Mayweather v Pacquiao

mits2006

Pacquiao is just after destroying a legend in dela hoya(granted a below par del a hoya)
The talk straight after the fight is hatton is next which is a joke.The hatton pacquiao fight if it did happen would be a totally onesided massacre,surely the biggest fight of the decade would have to be mayweather pacquiao and hatton is a warm up,fingers crossed.Mayweather can not be considered a legend if he retires after beating an ordinary fighter like hatton.Pacquiao will beat hatton then hopefully give the public the fight of the decade.ALL HAIL THE PACMAN

dardoz

What a performance! Pacman truly is legendary. His speed is just rediculous, not just with his hands, but his footwork....

joepenguin

Pacquaio-Hatton is probably the best fight out there at the minute, of course it should happen.Cant see it being a one sided massacre either way. A clear winner maybe but nothing like last night. Hatton would be in his prime at his best weight.

jamescumm

I think a Manny-Hatton bout would be a classic. Two all action fighters, Pacman would probably win due to his much higher skill level and speed. It was a great performance last night, although DLH was a shadow of his former self. Hats off to Manny for fighting at 3 different weights within a year, he's an unbelievable athlete.

eagle eye

mits2006 wrote: »

Pacquiao is just after destroying a legend in dela hoya(granted a below par del a hoya)
The talk straight after the fight is hatton is next which is a joke.The hatton pacquiao fight if it did happen would be a totally onesided massacre,surely the biggest fight of the decade would have to be mayweather pacquiao and hatton is a warm up,fingers crossed.Mayweather can not be considered a legend if he retires after beating an ordinary fighter like hatton.Pacquiao will beat hatton then hopefully give the public the fight of the decade.ALL HAIL THE PACMAN

This bit just irks me on so many levels.

1. Hatton is no ordinary fighter. He is a class act.

2. Mayweather never ducked anyone. He fought and beat the best.

As far as a Mayweather Pacquaio fight is concerned, its all about money again and also I don't think that Manny would have any chance against Mayweather.

cowzerp

eagle eye wrote: »

This bit just irks me on so many levels.

1. Hatton is no ordinary fighter. He is a class act.

2. Mayweather never ducked anyone. He fought and beat the best.

As far as a Mayweather Pacquaio fight is concerned, its all about money again and also I don't think that Manny would have any chance against Mayweather.

Look im a big Mayweather fan but he has not ducked any fighter but he has not fought the best out there either, margarito, cotto, even cintron would be all options and there is many more in and around his division.

also manny would be a challenge and would not be an easy win either-this has to happen, either next or after he beats poor old ricky up..

mits2006

cowzerp wrote: »

Look im a big Mayweather fan but he has not ducked any fighter but he has not fought the best out there either, margarito, cotto, even cintron would be all options and there is many more in and around his division.

also manny would be a challenge and would not be an easy win either-this has to happen, either next or after he beats poor old ricky up..

A++++++

efb

mits2006 wrote: »

A++++++

A+1

eagle eye

cowzerp wrote: »

Look im a big Mayweather fan but he has not ducked any fighter but he has not fought the best out there either, margarito, cotto, even cintron would be all options and there is many more in and around his division.

also manny would be a challenge and would not be an easy win either-this has to happen, either next or after he beats poor old ricky up..

Ok, you mention margarito, cotto and cintron but they only came to the top as Floyd was retiring. He had actually retired iirc and then took the offer from DLH.
The thing about De La Hoya fighting Manny is that De La Hoya potentially makes a lot more money by losing that fight than by winning it.

What does it prove if he had beat Manny, that he was too big for him and all that garb.
Manny beats DLH and now we have everyone screaming for a Mayweather vs Manny and we all know who would promote that fight.
And of course theres the Manny vs Ricky Hatton one as well and I wonder who promotes that. I think we all know DLH does both.

So basically I don't believe for one second that De La Hoya was ever going to beat Manny. The fight was a sham, hate to say that as I love boxing but thats exactly what it was.

conceited

Couldn't of said it better myself eagle eye !

T-K-O

eagle eye wrote: »

Ok, you mention margarito, cotto and cintron but they only came to the top as Floyd was retiring. He had actually retired iirc and then took the offer from DLH.
The thing about De La Hoya fighting Manny is that De La Hoya potentially makes a lot more money by losing that fight than by winning it.

What does it prove if he had beat Manny, that he was too big for him and all that garb.
Manny beats DLH and now we have everyone screaming for a Mayweather vs Manny and we all know who would promote that fight.
And of course theres the Manny vs Ricky Hatton one as well and I wonder who promotes that. I think we all know DLH does both.

So basically I don't believe for one second that De La Hoya was ever going to beat Manny. The fight was a sham, hate to say that as I love boxing but thats exactly what it was.

If Manny fought Mayweather, Dela would have nothing to do with it - Arum and Mayweather would promote the fight - FACT.

This is the most ridiculous conspiracy theory I have ever read.

Dela was embarrassed in there, no boxer with his record would do that. If he was to throw the fight he sure as hell wouldn't get battered for 8 rounds like he did, why not make it more competitive and fade after 6 ?

It was clear as day Dela got old [older] over night due to his age and the weight drain.

Victor McDade

eagle eye wrote: »

This bit just irks me on so many levels.

1. Hatton is no ordinary fighter. He is a class act.

2. Mayweather never ducked anyone. He fought and beat the best.

As far as a Mayweather Pacquaio fight is concerned, its all about money again and also I don't think that Manny would have any chance against Mayweather.

I agree with all of that. Mayweather beat everyone and would probably beat Pacquaio, he has nothing to prove.
Hatton is class and it will be a close fight if it happens

T-K-O

Mayweather beat everyone, are you guys crazy he beat NO ONE at 147

Victor McDade

? Didnt he beat Hatton at 147?

T-K-O

savemejebas wrote: »

? Didnt he beat Hatton at 147?

The dog in the street knows Hatton is a light welter and not a welter. Hatton has been awful in all of his welter fights.

Victor McDade

Fair enough, but Mayweather started at 130 and worked his way up, he'd have beaten Hatton at any weight imo

T-K-O

Yes he did work his way up - but it seems to be said that he beat all comers, this is simply not true.

Yes, I think he is the better fighter compared to Hatton, but Hatton is one of those dudes that cannot move up in weight - every time he moves up he looks a shadow of the guy at light welter.

Hatton V Mayweather at that weight would have been a much closer fight.

walshb

All I ask that if we were to judge how PBF-Pac would pan out, then we have to take Manny's win over Oscar in absolute context. He was very very good; but he beat an absolute useless man, a man who IMO was suffering terribly from 'something'
This was not even an over the hill Oscar; something more has to explain his
performance.

PBF is retired; but no version of PBF would perform like Oscar did. To me, that was simply a 'one off' and very strange occurrence!

T-K-O

I would agree that we need to take the Oscar fight out of the equation.
But Manny is a beast who has the speed to give PBF all he can handle. Manny can also take a shot. Before he retired PBF said he could make light welter maybe he should prove it.

The dela situation is not difficult to explain, he is 35 years old fighting at a weight he hasnt made in 7/8 years against a guy who is at the peak of his powers and l4l number one.

Oscar is my favorite fighter but I have to accept on Sat night that is is simply past, way past his best.:(

walshb

TKO, I am willing to give him a pass and I posted
a lengthy reply in trying to see what actually happened.
I do not believe it is JUST a case of Oscar
being past his best and Manny being brilliant.
Something serious happened with Oscar.
Maybe we will never get to know.

I am simply
viewing this from how he behaved in the ring, his
manner, movements, reactions etc etc. It was
NOT just him being past it. I think a serious problem
was affecting him.

Him only gaining 2 lbs in 26-28 hrs is
really really worrying and totally unreasonable
and unusual, and UNHEARD of I would imagine!
I can bet too that HOP and Mosley were thinking the same thing
when they were watching it. 'Something is wrong here, and it's not
just Oscar having an off day.'

T-K-O

That maybe so - It was sad night for me personally. My house was packed at 4 in the morning with dudes who didn't have a clue about boxing.

The guy that lives in my house recently saw Pac V Diaz and on that basis was telling me Pac would slaughter Dela, to which I replied No way Dela is the bigger guy a class act he will easily dispatch Manny - how wrong was I.

Ive seen pics on line of the fight and in between rounds people in the crowd behind delas corner had this look of shock on their faces.

Not putting on weight the night before was strange - I would say he destroyed himself making the weight, I would also say he felt every punch from Manny - re-watched R1 he felt Mannys shots from the first bell.

35 and weight drained explains a hell of alot for me.

T-K-O

BTW what happen to Dela is what I expect to happen to B-Hop every time he takes on a big fight these days, but that dude is a freak and also fights at a comfortable weight.

walshb

As it stands, the weight drain and failure to put on additional weight is all we can go on
This combined not only affected him, it seriously hampered his
whole body. His vision, balance, distancing etc etc. I have watched his
movement and manner in the ring and it was all over the place

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

Not putting on weight the night before was strange - I would say he destroyed himself making the weight, I would also say he felt every punch from Manny - re-watched R1 he felt Mannys shots from the first bell.

Yes, maybe he did; but was it because those shots were welterweight shots or was it because Oscar was in distress. I say the latter.

Pac, no matter what way you slice it and dice it, is a blown up feather and
Oscar has tasted far heavier shots from far heavier hitters.

So, IMO, it's a case of decent shots hitting a distressed and HURT man.
This is what compounded Oscar's problems

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

Yes, maybe he did; but was it because those shots were welterweight shots or was it because Oscar was in distress. I say the latter.

Pac, no matter what way you slice it and dice it, is a blown up feather and
Oscar has tasted far heavier shots from far heavier hitters.

So, IMO, it's a case of decent shots hitting a distressed and HURT man.
This is what compounded Oscar's problems

Yes he has taken harder shots but as I keep saying he wasnt on the tic tac diet for those fights.

And Manny's shots are more than decent he has stopped guys that were considered unstoppable.

walshb

So we agree, it was down to the tic tac diet and the shots COMBINED.

BTW, Pac can hit, but at 140-147 he is far from a heavy hitter!

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

So we agree, it was down to the tic tac diet and the shots COMBINED.

BTW, Pac can hit, but at 140-147 he is far from a heavy hitter!

I'll tell you what ask Ricky Hatton after they fight.

akindoc

It's been a sad year for me. RJJ was COMPLETELY SHOT against Calzaghe. I watched that fight with my mouth open. Calzaghe standing in front of Roy and Roy unable to simply let his hands go.

And then we had DLH on Saturday, who looked even worse than Roy looked.

Sad to see but thats boxing.

death1234567

T-K-O wrote: »

Hatton has been awful in all of his welter fights.

Ever think that there's a reason for that? Fatton is only good when he's bigger and stronger than the guy he's fighting. He has limited skill and speed and just relies on being a brawler and "out-stronging" his opponent. Fatton lost to Callazo despite what the records say. Pacman would maul him. Pacman - Mayweather would be great but the size difference would be a real concern. Poor little Manny might get hurt .

walshb

death1234567 wrote: »

Ever think that there's a reason for that? Fatton is only good when he's bigger and stronger than the guy he's fighting. He has limited skill and speed and just relies on being a brawler and "out-stronging" his opponent. Fatton lost to Callazo despite what the records say. Pacman would maul him. Pacman - Mayweather would be great but the size difference would be a real concern. Poor little Manny might get hurt .

Hmm, Hatton only is good when he is bigger and stronger, yet Pac mauls him?

Pac is going to be the smaller man when they meet and Should not be as physically strong.

So, this bout is going the distance at least and if Hatton is half as good as what the
media say, that SHOULD be enough to overwhelm Pac.

I cannot get away from the issue that PAC is now competing in
the 140-147 range. This is ludicrous, yet he is
doing it; not because he is brilliant (brilliant 122-130); but because
boxing is so declining! Yes, he is still a threat at 140-147; but really, there should be natural men out there to be too good and strong!

T-K-O

death1234567 wrote: »

Ever think that there's a reason for that? Fatton is only good when he's bigger and stronger than the guy he's fighting. He has limited skill and speed and just relies on being a brawler and "out-stronging" his opponent. Fatton lost to Callazo despite what the records say. Pacman would maul him. Pacman - Mayweather would be great but the size difference would be a real concern. Poor little Manny might get hurt .

Poor little Manny - people make out little Manny is straight out of Land of the Giants he aint that small.

Hatton is just one of those guys that cannot fight outside his fighting weight.
You make out as if he fights the smaller dude every time at light welter. He dominates that division regardless.

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

Hmm, Hatton only is good when he is bigger and stronger, yet Pac mauls him?

Pac is going to be the smaller man when they meet and Should not be as physically strong.

So, this bout is going the distance at least and if Hatton is half as good as what the
media say, that SHOULD be enough to overwhelm Pac.

I cannot get away from the issue that PAC is now competing in
the 140-147 range. This is ludicrous, yet he is
doing it; not because he is brilliant (brilliant 122-130); but because
boxing is so declining! Yes, he is still a threat at 140-147; but really, there should be natural men out there to be too good and strong!

I hear ya Walsh but PAC didnt look that small at 147 not as small as people make out. Now he shouldn't fight there again, even if Money comes back he should have the balls to fight Manny at 140.

I could Manny beating Hatton - and that would make him the best 140 in the world. This guy is an animal and has been even before last Saturday.

megadodge

walshb wrote: »

I cannot get away from the issue that PAC is now competing in
the 140-147 range. This is ludicrous, yet he is
doing it; not because he is brilliant (brilliant 122-130); but because
boxing is so declining! Yes, he is still a threat at 140-147; but really, there should be natural men out there to be too good and strong!

Strongly disagree.

This is one of my pet hates, this neverending "boxing is worse now than ever before" that has been doing the rounds for as far back as I can remember.

Even when I was a kid (a long time ago) it was the same - and this was the time of Ali, Duran, leonard, Hagler, etc. The rose-tinted brigade harping on about how poor modern boxers were compared to the old days.

The best boxing book I've read is 'In this Corner', which interviewed 40 ex-world champs. Brilliant read, but as usual, there were a whole load of them saying "boxers nowadays aren't as good as they were in my day" - but these interviews were done in the 1960's !!

I also came across a Ring magazine from the 1950's (the oft referred Golden Era of boxing) and sure enough there was an article criticizing the then modern boxers saying they weren't a patch on the 1920's boxers !!

I agree that Pacquiaou being so small naturally shouldn't be a force at 147 and I believe Margarito, Cotto and Williams would all beat him comfortably, as they should. But don't forget Henry Armstrong won the welter title and made a few defences while weighing under the lightweight limit, yet you don't hear the historians making that out to be because the welters were so poor.

Manny took a fight he knew (others didn't) he had a good chance of winning for enormous money and it worked out. It doesn't mean boxing is doomed. On the contrary I don't think boxing at the very top level has ever been so widespread throughout the world, thankfully no longer dominated by the Yanks and occasional Central American.

P.S. I think Pacman would have beaten Henry Armstrong on points - clearly!!

walshb

megadodge wrote: »

Strongly disagree.

This is one of my pet hates, this neverending "boxing is worse now than ever before" that has been doing the rounds for as far back as I can remember.

Even when I was a kid (a long time ago) it was the same - and this was the time of Ali, Duran, leonard, Hagler, etc. The rose-tinted brigade harping on about how poor modern boxers were compared to the old days.

The best boxing book I've read is 'In this Corner', which interviewed 40 ex-world champs. Brilliant read, but as usual, there were a whole load of them saying "boxers nowadays aren't as good as they were in my day" - but these interviews were done in the 1960's !!

I also came across a Ring magazine from the 1950's (the oft referred Golden Era of boxing) and sure enough there was an article criticizing the then modern boxers saying they weren't a patch on the 1920's boxers !!

I agree that Pacquiaou being so small naturally shouldn't be a force at 147 and I believe Margarito, Cotto and Williams would all beat him comfortably, as they should. But don't forget Henry Armstrong won the welter title and made a few defences while weighing under the lightweight limit, yet you don't hear the historians making that out to be because the welters were so poor.

Manny took a fight he knew (others didn't) he had a good chance of winning for enormous money and it worked out. It doesn't mean boxing is doomed. On the contrary I don't think boxing at the very top level has ever been so widespread throughout the world, thankfully no longer dominated by the Yanks and occasional Central American.

P.S. I think Pacman would have beaten Henry Armstrong on points - clearly!!

Ok, fair enough, lets see him in against these men and then all will be settled.
I too am like you and HATE the way the old timers never seem to
give credit to the modern fighters; but you have to see that NOW, we are at
a junction where it is getting very hard to argue our point!

Look, if these fights are being hyped and pushed as the BEST we have, then YES, we
are in trouble here, as regards high standards; because no matter what way you slice it and dice it, Manny is NOT a true 140-147 man; yet he meets and beats an ILL
Oscar, and some, not you necessarily, think this is the BEST of the best???

Pac beat Henry? Wow!:rolleyes: BTW, that is not me dissing the 'modern' fighter, because
I believe that Leonard, Hearns, Curry, Honey, Oscar, Mosley, Duran to name a few, all beat
Henry at 147.

Should Pac meet and beat Cotto or Margarito for example, then I will start
to assess him as a 147 lb fighter.

If I can use one analogy to explain my position.

PBF I rate as a man who would be a great fighter in ANY era between 130-140 lbs.
However, I do not rate him as being great or even all that competitive at 147 lbs in all eras.
The only era he was competitive at 147, was todays. That says it all. Now, that is not
dissing PBF at all; it simply means that he is NOT a true or great 147 lb fighter and
would not have been competitive in the 80's, 70's 60's 50's etc etc.

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

I hear ya Walsh but PAC didnt look that small at 147 not as small as people make out. Now he shouldn't fight there again, even if Money comes back he should have the balls to fight Manny at 140.

I could Manny beating Hatton - and that would make him the best 140 in the world. This guy is an animal and has been even before last Saturday.

No arguments here T-K-O.

I never said he wasn't an animal. He sure is, but at the weights I mentioned. He has not yet PROVEN to be a force or animal at 140-147. The jury is still out and beating Hatton IMO
will not cement his legacy at 140. Hatton is past it and is IMO not GREAT,. He was one that I admit, I overrated completely! Going on hype and media, Hatton should still win; after all, he is a true 140lb 'great.'

megadodge

I agree with most of what you said there Walshb. I don't regard Manny as a welter at all.

However, even though he didn't exactly beat the real dangers at welter (the aforementioned trio) PBF would most definitely be competitive with the majority of welters. Whether he beats them or not is another question, which would be easier to answer if he had fought that trio, but he didn't...

In relation to Armstrong / Pacman, if you ever get to see videos of Armstrong he was very basic. He just kept coming forward and throwing not particularly fast single punch after single punch. Slow enough feet, average defence, no combinations. He had very good power, but so does Pacman who is way, way faster, especially feet. This would enable him to get in and out with hard fast combinations and consistently beat Armstrong to the punch and get away.

Pacman in lots of ways reminds me of Duran. People see him as an aggresive slugger, when in fact he's actually quite hard to hit cleanly and is way smarter than given credit for. I can't see him losing to Armstrong.

walshb

I was never overly impressed with Henry who could be very predictable. He was ultra tough, durable, major stamina, good power and a whirlwind who would be OTT
for Manny.

PBF is simply not near good enough to be competitive V Hearns, Leonard, SRR, Griffith, Rodriguez, Gavilan, Curry and even names like Starling and Blocker and Breland. He's just too small; sure, he could survive, but I don't ever see him commanding the fight or being a major WIN threat in any bout against the best welters.

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

No arguments here T-K-O.

I never said he wasn't an animal. He sure is, but at the weights I mentioned. He has not yet PROVEN to be a force or animal at 140-147. The jury is still out and beating Hatton IMO
will not cement his legacy at 140. Hatton is past it and is IMO not GREAT,. He was one that I admit, I overrated completely! Going on hype and media, Hatton should still win; after all, he is a true 140lb 'great.'

If PAC did beat Hatton at 140 that would make him the man at the weight - yes Hatton is on the decline but still the best light welter in the world.

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

If PAC did beat Hatton at 140 that would make him the man at the weight - yes Hatton is on the decline but still the best light welter in the world.

Yes, Hatton seems to be the best and beating Hatton seems that then Pac is the best. Does this still say all that much as regards legacy and comparison to other great 140 lb men? Hatton is over the hill and was never an all time great at 140. He was very good, but a notch below a lot of the great 140 lb men of RECENT times, not old timers here Mega:D

All it says to me is that Pac is better than Hatton and is possibly the planets best 140 lb man; but all
in this 'instance of time.' Bravo Pac man; but don't expect me to then automatically
rate you as an all time great 140 lb man.

BTW, fellas, though it may seem that I am dissing Pac; I so am not. He is a fantastic
fighter; just has yet to show if he is fantastic at 140 and above; even 135 is far from
fantastic

megadodge

I was never overly impressed with Henry who could be very predictable. He was ultra tough, durable, major stamina, good power and a whirlwind

I agree with them all except the whirlwind bit.

If I had to put money on it I would have no problem betting the Pac throws more punches per round than Armstrong. This "non-stop punching machine" is one of the many myths in boxing that people need to check out. Just watch him fight. There's plenty of him on Youtube. I remember one poster somewhere saying Armstrong threw over 300 punches a round !! Needless to say I strongly suspect he has never seen him fight

So when you look at it, Armstrong is facing an opponent way faster than him, who throws very hard punches in combinations and is in and out by way of feet way faster than his, an opponent who throws more punches than him and won't tire, who has a very good chin (the 2 early losses in his career can definitely be put down to weight) and is quite smart. Allied to all this he's a bloody southpaw, which were almost non-existant in those days !! IMO it's fairly straight-forward.

walshb

The whirlwind is OTT no doubt, but his pressure and relentless pressing and strength are there to see for all. He was also very cute and will not be all that phased by the Pac's jack russell style approach. I see this fight being competitive early, but mid to late rds; Henry's relentless pursuits pay dividends.

T-K-O

walshb wrote: »

Yes, Hatton seems to be the best and beating Hatton seems that then Pac is the best. Does this still say all that much as regards legacy and comparison to other great 140 lb men? Hatton is over the hill and was never an all time great at 140. He was very good, but a notch below a lot of the great 140 lb men of RECENT times, not old timers here Mega:D

All it says to me is that Pac is better than Hatton and is possibly the planets best 140 lb man; but all
in this 'instance of time.' Bravo Pac man; but don't expect me to then automatically
rate you as an all time great 140 lb man.

BTW, fellas, though it may seem that I am dissing Pac; I so am not. He is a fantastic
fighter; just has yet to show if he is fantastic at 140 and above; even 135 is far from
fantastic

I'm not saying he would be an all timer at 140 but he would be the best of his time and that is all anyone can do. Does that make him a great fighter yes, does it make him an elite 140 fighter, well that is an different question entirely.

You point of view can be applied to so many fighters that move up through the weights. For example Floyd..

walshb

T-K-O wrote: »

I'm not saying he would be an all timer at 140 but he would be the best of his time and that is all anyone can do. Does that make him a great fighter yes, does it make him an elite 140 fighter, well that is an different question entirely.

You point of view can be applied to so many fighters that move up through the weights. For example Floyd..

I agree, it does make him the best of this time; but doesn't that not make you a little
uneasy and feeling a bit let down. It does to me. Can't help that really.

richie rich08

mits2006 wrote: »

Mayweather can not be considered a legend if he retires after beating an ordinary fighter like hatton.

Thats ridiclous hatton is no ordinary fighter,
ive followed ricky his whole career and he is a trually amazing fighter.
Future HOF but wouldnt consider him and ATG though,
he got off lightly in a few fights in his career

T-K-O wrote: »

If Manny fought Mayweather, Dela would have nothing to do with it - Arum and Mayweather would promote the fight - FACT.

There is alot of talk about the fight between these two and floyd has said he is extremely interested in fighting manny.
But Bob Arum and floyd mayweather have a very bad relationship and they extremely dislike one another.
As always with Floyd money is going to be an issue and Bob Arum highly rates manny (as he should) and will try give the bigger pot to his fighter, which will be the reason this fight wont happen if talks to begin on it

T-K-O wrote: »

The dog in the street knows Hatton is a light welter and not a welter. Hatton has been awful in all of his welter fights.

What exactly does that say about hatton then,
back to my reference he is a future HOF but thats it (if he even gets it)
he cant fight really anywhere other light welter and they blamed his loss to floyd on the fact he has to move up.
A true boxing legend can move up and down weights and fight the best sure floyd started his career at 130 and fought de la hoya at 154!!
And Manny started his career at 107!!! moved up to destroy everyone in the 130s and then humilated Oscar at 145!!
These are two real Boxing legends who need to battle it out!!

Forget about hatton pacman, pac would eat him alive at any weight divison he is in a class of his own.
Mayweather and Pacquiao at 130 would Explosive!!
Both Fighters being so dominating in that divison in the past it would have to happen!
Floyd had so much speed and also power in the 130s that i could see him outbox pac alnight if they fought!!
Saying that it could be at any weight and floyd would still beat Pac

Podge2k7

conceited wrote: »

Couldn't of said it better myself eagle eye !

+1

joepenguin

Manny isnt a 147 fight and he knows it. Remember after the Diaz fight he said he would take on Hatton no problems but said No way!!! to a fight with Cotto. De La Hoya challenged him and he was right to take it. He's not a force at 147 as things stand he's not all that proven at 135.
The fights out there for him are Hatton, JMM, and PBF. I hope JMM gets another craic at him as I think he won last time out.