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EU support by country

  • 12-12-2008 12:50pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭


    EU support by country
    Source: Eurobarometer

    Research made after Irish referendum on Lisbon Treaty. The question was "What affect on your country makes EU membership?".

    % shows people who voted GOOD. Rest voted 'No' or 'Not good or not bad'



    1. Ireland (82%)
    2. Poland (77%)
    3. Denmark (77%)
    4. Estonia (76%)
    5. Slovakia (76%)

    6. Lithuania (75%)
    7. Greece (73%)
    8. Slovenia (71%)
    9. Belgium (70%)
    10. Netherlands (70%)
    11. Malta (69%)
    12. Luxembourg (68%)
    13. Spain (66%)
    14. Romania (65%)
    15. Czech Republic (64%)
    16. Portugal (61%)
    17. Cyprus (55%)
    18. Germany (55%)
    19. Finland (51%)
    20. Sweden (50%)
    21. France (49%)
    22. Latvia (48%)
    23. Bulgaria (47%)
    24. Italy (37%)
    25. Austria (36%)
    26. Hungary (36%)
    27. United Kingdom (36%)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,104 ✭✭✭✭djpbarry


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    23. Bulgaria (47%)
    24. Italy (37%)
    25. Austria (36%)
    26. Hungary (36%)
    27. United Kingdom (36%)
    Are the countries in red relegated at the end of the season?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Anyone else find it a little disturbing that none of the big countries are in the top 10. The founding states aren't even in the top 15!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,136 ✭✭✭WooPeeA


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Anyone else find it a little disturbing that none of the big countries are in the top 10. The founding states aren't even in the top 15!
    But even though they are not in the top 15, majority of people are EU supporters there. Look at the percentage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,777 ✭✭✭✭The Corinthian


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Anyone else find it a little disturbing that none of the big countries are in the top 10. The founding states aren't even in the top 15!
    The big countries are typically paying for the smaller ones, so they see less benefit and are aware that they're net contributors.

    Interesting that Italy is so low down though. A lot of it is down to the Euro, I suspect. Quite unpopular there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    The big countries are typically paying for the smaller ones, so they see less benefit and are aware that they're net contributors.

    Aren't we told all the time that the EU is a preferential club for the big countries? Those scores would seem to suggest the opposite...

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 81 ✭✭Eurosceptic2008


    It begs the question what result would there have been in referenda on Lisbon in most other EU states, where pro-EU attitudes are much weaker, and furthermore, it underlines that the no vote was not a no to Europe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    djpbarry wrote: »
    Are the countries in red relegated at the end of the season?

    It also looks like we may get promoted :D
    It begs the question what result would there have been in referenda on Lisbon in most other EU states, where pro-EU attitudes are much weaker, and furthermore, it underlines that the no vote was not a no to Europe.

    Support for the EU and support for lisbon are not necessarily the same thing. I think mastrick (and similar) was great for Ireland , and looking back would have been happy to vote for it.

    But the lisbon vote is for the "new" eu , not the one we have already. So you can be happy with the eu and vote no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    jhegarty wrote: »
    Support for the EU and support for lisbon are not necessarily the same thing. I think mastrick (and similar) was great for Ireland , and looking back would have been happy to vote for it.

    But the lisbon vote is for the "new" eu , not the one we have already. So you can be happy with the eu and vote no.

    I don't agree with your sentiments here. In essence, the Maastricht Treaty was much more the "new EU" that you're talking about, with the creation of the European Union, the EU pillar structure, and the eventual introduction of the euro. There are far less fundamental changes in Nice and Lisbon (and it could be argued that Lisbon is just a 'tidying up' of Nice, with Nice also being a 'tidying up' of Maastricht).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Nigsy


    And people are wondering why other countries did not get a chance to vote on this Lison scam.

    Our "representatives" are bought and paid for, the ordinary person wants nothing to do with the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Nigsy wrote: »
    And people are wondering why other countries did not get a chance to vote on this Lison scam.

    Our "representatives" are bought and paid for, the ordinary person wants nothing to do with the EU.

    And who would this be?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Nigsy


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    And who would this be?

    This would be the person who works in the private sector, has a family and wife to keep. No fat cat government pay checks, pensions and benefits.

    You know, those peole who are called stupid because they know exactly where this EU concept is heading, tyranny on a grand scale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Nigsy wrote: »
    This would be the person who works in the private sector, has a family and wife to keep. No fat cat government pay checks, pensions and benefits.

    Huzzah! I am an ordinary person...
    Nigsy wrote: »
    You know, those peole who are called stupid because they know exactly where this EU concept is heading, tyranny on a grand scale.

    ...and that's rubbish. Sorry to be so blunt, but I speak as I find, me.

    ordinarily,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Furious-Dave


    European nations have been waring for millennia and when they try to form treaties, what do people do? Complain!
    But perhaps a stronger Union is a bad thing and maybe having the US tell us what to do and let them set up missile sites in Eastern Europe is actually a good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    WooPeeA wrote: »
    EU support by country
    Source: Eurobarometer

    Research made after Irish referendum on Lisbon Treaty. The question was "What affect on your country makes EU membership?".

    Is that really how the question was phrased?

    I'm sure many people didn't understand it if it was.

    In any event, the question does not reflect EU support, just EU effect as perceived.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    djpbarry wrote: »
    Are the countries in red relegated at the end of the season?

    They become US states, and we get their underperforming states such as Utah and Washington state. Thus, no-one really knows where the political dissent is, the pollsters don't have to report as to reality (but based on presumed political opinion) and it allows countries to maximise their political capital. Much like securitisation of bank securities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Nigsy wrote: »
    This would be the person who works in the private sector, has a family and wife to keep. No fat cat government pay checks, pensions and benefits.

    You know, those peole who are called stupid because they know exactly where this EU concept is heading, tyranny on a grand scale.

    What Scofflaw said.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,230 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    European nations have been waring for millennia and when they try to form treaties, what do people do? Complain!
    But perhaps a stronger Union is a bad thing and maybe having the US tell us what to do and let them set up missile sites in Eastern Europe is actually a good thing.

    The Americans don't want an EU super-state, which is another good reason to support the EU. They were good for Europe during the Cold War, but I get the impression now that they are still trying to exert their authority, and at the same time winding up the Russians.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭omgiluvxmas


    the irish the biggest supporters of the eu? big shocker:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,889 ✭✭✭tolosenc


    molloyjh wrote: »
    The founding states aren't even in the top 15!

    Belgium is at 9, no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34 Nigsy


    European nations have been waring for millennia and when they try to form treaties, what do people do? Complain!
    But perhaps a stronger Union is a bad thing and maybe having the US tell us what to do and let them set up missile sites in Eastern Europe is actually a good thing.

    The average person does not fight wars, the elite fight wars. Read some history.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭ChocolateSauce


    Nigsy wrote: »
    The average person does not fight wars, the elite fight wars. Read some history.

    When WWI started, virtually the entire population of all the major nations, especially German and Britain, euphorically supported the war. Hundreds of thousands of young men rushed to enlist.

    WWII was fought by millions of people (the home front?), most of whom supported the cause they fought for.

    Yes, wars are fought by elites, but there are also fought by people.


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