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Should Kidney Swap BOD and Fitzgerald around?

  • 09-12-2008 3:46pm
    #1
    Munsterforever
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    Does it not seem logical that Kidney should swap Fitzgerald and O' Driscoll because BOD just isn't quick enough for outside centre anymore, and it would still leave BOD as a centre.. just leaving someone else to finish off with more pace.


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  • #2
    Pshan
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    How many threads have we had on this subject with the same response that they usally swap round during games. Though looking at the stats from last Saturday's game you'd wonder if either of them should be centres, between them they covered 15 meters with ball in hand.


  • #3
    ThomasH
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    Yeah not a bad idea. Depends on what game you want your team to play. But you're right BOD is not quick enough anymore but still has good power so him bashing up against his opponents (hopefully draw more than 2 players) and then quick offload to Fitzgerald.


  • #4
    RugbyFanatic
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    Munsterforever wrote: »
    Does it not seem logical that Kidney should swap Fitzgerald and O' Driscoll because BOD just isn't quick enough for outside centre anymore, and it would still leave BOD as a centre.. just leaving someone else to finish off with more pace.

    They do regularly during games.

    One thing that often worries me with this tatic however is surely if they're constantly switching at different times of the game their positioning won't be as good as it should be and they won't have as much time to get it right.


  • #5
    RugbyFanatic
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    Pshan wrote: »
    How many threads have we had on this subject with the same response that they usally swap round during games. Though looking at the stats from last Saturday's game you'd wonder if either of them should be centres, between them they covered 15 meters with ball in hand.


    If you watched the game you would see the reason for this was because Leinster's tatics were to get it out wide as quickly as possible to stretch the Castres defence.


  • #6
    Munsterforever
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    Yeah I did see that, but I mean like a permenant swap for Ireland so that they really get a feel for the swap.


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  • #7
    RugbyFanatic
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    Munsterforever wrote: »
    Yeah I did see that, but I mean like a permenant swap for Ireland so that they really get a feel for the swap.

    Thats what I'd like to see as well.

    But on the flip side one could argue that it keeps the opposition quessing.

    I believe they orginally swapped because Fitzgerald's tackling was deemed suspect however I think we have all seen over the last few months that this is simply not the case in fact Fitzgerald seems to be putting in harder hits than the forwards!


  • #8
    Pshan
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    RugbyFanatic wrote: »
    If you watched the game you would see the reason for this was because Leinster's tatics were to get it out wide as quickly as possible to stretch the Castres defence.

    I watched the highlights only but getting the ball out wide didn't seem to work as it took over 40 mins to score their first try and nearly another 20 before their second came. Should Leinster they have used their centres and maybe gone the direct route?


  • #9
    RugbyFanatic
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    Pshan wrote: »
    I watched the highlights only but getting the ball out wide didn't seem to work as it took over 40 mins to score their first try and nearly another 20 before their second came. Should Leinster they have used their centres and maybe gone the direct route?

    I have reason to believe BOD was coming into that game carrying a slight injury so not in that case.


  • #10
    phog
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    RugbyFanatic wrote: »
    If you watched the game you would see the reason for this was because Leinster's tatics were to get it out wide as quickly as possible to stretch the Castres defence.
    RugbyFanatic wrote: »
    I have reason to believe BOD was coming into that game carrying a slight injury so not in that case.

    According to Leinsterrugby Horgan wasn't fully match fit either. So Leinster wanted to get the ball out wide to an unwell Horgan, doesn't make sense, does it?


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    RugbyFanatic
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    phog wrote: »
    According to Leinsterrugby Horgan wasn't fully match fit either. So Leinster wanted to get the ball out wide to an unwell Horgan, doesn't make sense, does it?

    Probably because they'd prefer an uninjured BOD


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  • #12
    Serenity Now!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Serenity Now!


    Munsterforever wrote: »
    Does it not seem logical that Kidney should swap Fitzgerald and O' Driscoll because BOD just isn't quick enough for outside centre anymore, and it would still leave BOD as a centre.. just leaving someone else to finish off with more pace.
    Don't be fooled by the number on their shirts. BOD plays more at inside centre than Fitzgerald


  • #13
    phog
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    RugbyFanatic wrote: »
    I have reason to believe BOD was coming into that game carrying a slight injury so not in that case.
    RugbyFanatic wrote: »
    Probably because they'd prefer an uninjured BOD

    What?:confused:


  • #14
    RugbyFanatic
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    phog wrote: »
    What?:confused:

    You need someone of BOD's experience playing in a HC game he was carrying a knock but there was a good chance he would come out of the game fine i.e not worsen the knock.

    However the more you use BOD in play the more the chance that he might injure his knock further becomes.

    It was a risky decision but one that ultimately paid off a large part due to the fact that they decided to spread the ball wide instead of using a slightly injured BOD as a battering ram.

    ;)


  • #15
    sm.org
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    phog wrote: »
    According to Leinsterrugby Horgan wasn't fully match fit either. So Leinster wanted to get the ball out wide to an unwell Horgan, doesn't make sense, does it?


    Played well enough especially if carrying an injury. He's one player I'd love to see return to his full capabilities. Get him back on the wing for Ireland and Kearney back to 15 I say.


  • #16
    corny
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    Serenity Now! wrote: »
    Don't be fooled by the number on their shirts. BOD plays more at inside centre than Fitzgerald

    Everyone keeps saying they change during the match. They don't. Against NZ and Argentina Fitzgerald never lined up in the inside channel in attack or defence. Personally i'd like to see BOD line up with 13 on his back and actually play there. His game was never about blistering pace anyway, it was his intelligence in the position (actual running lines) that made him the best 13 of his generation. He still can be in my book. He's wasted at 12.


  • #17
    twinytwo
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    corny wrote: »
    Everyone keeps saying they change during the match. They don't. Against NZ and Argentina Fitzgerald never lined up in the inside channel in attack or defence. Personally i'd like to see BOD line up with 13 on his back and actually play there. His game was never about blistering pace anyway, it was his intelligence in the position (actual running lines) that made him the best 13 of his generation. He still can be in my book. He's wasted at 12.

    exactly... and its not like fitz does anything at 12... he might as well have not been on the pitch at all against the pumas..Would he do anything at 13?.. prob not


  • #18
    twinytwo
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    sm.org wrote: »
    Played well enough especially if carrying an injury. He's one player I'd love to see return to his full capabilities. Get him back on the wing for Ireland and Kearney back to 15 I say.

    exactly


  • #19
    Pshan
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    sm.org wrote: »
    Played well enough especially if carrying an injury. He's one player I'd love to see return to his full capabilities. Get him back on the wing for Ireland and Kearney back to 15 I say.

    Was always one of my favourites, however i think he has had a huge dip in form. Hopefully will come good again for Leinster and Ireland. Also agree about Kearney at FB, he needs to play there for province and country.


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