Is a Pass Degree enough?

enfant terrible

Is a Pass Degree enough for the Hibernia Higher Diploma in Arts in Primary Education?

It says on the entry requirements
A primary degree (National Framework of Qualifications Level 8)

Thanks,
Nick

hot chick

Technically it's enough.
I got into a PGCE in the UK with a level 8 degree, but here you're competing against a lot of people with level 9 (Hons) degrees.
Even if you've a lot of experience I wouldn't be that hopeful.
Your best bet is to ring the college, speak to the head of the course if you can, and ask them.

KateF

hot chick wrote: »

Your best bet is to ring the college, speak to the head of the course if you can, and ask them.

Yeah theres a lot to be said for calling them up. Not many people do it, so it bodes well for you if you get talking to someone in charge

Tom Dunne

Just to clarify - a level 8 degree is an honours degree, a level 9 award is a masters.

enfant terrible

Thanks for the replies.

Looks like you need a very good interview with a pass degree.

enfant terrible

Tom Dunne wrote: »

Just to clarify - a level 8 degree is an honours degree, a level 9 award is a masters.

So is a pass degree enough would you think?

An Bradán Feasa

enfant terrible wrote: »

So is a pass degree enough would you think?

Just to clarify for everybody - do you mean a Pass grade in a Level 8 Degree? Level 8 Degrees are called Honours degrees regardless of the grade.

But to answer your question: Yes, a Pass grade in a Level 8 Degree is enough. I know of people who got in with this.

lemon125

An Bradán Feasa wrote: »

Just to clarify for everybody - do you mean a Pass grade in a Level 8 Degree? Level 8 Degrees are called Honours degrees regardless of the grade.

But to answer your question: Yes, a Pass grade in a Level 8 Degree is enough. I know of people who got in with this.

Are you sure that a pass degree in a level 8 degree is still a level 8 degree. I had left college when these changes were made so dont have a clue what to put down on application forms when they ask. I have a pass degree from a level 8 honours course

Tom Dunne

lemon125 wrote: »

Are you sure that a pass degree in a level 8 degree is still a level 8 degree. I had left college when these changes were made so dont have a clue what to put down on application forms when they ask. I have a pass degree from a level 8 honours course

Yes, I am certain.

The award is an honours degree, it is not a pass honours degree, it is not an honours, honours degree.

They don't "downgrade" your level 8 award because you "only" passed it.

lemon125

You dont know how much that has cheerd me up, i know its only small but I'm delighted that its still a level 8

snowdaze

Hibernia will no longer acccept a level 7 ordinary (pass) degree like they did several years ago. It must be a level 8 and it must be a degree. I have a friend who thought she could get in with a level 8 which was a diploma. Hibernia offered her the place, took the deposit etc and later told her it was not acceptable just before her start date!!! it is the dept of ed that require your level 8 to be a level 8 degree...

sheff the ref

So from reading this topic can it be taken for granted that

A pass degree in UL/UCC etc. is a level 8 degree regardless of whether an honours grade was obtained or not

rainbowtrout

A Diploma (available mainly from ITs) is now called an Ordinary Degree, Level 7

A Degree (which was available at Honours or Pass Level) is now an Honours Degree, Level 8


Where the confusion arises is that Degrees used to be awarded as 1.1 Hons, 2.1 Hons, 2.2 Hons and Pass ( as was the way in UL which was mentioned above)

To distinguish a pass at honours level in a Level 8 award from a Level 7 Ordinary Degree, a pass at Level 8 is now called a third class honours to the best of my knowledge.


My brother graduated from UL in 2005 with a Level 8 degree, in 2004 he would have been awarded a pass, but the system changed in 2005 and instead he got 3rd class honours, which makes it sound like he did an awful lot more work to my mother who doesn't know the difference.



So in a nutshell:


Diploma (Pre 2005) = Level 7 Ordinary Degree (2005 onwards)
Degree (Pre 2005) 1.1 Hons, 2.1 Hons, 2.2 Hons, Pass =
Level 8 Hons Degree (2005 onwards) 1.1 Hons, 2.1 Hons, 2.2 Hons, 3rd Hons