NCEHS vs NCEF

celestial

Hey guys,

I'm just wondering if someone can answer something for me (looking in particular to the likes of Transform, Cowzerp and others here).

If someone wanted to qualify as a personal trainer (i.e complete a course that enables you to get insurance to work as a PT and is generally recognised in Ireland and worldwide for such purposes), would it be better recognition-wise to do the NCEF course as opposed to the NCEHS one at the NTC, because the NCEF course is accredited by and affiliated with the University of Limerick?

From reading about feedback from PTs and what I've heard, the NCEHS course is slightly better content wise, and they have a purpose-built facility at their training centre (can't seem to find if NCEF have one, it does say they are based at Sportslink though).

Both course as recognised by the EHFA which I've heard is the European body, funded by the EU, for establishing a pan European qualification structure.

I do realise that there is no universal standard that these course providers have to adhere to, and that success as a PT is down to results and reputation, but am just thinking that if you can say your course is accredited by somewhere like UL then surely you are in a better position, esp if someone is questioning your credentials, esp at the start of your career?

Any thoughts?

Zamboni

NCEHS is accredited by the University of Loughborough in the UK which is a very reputable sports focused university.
http://www.lboro.ac.uk/sport/

I did the NCEHS years ago and I have seen the course materials for the NCEF and I find them very similar.
Both will get you insurance and both are accepted by gyms as the standard qualification.

They are similar in cost and duration so I would choose the course based on convenience/location.

*waits for the NCEHS V NCEF graduate battle*

celestial

Zamboni wrote: »

NCEHS is accredited by the University of Loughborough in the UK which is a very reputable sports focused university.

I did the NCEHS years ago and I have seen the course materials for the NCEF and I find them very similar.
Both will get you insurance and both are accepted by gyms as the standard qualification.

They are similar in cost and duration so I would choose the course based on convenience/location.

*waits for the NCEHS V NCEF graduate battle*

Cheers mate - don't see any info online on the Loughborough accreditation - any links?

Zamboni

celestial wrote: »

Cheers mate - don't see any info online on the Loughborough accreditation - any links?

Is it not on the site? Jesus they're slack
No link but its on the course material and I had it confirmed by the NTC for a dissertation I did in the industry.

cowzerp

Both are equally recognised but in my experience the NCEHS trainee's are a bit more knowledgeable when they leave the course, as i always say-they are just the start of the journey, the rest is your own extra studies, wheter official courses or on line study etc..do both!


my main complaint about the ncef course was how little nutrition is covered, 1 a4 page was the info for the whole course that 1 of my co workers had, it would take abour 5 mins to learn it all. and nutrition is such a huge part of PT and getting any results wheter it be bulking or cutting or even performance..

celestial

Cheers cowzerp. Remember you saying before about the nutrition one-sheeter alright..

anyone else?

d-gal

Both equal enough, from what I have heard NCEF have put a bit more effort into Nutrition this year, have not seen the content. I would go which ever is handiest for you. Both have a good reputation abroad as well

cowzerp

Celestial, i have to add, when the course is finished the qualifications have to be maintained by attending further education-you get cec's for that, they are the likes of spinning, step etc,it will cost about 2000 every 4 years or so! ..and is a poor excuses for making money off the trainers.

ncehs only have a few of these so when they run out your basically left with no alternative but to do the Physio course to keep your qualification active! its all a big rip off and 1 reason why i would just get qualified there and then forget the cert and get certified with on line courses etc..to stay current-cheaper and you learn actual stuff, rather than spin, step etc..

Anyway-hope this gives you food for thought.

celestial

cowzerp wrote: »

Celestial, i have to add, when the course is finished the qualifications have to be maintained by attending further education-you get cec's for that, they are the likes of spinning, step etc,it will cost about 2000 every 4 years or so! ..and is a poor excuses for making money off the trainers.

ncehs only have a few of these so when they run out your basically left with no alternative but to do the Physio course to keep your qualification active! its all a big rip off and 1 reason why i would just get qualified there and then forget the cert and get certified with on line courses etc..to stay current-cheaper and you learn actual stuff, rather than spin, step etc..

Anyway-hope this gives you food for thought.

Hmm. So do you mean that once you finish the NCEHS cert you can get round the added expense of doing extra courses with them by doing online ones? Do they accept the online ones for those continuous learning credits?

cowzerp

celestial wrote: »

Hmm. So do you mean that once you finish the NCEHS cert you can get round the added expense of doing extra courses with them by doing online ones? Do they accept the online ones for those continuous learning credits?

No they wont, thats the problem, even when the online 1 is better and more recognised than there whole course, leaving there cert void in my opinion-i'd do the irish 1 to learn the basics so that you can get a better cert online that would be a struggle if you tried to do it in the 1st place without a background in fitness..

therefore not given them anymore of your money for pointless courses that they provide after, i think the ncef does the same thing though!

Zamboni

Good point Cowzerp.

There is no independent body in Ireland that credits trainers with Continuing Education points other than the ones privately run by the course providers themselves (which is a bit rich imo).
They are really means of making profit.

However continuing education in a field such as health & fitness is essential and part of being a professional is keeping your skills up to date.

But I'd rather do part time diplomas/degrees in a Uni than a feckin Step Aerobics course. :pac:

celestial

Hmm yeah, sounds a bit scammy although I guess they are a for-profit organisation... how do you manage to stay 'qualified' then, I presume you still have to take NCEHS approved courses to achieve this? What about 10 years from now? Guess things might have changed in the fitness industry re qualifications by then..maybe.

I'm actually signed up for the course already! I would be looking possibly to do a sports massage course/physical therapy course part-time after doing it too, so maybe that would count towards continuous learning credits?

aye

I just got qualified in the ISSA personal trainer cert.
http://www.portobelloschool.ie/pagecarrier.aspx?pageid=98

it was a good course and covers a lot on nutrition.
i would say that it could have been more pratical based, and a lot was theory.

I havent seen the NCEF level 2 personal trainer course material, i did the NCEF level 1 fitness instructor course alright. that was very practical, and while it didnt cover much on nutrition we were told that the personal trainer course covers it in more depth.

dcRoadie

Hey there,

Long time lurker first time poster etc.

I am currently studying the NCEHS course, I asked that question regarding CPD and they confirmed to me that the course did not have to be an NCEHS or NTC delivered course.

dc

celestial

dcRoadie wrote: »

Hey there,

Long time lurker first time poster etc.

I am currently studying the NCEHS course, I asked that question regarding CPD and they confirmed to me that the course did not have to be an NCEHS or NTC delivered course.

dc

Cheers - this is more in line with what I thought was the case - that it can be any type of course, rather than limited to NTC....

How are you finding the course? also, can you confirm if the course is accredited by Loughborough university in England? I do rem reading that somewhere on the site but can't find it now

Zamboni

Don't get bogged down in this points nonsense mate.
In as nutshell once you have earned the NCEHS qualification its yours.
They can't exactly take it off you.

Once you satisfy your insurer that you are continuing to update your skills and maintain your knowldge thats what counts.

dcRoadie

Celestial,

You know, to be honest the course is actually quite good! The anatomy and physiology aspect is apparently "excellent" (words of my girlfriend who has a degree in A & P), Nutrition aspect very good, detailed. Resistance Training, well thought out, offering lots of alternatives for particular exercises, safety orientated etc. I won't go into each aspect of the course, suffice to say I feel it's money well spent.

One thing though - Its not evident to me that everybody who is doing the course has a particular interest in it, there's lots of absenteeism (Saturday mornings especially!) and some people don't want to do a particular aspect - say exercise to music - It's not my favourite either but if you want something bad enough you'll do it.

The hardest part, is getting the time to dedicate to the study on top of the course, day job, family, training etc. but it'll be worth it in the end.

dc

cowzerp

dcRoadie wrote: »

I am currently studying the NCEHS course, I asked that question regarding CPD and they confirmed to me that the course did not have to be an NCEHS or NTC delivered course.

Yes you can get points for doing courses else where but its all the ****tty step ones etc..not for the likes of the issa course which is better than the ncef/ncehs..the online american ones is where you'll advance your knowledge best-unless your actually able to go over and do them which would be better again..

Jimmy Bottlehead

How does the FETAC Level 6 Advanced Certificate in Leisure Centre Instruction run through FAS compare for an entry level qualification?

http://jobbank.fas.ie/servlet/Watis?SESS=32441_4&SERVICE=CRITERIUMBROWSE&COURSE_CODE=S47&TEMPLATE=WWW_JS_TRAIN_CRITERIUM_BROWSE.HTM&ROW=4&BACK=TEMPLATE%3DWWW_JS_TRAIN_CRITERIUM_OVERVIEW.HTM

cowzerp

It is what it says, entry level-i used to teach these, there a way of getting into the industry, if you leave it at that you wont be up to much!

Jimmy Bottlehead

cowzerp wrote: »

It is what it says, entry level-i used to teach these, there a way of getting into the industry, if you leave it at that you wont be up to much!

Thanks for the quick reply, man!

Aye, I know. I've read all of yours and Boru's posts in the past, and I realise self improvement is the only way to make it as an instructor (hopefully PT down the road) and stay in the business.

As long as this is a stepping stone, thats all that matters!

crotalus667

dcRoadie wrote: »

Hey there,

Long time lurker first time poster etc.

I am currently studying the NCEHS course, I asked that question regarding CPD and they confirmed to me that the course did not have to be an NCEHS or NTC delivered course.

dc

I just finished the exams at the ntc , the whole points system is being scraped so once you get it you have it for life when you have M next (you know who I’m talking about) ask her about it we where talking about it in the step course on Sunday (the step course is free as part of the fitness instructor / personal trainer course)


I looked into a number of course’s before taking the plunge and the ntc are defiantly the ones to go with

celestial

crotalus667 wrote: »

I just finished the exams at the ntc , the whole points system is being scraped so once you get it you have it for life when you have M next (you know who I’m talking about) ask her about it we where talking about it in the step course on Sunday (the step course is free as part of the fitness instructor / personal trainer course)


I looked into a number of course’s before taking the plunge and the ntc are defiantly the ones to go with

Cheers buddy - glad to hear that they are scrapping it - sounds good! and I also got a much better vibe off NTC generally and also from what I have heard they are the ones to go with - how have you found the course - do you plan to PT part time?

crotalus667

celestial wrote: »

how have you found the course - do you plan to PT part time?

The course was good some of the anatomy can be a bit tricky to get you head around but as the weeks go on particularly near the end of the course it all seems to come together with the other subjects , most of the lads (including me) where dreading the exercise to music class but it is sooooo much fun , sports nutrition is about 10 or 12 lessons so it covers all of what you need to know to be a pt . The great thing about the ntc is the staff most of them are working as pt’s as well as teaching so you can really pick their brains about it , for instance one of the tutors specialises in pre and post natal exercise so she was great to talk to another one runs kettle bell classes , they all give out their email so you can bounce questions back and forth with them

There is also a class dedicated to marketing , every angel of the business they cover, including how to make sure your potential clients are ready to hire you ( that’s part of a class that deals with the different stages people go threw from the first contemplation to maintaining their achieved goal)

I could go on for ages about the course if you have any more questions feel free to ask

Ps

Yes I do intend to do pt work a gym instructors pay is bad so you pretty much have to if you want to make a decent living

celestial

crotalus667 wrote: »

The course was good some of the anatomy can be a bit tricky to get you head around but as the weeks go on particularly near the end of the course it all seems to come together with the other subjects , most of the lads (including me) where dreading the exercise to music class but it is sooooo much fun , sports nutrition is about 10 or 12 lessons so it covers all of what you need to know to be a pt . The great thing about the ntc is the staff most of them are working as pt’s as well as teaching so you can really pick their brains about it , for instance one of the tutors specialises in pre and post natal exercise so she was great to talk to another one runs kettle bell classes , they all give out their email so you can bounce questions back and forth with them

There is also a class dedicated to marketing , every angel of the business they cover, including how to make sure your potential clients are ready to hire you ( that’s part of a class that deals with the different stages people go threw from the first contemplation to maintaining their achieved goal)

I could go on for ages about the course if you have any more questions feel free to ask

Ps

Yes I do intend to do pt work a gym instructors pay is bad so you pretty much have to if you want to make a decent living

Sent you a PM man

manunited

Sorry i know i may be overlapping on some of the info in this thread already but thinking of doing the NCEF in UCD this year and someone mentioned the ISSA qualification previously in the thread..is the ISSA a good course to do or would the NCEF be a much better one? Any advice welcome..

aye

manunited wrote: »

Sorry i know i may be overlapping on some of the info in this thread already but thinking of doing the NCEF in UCD this year and someone mentioned the ISSA qualification previously in the thread..is the ISSA a good course to do or would the NCEF be a much better one? Any advice welcome..

Hi,

The ISSA course is a personal trainer course, and the NCEF level 1 (I presume thats the one you mean) is a fitness instructor course.

Most personal trainer course require a fitness instructor qualification for entry.
The ISSA course doesnt, but personally I think you would benefit much more by getting a fitness instructor qualification first and then the personal trainer qualification.

manunited

Hi aya,thanks for the quick response.. there is an ISSA fitness therapist course which you do first and so i wasnt sure whether that one or the NCEF would be better..judging by what i've read previously though i get the impression the NCEF would be a much better one.. i think anyway :-)

jimybart

Hi
Im also interested in taking the ntc personal trainer coarse starting
05 oct 09, the day course 4 days a week for 18 weeks. Dublin.
Im reasonably fit but don't have any experience in the field other than going to the gym and have a interest in keeping fit
ill be going in as a mature student no kids plenty of time on my hands!!was in construction for several years. looking for a new direction.

Thing is, do i need to have some health and fitness courses taken before i start this one or is this a good course to start off with?
i know it has on the site that i dont need any experience and it would be fare to say that id need to build on my health/fitness courses after this one
but has anyone started off on this one?
and advice

thanks in advance
Tony...

celestial

jimybart wrote: »

Hi
Im also interested in taking the ntc personal trainer coarse starting
05 oct 09, the day course 4 days a week for 18 weeks. Dublin.
Im reasonably fit but don't have any experience in the field other than going to the gym and have a interest in keeping fit
ill be going in as a mature student no kids plenty of time on my hands!!was in construction for several years. looking for a new direction.

Thing is, do i need to have some health and fitness courses taken before i start this one or is this a good course to start off with?
i know it has on the site that i dont need any experience and it would be fare to say that id need to build on my health/fitness courses after this one
but has anyone started off on this one?
and advice

thanks in advance
Tony...

Nope, you don't need to have taken any previous courses - they're not lying Of course, any solid info that you have picked up prior to the course will stand to you. It is basic but offers a good grounding and is challenging and enjoyable. If, as in your case, you don't have any other commitments and so can devote as much time as you want to it then you will be laughing.

E.Ben

jimybart wrote: »

Hi
Im also interested in taking the ntc personal trainer coarse starting
05 oct 09, the day course 4 days a week for 18 weeks. Dublin.
Im reasonably fit but don't have any experience in the field other than going to the gym and have a interest in keeping fit
ill be going in as a mature student no kids plenty of time on my hands!!was in construction for several years. looking for a new direction.

Thing is, do i need to have some health and fitness courses taken before i start this one or is this a good course to start off with?
i know it has on the site that i dont need any experience and it would be fare to say that id need to build on my health/fitness courses after this one
but has anyone started off on this one?
and advice

thanks in advance
Tony...

Tony, I am pretty much in the same situation as yourself, mature student looking for a change in direction. Will be starting the Oct fulltime course too. See you then.

jimybart

Dow! when i went to book the coarse on monday they where sold out of the day coarse, cant do eve coarse
have to hang on till jan, tho i have my name down in the event of any cancellations so hopefully :mad:

eskimo

Hey, I have a few questions about the NCEHS course at the NTC which I'd really appreciate some help with.

I'm a little confused about this particular course, how it compares to other similar courses and the different qualifications available.

On completion of the NCEHS, what is the graduate qualified to do exactly?

Also, I notice there are Fitness Instructor courses and there are Personal Trainer courses available to study in different colleges. Am I right in saying the NCEHS qualifies you as a fully-trained personal trainer AND a fully qualified fitness instructor?

The NCEHS course is 11 hours per week for 18 weeks. However, the NCEF course at the Portobello Institute is Full time for 9 months. Clearly this NCEF course is far more detailed, so would it be the better course to go with?

Or rather than qualification levels, is it more about what you can get insured to work as based on your particular qualification?

Finally, I get the impression from certain posts in this thread that the ISSA is really the ultimate international fitness qualification to have - am I right in thinking this? And if so, would I be better studying for an ISSA qualification rather than the NTC or NCEF qualification?

Transform

eskimo wrote: »

Hey, I have a few questions about the NCEHS course at the NTC which I'd really appreciate some help with.

I'm a little confused about this particular course, how it compares to other similar courses and the different qualifications available.

On completion of the NCEHS, what is the graduate qualified to do exactly?

Also, I notice there are Fitness Instructor courses and there are Personal Trainer courses available to study in different colleges. Am I right in saying the NCEHS qualifies you as a fully-trained personal trainer AND a fully qualified fitness instructor?

The NCEHS course is 11 hours per week for 18 weeks. However, the NCEF course at the Portobello Institute is Full time for 9 months. Clearly this NCEF course is far more detailed, so would it be the better course to go with?

Or rather than qualification levels, is it more about what you can get insured to work as based on your particular qualification?

Finally, I get the impression from certain posts in this thread that the ISSA is really the ultimate international fitness qualification to have - am I right in thinking this? And if so, would I be better studying for an ISSA qualification rather than the NTC or NCEF qualification?

wow becoming a personal trainer seems like the big thing to do right now!!!

Only wish they would emphasise the business aspect of it more rather than letting people think they are going to have clients beating the door down to get them.

e.g. look at the topics for the fitpro convention next year - http://www.fitpro.com/convention10/documents/SC10-timetable.pdf

there is wayyyy more focus on the business part of it this year than any other i have ever seen.

Plenty of trainers out there with feck all clients so my advice - get the basics from what ever course you choose and then go and learn from others who have made some mistakes and know the business side of becoming a really successful trainer.

corkcomp

Transform wrote: »

wow becoming a personal trainer seems like the big thing to do right now!!!

Only wish they would emphasise the business aspect of it more rather than letting people think they are going to have clients beating the door down to get them.

e.g. look at the topics for the fitpro convention next year - http://www.fitpro.com/convention10/documents/SC10-timetable.pdf

there is wayyyy more focus on the business part of it this year than any other i have ever seen.

Plenty of trainers out there with feck all clients so my advice - get the basics from what ever course you choose and then go and learn from others who have made some mistakes and know the business side of becoming a really successful trainer.

good advice there .... Also, the business element will be even more critical if being a PT is your sole career ... if people are just looking for a part time job and still have a weekly wage from some other source it would be way easier ..

eskimo

I already have a degree in business... Should that affect my decision on which course to choose much? Or will the business-side of things in a fitness course be much different?

Transform

eskimo wrote: »

I already have a degree in business... Should that affect my decision on which course to choose much? Or will the business-side of things in a fitness course be much different?

god no the business background will put you miles ahead.

Just get the qualification asap and get working on the coal face with people daily - you will learn way more that way than plain theory.

eskimo

Transform wrote: »

god no the business background will put you miles ahead.

Just get the qualification asap and get working on the coal face with people daily - you will learn way more that way than plain theory.

Um, what does this mean?

cmyk

eskimo wrote: »

Um, what does this mean?

It's just a saying, in a nutshell means to work on the frontline...get your hands dirty etc, start dealing directly with clients.

Transform

cmyk wrote: »

It's just a saying, in a nutshell means to work on the frontline...get your hands dirty etc, start dealing directly with clients.

exactly - there are lots of people who blab on about training and nutrition plans yet have never once even worked with clients one to one, get working on the coal face

bubbleking

can someone explain to me what the difference in these courses and the NSCA CSCS (certified strength and conditioning specialist) is please?

eskimo

Cheers Transform for taking the time to reply with that advice and info! Much appreciated! Coz god knows I've not much idea what I'm doing and need all the help I can get at the mo!

I'm wondering now about my questions, can anyone shed any light on them? I know they are possibly "stupid" questions, but that just shows you how confused I am about it all...

.....a few questions about the NCEHS course at the NTC which I'd really appreciate some help with.

I'm a little confused about this particular course, how it compares to other similar courses and the different qualifications available.

On completion of the NCEHS, what is the graduate qualified to do exactly?

Also, I notice there are Fitness Instructor courses and there are Personal Trainer courses available to study in different colleges. Am I right in saying the NCEHS qualifies you as a fully-trained personal trainer AND a fully qualified fitness instructor?

The NCEHS course is 11 hours per week for 18 weeks. However, the NCEF course at the Portobello Institute is Full time for 9 months. Clearly this NCEF course is far more detailed, so would it be the better course to go with?

Or rather than qualification levels, is it more about what you can get insured to work as based on your particular qualification?

Finally, I get the impression from certain posts in this thread that the ISSA is really the ultimate international fitness qualification to have - am I right in thinking this? And if so, would I be better studying for an ISSA qualification rather than the NTC or NCEF qualification?

wackser

eskimo wrote: »

Cheers Transform for taking the time to reply with that advice and info! Much appreciated! Coz god knows I've not much idea what I'm doing and need all the help I can get at the mo!

I'm wondering now about my questions, can anyone shed any light on them? I know they are possibly "stupid" questions, but that just shows you how confused I am about it all...

.....a few questions about the NCEHS course at the NTC which I'd really appreciate some help with.

I'm a little confused about this particular course, how it compares to other similar courses and the different qualifications available.

On completion of the NCEHS, what is the graduate qualified to do exactly?

Also, I notice there are Fitness Instructor courses and there are Personal Trainer courses available to study in different colleges. Am I right in saying the NCEHS qualifies you as a fully-trained personal trainer AND a fully qualified fitness instructor?

The NCEHS course is 11 hours per week for 18 weeks. However, the NCEF course at the Portobello Institute is Full time for 9 months. Clearly this NCEF course is far more detailed, so would it be the better course to go with?

Or rather than qualification levels, is it more about what you can get insured to work as based on your particular qualification?

Finally, I get the impression from certain posts in this thread that the ISSA is really the ultimate international fitness qualification to have - am I right in thinking this? And if so, would I be better studying for an ISSA qualification rather than the NTC or NCEF qualification?

Hi Eskimo,

The NTC course is the only truly internationally recognised personal trainer qualification available in Ireland. It is accredited by the EHFA (www.ehfa.eu) at European Qualification Framework (EQF) Level 4 (Advanced Fitness Instructor). The standard has been agreed collectively by the EHFA which represents the fitness industry (training providers, fitness centres, representative bodies etc.). Represented at, and contributing to, this agreed standard for the Irish industry were the Irish Sports Council, NCEF, NTC, ILAM etc., however the only organisation to successfully complete the accreditation process at EQF Level 4 in Ireland so far is NTC. Some of the ITs in Ireland have successfully achieved accreditation at EQF Level 3 (Fitness Instructor).

ILAM launched REPS Ireland in August (www.repsireland.ie) and the only personal trainer qualification which meets the industry agreed standards for this independent register, which is affiliated with all other worldwide official registers through its membership of ICREPS (www.icreps.org), is the NTC course. As mentioned in some other posts the Continuing Professional Development requirement is now run and overseen by REPS Ireland. The NTC cert is valid for life and has no CPD requirement itself.

You can verify all this information by going to the various links above.

Hope this helps you.

odin_ie

So does that mean that the NCEF is a load of cac?

wackser

odin_ie wrote: »

So does that mean that the NCEF is a load of cac?

No - not at all.

The NCEF is a reputable course widely accepted in the industry and accedited by UL.

It costs €500 more than the NTC course, does not include personal training, has not yet gone through the accreditation process agreed by the industry and it's graduates can not join the only independent register in Ireland (REPS Ireland).

That said it is not yet at all certain how neccessary membership of REPS Ireland will be in the future, but in other countries where similar schemes have been adopted (Australia, Britain and New Zealand) it has become essential to get work in the industry.

In summary either NTC or NCEF will do the trick for anyone wanting to work in the industry in Ireland.

odin_ie

But by the looks of things the NTC course is better value for money!!! Pity I can't go to Dublin or Cork!!

odin_ie

According to the following LINK, the NCEF Certificate in Exercise and Health Fitness has become accredited by EHFA. The NCEF CEFH is also place at Level 3 on the EQF, the NTC is also a Level 3, bar the personal trainer stuff, which is a Level 4 according to THIS DOCUMENT.

Also the NTC is now offering a National Qualification in Exercise, Health Studies and Personal Training Conversion / Upgrade, LINK.

This course has been developed by the NTC Educational Committee to provide current health fitness instructors with the opportunity to upgrade their existing knowledge and competencies and to facilitate them in achieving the EQF Level 4 Advanced Fitness Instructor / Personal Trainer qualification. Instructors and Personal Trainers who have achieved EQF Level 4 will automatically be eligible to join the new National Register with REPS Ireland.

So for those that want to get the Reps Ireland recognition and get a Personal Trainer qualification having done the NCEF Course, it will cost €495.

However now that the NCEF CEFH has gotten recognition from EHFA, I have a feeling Reps Ireland will recognise them soon enough too.

muscleman

Hi there,
Maybe someone can answer a question about the EHFA. The last time I visited their site the EHFA only accredited about six training providers - five of which were irish! If this is a pan-european body (which I know it is) why haven't the top UK, French etc. providers signed up to their accreditation process. If any UK trainers have could you post the link as I am looking at attending a UK course but none mention the EHFA and I am questioning its strength in accreditation. I appreciate any replies.

Zamboni

odin_ie wrote: »

So for those that want to get the Reps Ireland recognition and get a Personal Trainer qualification having done the NCEF Course, it will cost €495.

However now that the NCEF CEFH has gotten recognition from EHFA, I have a feeling Reps Ireland will recognise them soon enough too.

Hold on.

Ignore any 'reps' system in place in Ireland. They are all nonsense.
Each course provider has their own and they are Basically a way of them to make money by taking gullible graduates for their hard earned.
There is no independent reps system in Ireland that is run by a not for profit.
ILAM has plans to build a reps system which would at the very least be both independent and non profit orientated but as it is ILAM it will take years before it is running properly.

wackser

Zamboni wrote: »

Hold on.

Ignore any 'reps' system in place in Ireland. They are all nonsense.
Each course provider has their own and they are Basically a way of them to make money by taking gullible graduates for their hard earned.
There is no independent reps system in Ireland that is run by a not for profit.
ILAM has plans to build a reps system which would at the very least be both independent and non profit orientated but as it is ILAM it will take years before it is running properly.

ILAM do run REPS Ireland. See www.repsireland.ie

It is independent and not for profit.

Zamboni

wackser wrote: »

ILAM do run REPS Ireland. See www.repsireland.ie

I am well aware of the ILAM website thank you.
As I said, ILAM has plans to build a reps system.
If you look at your link you will see it has little content and is a work in progress.
To be honest I would question how appropriate it is for ILAM to run a reps but as there is no other alternative it will have to do.

wackser wrote: »

It is independent and not for profit.

I know. I already said that??