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Budget for WSOP?

  • 15-12-2008 11:20pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭


    I know there have been more than enough "where to stay in Vegas" etc threads, so apologies if this has been covered and Please redirect me if so.

    Not counting a $10K main event entry (assume satellite entry or other), what'd be a decent amount to budget for a WSOP "holiday".

    Flights, hotels, food, booze (no hookers or blow unless I manage to really piss off the missus before then), tourney buyins (assuming no big scores, but the odd cash to numb the pain a bit) and a decent amount of winning a bit/not losing too much low stakes cash games.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭smoothcall


    how long is a piece of string...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    smoothcall wrote: »
    how long is a piece of string...

    Yep, I know. But she asked me, so I'm asking yous.

    Ideally looking for "need at least ...... to halfway enjoy yourself" or "minimum if you leave out the pokers is ...." type help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,951 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Grafter wrote: »
    Yep, I know. But she asked me, so I'm asking yous.

    Ideally looking for "need at least ...... to halfway enjoy yourself" or "minimum if you leave out the pokers is ...." type help

    she asked you?
    you gotta learn poker > gf/wife - bringin them to vegas not good idea imo

    anyway gl with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,656 ✭✭✭dannydiamond


    Grafter wrote: »
    "minimum if you leave out the pokers"

    I'm pretty sure you have zero interest in the answer to this.
    Good op though,i've put off the 'big dance' for too long now and have vowed not to miss it this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    to be fair, I didn't say whether it was a trip for 1 or 2, or whether she was only offering me a 1 way ticket or a return :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    you gotta learn poker > gf/wife - bringin them to vegas not good idea imo
    LOL, it really isn't.

    I'd be interested in this too, I've been putting it off for too long too and I'd love to hear what people say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    I'm pretty sure you have zero interest in the answer to this.
    Good op though,i've put off the 'big show' for too long now and have vowed not to miss it this year.


    Yes and no.

    The answer to this is still valuable, if I can break even on the pokers.

    A better phrased OP would perhaps have been "what are the (non poker) expenses of a WSOP time Vegas holiday?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Grafter wrote: »
    The answer to this is still valuable, if I can break even on the pokers.

    A better phrased OP would perhaps have been "what are the (non poker) expenses of a WSOP time Vegas holiday?"
    Completely agree, I'd view it the same as any Poker playing, seperate BR's for each, life/holiday roll and a Poker roll that if I lost it all it wouldn't affect my life in any meaningful way (monetary speaking, whatever about being pissed off with myself, tilted, etc.) So to have the ability to go to Vegas, and even if the worst happens in the Poker you can still do everything that Vegas has to offer, if the Poker goes well then just do everything slightly better...

    IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    Ste05 wrote: »
    Completely agree, I'd view it the same as any Poker playing, seperate BR's for each, life/holiday roll and a Poker roll that if I lost it all it wouldn't affect my life in any meaningful way (monetary speaking, whatever about being pissed off with myself, tilted, etc.) So to have the ability to go to Vegas, and even if the worst happens in the Poker you can still do everything that Vegas has to offer, if the Poker goes well then just do everything slightly better...

    IMO.

    Wish I'd writ that. That's exactly what I mean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    i was in vegas last week so here is a very rough guide of what youl need that does not include poker monies.
    this is per person and is prob over the top but is easily enough to have a good time.

    food - $70-100 per day

    acc - $50-150 per night (depending what your looking for really)

    drinking money $50-70 per day

    clean entertainment e.g shows and attractions - $100 per day

    other entertainment e.g coke and hookers - budget should be unlimited :p

    traveling costs - you can ride the shuttle bus at a cost of $5 for 24 hours taxis do get pricey though. im not sure about flights caus i was aleady in the states when i went to vegas but shop around to get a good deal.

    if you win at pokers just add a zero onto all the prices above and have a good time :)

    hope this helps


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭Wolves


    How long are you planning on going for? And how many going?

    If you are planning a longish trip (2-4 weeks) and not going solo i would very much recommend renting a house off the strip and getting a hire car. Can find a lot of very resonable deals on this and it can work out a lot cheaper than hotel and taxis. Also can be cheaper because you can just head off and chill out easier and not end up hanging around the hotel bars and restaurants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭reilly110


    bubbleking wrote: »
    i was in vegas last week so here is a very rough guide of what youl need that does not include poker monies.
    this is per person and is prob over the top but is easily enough to have a good time.

    food - $70-100 per day

    acc - $50-150 per night (depending what your looking for really)

    drinking money $50-70 per day

    clean entertainment e.g shows and attractions - $100 per day

    other entertainment e.g coke and hookers - budget should be unlimited :p

    traveling costs - you can ride the shuttle bus at a cost of $5 for 24 hours taxis do get pricey though. im not sure about flights caus i was aleady in the states when i went to vegas but shop around to get a good deal.

    if you win at pokers just add a zero onto all the prices above and have a good time :)

    hope this helps



    wheres the deg gambling expenditure in this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,156 ✭✭✭cuterob


    reilly110 wrote: »
    wheres the deg gambling expenditure in this

    if you are a true degen you wont take into account money for food, drink, acc, shows and things to do.. all that is lumped into the gamblin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    coke=lots
    hookers=more
    poker=w/e

    anwser=lots+more-poker


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 138 ✭✭Mr Minraise


    coke=lots
    hookers=more
    poker=w/e

    anwser=lots+more-poker

    Absolute balla imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭ITT-Pat


    bubbleking wrote: »
    drinking money $50-70 per day

    really? how mush is you average drink in vegas?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,286 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    Gambool a ton and get comped everything obv imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,881 ✭✭✭bohsman


    ITT-Pat wrote: »
    really? how mush is you average drink in vegas?

    Pricey, over $5 for a bottle of corona as far as I can remember.


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    If you go to the clubs drink is very expensive. Can be $15 for a vodka and coke for example.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,019 ✭✭✭HoLLLLLaments


    Absolute balla imo.
    dont be jealous


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,924 ✭✭✭shoutman


    Drink at the tables before going out, works out an awful lot cheaper.

    Students can do the same, stand by a 25c slot machine, whenever a waitress walks by put in 25c and order a drink, 25c drinks FTW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭tipp86


    Jesus them vodka and cokes were strong in Pure.

    Could have been the free drink at the tables wasnt as strong. But i never saw myself to get as drunk as quick well worth $15 a go imo.

    You have to love vegas people just firing there credit cards over the bar in a nightclub for one drink.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    bubbleking wrote: »
    food - $70-100 per day

    No need to spend that much on food in Vegas everyday unless you want to.
    Seems out of sync to be 'ridin' the bus for $5 a day but forking out upto $100 everyday on food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭flushje


    The-Rigger wrote: »
    No need to spend that much on food in Vegas everyday unless you want to.



    I agree, spend about 20 on food a day.


    Its a strange question OP. Are you planning to play side events? Id be happy with 20k if you were.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    If I'm gonna go, I'm gonna rent a house for 3-4 weeks. A lot of them come with a car included. So you end up saving a fortune over what you'd pay to stay in a hotel (plus I'd go mad in a hotel for a month), and you get to cook there, have snacks/drinks in the fridge which again saves a fortune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭semibluff


    eating out each day in the likes of outback and a few nice places will be about 100$ p/p for the day.
    When it comesto drinking, if you want to do it properly - go to a show or one of the busy bars (good atmosphere, esp in newyork newyork, duelling pianists) it will be the same as dublin drink prices with this rising in nightclubs.

    If looking to have a few drinks at the tables its free (+tip) which may be a good idea before you head out. when i was there i went down for a few free drinks on the 1/2 table for an hour or so - 90 mins later got 6 free drinks . . . and was down 300 dollars! lol

    If playing 1/2 give yourself a few buy-ins and then a few medium sized satelites . . . probably 1500 if all goes bad.

    so for a week it should be about 400 dollars a day all included. This is presuming there are no poker winnings to speak of and for only one person


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 141 ✭✭Tribezz


    Breakfast lunch dinner, make sure and check out 'Ellis Island' casino 1 block behind The Flamingo. V old place but great food.

    Breakfast/brunch especially-- all cooked to order, massive meals for $2-$7. The meal of the day(often steak diner) was around 4 dollars.

    And with each meal you get a free $5 blackjack bet!!!! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 241 ✭✭Paul Spillane


    Flights, hotels, food, booze (no hookers or blow unless I manage to really piss off the missus before then), tourney buyins (assuming no big scores, but the odd cash to numb the pain a bit) and a decent amount of winning a bit/not losing too much low stakes cash games.


    bubbleking wrote: »
    i was in vegas last week so here is a very rough guide of what youl need that does not include poker monies.
    this is per person and is prob over the top but is easily enough to have a good time.

    food - $70-100 per day

    acc - $50-150 per night (depending what your looking for really)

    drinking money $50-70 per day

    clean entertainment e.g shows and attractions - $100 per day

    other entertainment e.g coke and hookers - budget should be unlimited :p

    traveling costs - you can ride the shuttle bus at a cost of $5 for 24 hours taxis do get pricey though. im not sure about flights caus i was aleady in the states when i went to vegas but shop around to get a good deal.

    if you win at pokers just add a zero onto all the prices above and have a good time :)

    hope this helps

    Flights: there are lots of deals atm just google.

    Hotels: http://www.thehendonmob.com/simon_galloway/alternative_vegas

    Food: Buffett to Wolfgang Puck, your in total control of that. My advice would be if you have a leak, Vegas is a food lovers paradise. All the best chefs in the world are in Vegas in some form or other, the wines pricey but you can't afford to not have it. anything from $20 to $400 ph

    Tourney buy-ins: ive played $20 comps when skint, Vegas poker caters for every pocket. Dont forget they still play limit stud there.

    Booze:Good. Booze is good in Vegas and very rarely paid for if you are employed by a forward thinking company! same as anywhere, a good drinker can sniff out value and vegas gives you all the clues. Do you need a scantily clad Japanese model to serve you Cocktails or will will a free beer ($1 tip) in the goald coast suit?

    Shows:Worth blowing money on, won't see so many amazing shows in one confined space and pay big to go to the big shows, its worth it. Normally some big music show on, google but id say about $100 ph (tips to the host always work as do tips to the receptionist http://www.thetwentydollartrick.com/

    Taxis are cheapish but you can end up taking 10 a day. The bus works fine as does the monorail. walking dependant on the heat. Tuc tuc's are yet to arrive.
    Other entertainment? Well, it is Vegas ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    bohsman wrote: »
    Pricey, over $5 for a bottle of corona as far as I can remember.

    you deserve to get raped for drinking corona in the first place


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭max_power


    Corona's my favourite beer by a long stretch, don't think i've ever had it in Ireland though.

    OP, it really does depend on yourself. Eating 2 meals a day in nice restaurants will cost upwards of $100, whereas I did it the scabby way and spent about $8 max a day on food, drank at the tables and on the streets and blew the rest degenning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Grafter


    Thanks Guys.

    I know that the question was too vague, but most ideas start that way (and I had to mention poker so we were on topic :) )

    I have got as far as ...

    Flights ... try and sat into summat with a package, otherwise cheapest.

    Hotel ... cheap and cheerful unless Boyles or PaddyPower are paying, so $100 per day max.

    Food ... some big prices quoted. For after the wins im(hopeful)o. Slap me if you see me spending $100 per day.

    Booze ... see food. A half decent bottle of red'll set me up nicely and I'll take it from there.

    Only 3 teeny problems.

    1) Sterling worth feck all.

    2) Mrs Grafter wants to come and thinks she should have buyins to match mine, even though she hasn't folded a hand, ever.

    3) Sh1t scared of flying. Fine line between pissed enough to get on a plane and too pissed to be allowed on the plane.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    i was in vegas for 3 weeks last summer. was very much on a budget.
    I had originally given myself $300 a day to include poker/food/accom etc for 6/7 days and was looking to spend about $2000 in the week, or €1200 at the time.

    Was travelling the states at the time so flights were a non issue, and i had a car with me. I stayed in the Stratosphere which is $30 between 2. (avoid staying there on July 4th, that night is about $200+ on its own).

    I played $100 max buy in $1-$2 NL cash games in binions. In binions and the golden nugget you'll get tourist standard cash games, in terms of tournaments they will have games along the lines of

    11am: $70 crapshoot
    2pm: $150-$250 main game of the day, great structure.
    8pm:$120 good structure
    11pm: $70 crapshoot
    2am: $30-$50 ABSOLUTE GAMBOOOL

    If i won some money i'd play a bigger game down on the strip. If i lost i'd just play a smaller buy in the next day. I was fairly strict with my budget and over a 3 week period actually was break even and that included playing 2 $500 games in the venetian and poker every day and seeing 3-4 shows.

    Vegas is mad, the strip is where everyone wants to be, the cheap budget and more beatable games are downtown.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,860 ✭✭✭ditpoker


    Grafter wrote: »
    Thanks Guys.

    I know that the question was too vague, but most ideas start that way (and I had to mention poker so we were on topic :) )

    I have got as far as ...

    Flights ... try and sat into summat with a package, otherwise cheapest.
    as far as i know, and dont quote me on this, but aerlingus will be doing dublin-vegas direct flights in a sale in august (about 13hr flight), heard this, but unconfirmed

    Hotel ... cheap and cheerful unless Boyles or PaddyPower are paying, so $100 per day max. stay in the stratosphere, right between the strip and downtown and $30 between two. easy.

    Food ... some big prices quoted. For after the wins im(hopeful)o. Slap me if you see me spending $100 per day. they have shops there too, breakfast lunch cheap and cheerful, something tasty in a restaurant in the evening. again, avoid places like The Venetian, or The Wynn, and brand names and you'll struggle to spend near $50.

    Booze ... see food. A half decent bottle of red'll set me up nicely and I'll take it from there. bottles of water about 75c! :p

    Only 3 teeny problems.

    1) Sterling worth feck all.

    2) Mrs Grafter wants to come and thinks she should have buyins to match mine, even though she hasn't folded a hand, ever.

    3) Sh1t scared of flying. Fine line between pissed enough to get on a plane and too pissed to be allowed on the plane.
    .


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭a-k-47


    Grafter wrote: »
    Thanks Guys.

    I know that the question was too vague, but most ideas start that way (and I had to mention poker so we were on topic :) )

    I have got as far as ...

    Flights ... try and sat into summat with a package, otherwise cheapest.

    Hotel ... cheap and cheerful unless Boyles or PaddyPower are paying, so $100 per day max.

    Food ... some big prices quoted. For after the wins im(hopeful)o. Slap me if you see me spending $100 per day.

    Booze ... see food. A half decent bottle of red'll set me up nicely and I'll take it from there.

    Only 3 teeny problems.

    1) Sterling worth feck all.

    2) Mrs Grafter wants to come and thinks she should have buyins to match mine, even though she hasn't folded a hand, ever.

    3) Sh1t scared of flying. Fine line between pissed enough to get on a plane and too pissed to be allowed on the plane.

    3/4 vallum should do the trick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 218 ✭✭CelticPhantom


    Grafter wrote: »
    2) Mrs Grafter wants to come and thinks she should have buyins to match mine, even though she hasn't folded a hand, ever.
    Get here to play Omaha Hi-Lo; she won't have to fold a hand ever:D


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