's unethical (it is by any legislator's standards, at least in the civilised world) but that this lift is obviously not for the kid's benefit, it's some guy living vicariously, it's to show off what a great kid someone's coached. Aren't I great, I've got a kid who can pull 100 in a belt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    Do you not think that belt or no belt it would be extremely hard for an 11 year old to get up to a 2.5x bw dead without proper training? I know its not the same as someone my size having an equivalent dead, but its not like you could get an untrained kid, wrap a belt around him and tell him to lift? I realise there are differences between training a kid and an adult but I would've thought that at a certain weight/bw ratio the belt comes out, regardless of what that weight actually is?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,448 ✭✭✭Roper


    Do you not think that belt or no belt it would be extremely hard for an 11 year old to get up to a 2.5x bw dead without proper training? I know its not the same as someone my size having an equivalent dead, but its not like you could get an untrained kid, wrap a belt around him and tell him to lift? I realise there are differences between training a kid and an adult but I would've thought that at a certain weight/bw ratio the belt comes out, regardless of what that weight actually is?
    I'm not saying it wouldn't be hard, but the real danger of weight training for kids isn't growth stunting or any of those scare stories, it's people who want to make their child into the superman (or woman) they never were, and in the process ruin the kid.

    Why is an 11 year old doing a 2.5bw deadlift? Cos he's like, in love with the iron, man? He's prepubescent, so there are limits and they have to be respected for his sake as a future adult as well as a kid. Putting the belt on him just bypasses those limits which will put an inordinate amount of strain on the rest of his joints. I'm sure I could put a benching shirt on my 3 year old and have him lift something as well.

    This might be like "man he's so awesome I wish I was like that at 11 imagine the superman I'd be now", but the reality is you'd probably be a cripple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 863 ✭✭✭Mikel


    Roper wrote: »
    I'm not saying it wouldn't be hard, but the real danger of weight training for kids isn't growth stunting or any of those scare stories, it's people who want to make their child into the superman (or woman) they never were, and in the process ruin the kid.

    Why is an 11 year old doing a 2.5bw deadlift? Cos he's like, in love with the iron, man? He's prepubescent, so there are limits and they have to be respected for his sake as a future adult as well as a kid. Putting the belt on him just bypasses those limits which will put an inordinate amount of strain on the rest of his joints. I'm sure I could put a benching shirt on my 3 year old and have him lift something as well.

    This might be like "man he's so awesome I wish I was like that at 11 imagine the superman I'd be now", but the reality is you'd probably be a cripple.
    Whatever happened to Little Hercules?
    I bet he's ****ed


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