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Dual Channel Guitar Amp?

  • 29-11-2008 11:43am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭


    Hey guys, I'm looking for a decent Guitar amp around 30-60w that has two channels designed to be used at the same time. Most amps have a clean & a distorted channel bit I'm after two channels that do both clean and distorted.

    This is for teaching so pupil and teacher can both be plugged in at the same time. Would also be nice to have reverb. Any ideas? I can't find anything suitable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭spoonbadger


    Strings.ie wrote: »
    Hey guys, I'm looking for a decent Guitar amp around 30-60w that has two channels designed to be used at the same time. Most amps have a clean & a distorted channel bit I'm after two channels that do both clean and distorted.

    This is for teaching so pupil and teacher can both be plugged in at the same time. Would also be nice to have reverb. Any ideas? I can't find anything suitable.
    Sounds to me like you need an oldschool marshall or fender....

    http://www.ceriatone.com/productSubPages/BSJTM45/BSJTM45.htm
    http://www.ceriatone.com/productSubPages/BSPlexi50Lead/BSPlexi50.htm
    http://www.ceriatone.com/productSubPages/AC5E7BandMaster/AC5E7BandMaster.htm

    These are ceriatone copies of 2 old marshalls and a fender, respectively. They Each have to 2 channels with seperate inputs, so you could run two guitars into them at once. Dont worry too much about the whole "copy" thing, ceriatone are better than any modern fender or marshall you could buy, and at half the price too!!.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    Normal and bright channels on old amps are voiced completely differently. I would be hesistant to suggest that it would be suitable - I seriously doubt it tbh. You'd be as well off just using a splitter of some kind into a single jack input amp. Better yet, just get a switching pedal, unless you need to be playing at the same time. If you do... have you thought about just getting two amps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Strings.ie


    Thanks for the suggestions guys. Its for a guitar teacher so the requirement is something compact rather than two amps or submixers he has to carry around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    2 micro cubes.
    Sorted.
    Or is there a reason 60 watts is needed for teaching? Seems a bit excessive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Strings.ie


    2 micro cubes.
    Sorted.
    Or is there a reason 60 watts is needed for teaching? Seems a bit excessive.

    Yeah he is currently going around with two 10w amps but wants just one to carry around and something with a bit more meat on the bone so a 30w would be ideal. It is looking like there isn't much available though :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Two small & cheap amps seems like the simplest and most obvious solution.

    From your description, you seem to be looking for an amp with two completely separate signal paths. I can't think of any amps like that (im sure there are some) but there are plenty of amps that have a 'jam along' line-input. You could use a POD or similar into the line-in to give two completely separate signal paths.

    You havent even mentioned budget though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭Strings.ie


    Two small & cheap amps seems like the simplest and most obvious solution.

    From your description, you seem to be looking for an amp with two completely separate signal paths. I can't think of any amps like that (im sure there are some) but there are plenty of amps that have a 'jam along' line-input. You could use a POD or similar into the line-in to give two completely separate signal paths.

    You havent even mentioned budget though.

    2-300 euro. Can you get a pod or digi fx with dual channels for two users?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    Strings.ie wrote: »
    2-300 euro. Can you get a pod or digi fx with dual channels for two users?
    Pod X3 Pro has that, way over your budget though.

    Like I say, you could use a modelling amp with line-in (they are quite common), and have on user play through the amp as normal, and have the other user have their own sounds via some kind of Pod or similar (there are plenty of cheap modelling pedals). That way you've both got control over separate clean/dirty sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭Quattroste


    I'd suggest a Line6 pocket pod and a Roland cube 30. You should get both for under 300 but this might mean a second hand Cube 30. The Cube has built in effects that are decent enough and you can connect the pocket pod via the line in. That way you have effect on both inputs. It would work great for teaching.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,721 ✭✭✭✭CianRyan


    Tell the students to buy amps?
    Seems a vital part of playing elctric guitar like...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭Demeyes


    I suggest running 2 signals into a small mixer. Have 2 pedals/modelers for a bit of distortion. Then you can run this into a small monitor/pa setup. I would think you could get your hands on a tiny mixer, active monitor and pedals for that budget handily enough.
    This way you can control the individual volumes and even put a metronome or backing track through the system aswell. Also I can't think of any stand alone amps that will give you 2 dedicated channels with switchable distortion that wont mess up the 2 signals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,365 ✭✭✭spoonbadger


    Normal and bright channels on old amps are voiced completely differently. I would be hesistant to suggest that it would be suitable - I seriously doubt it tbh. You'd be as well off just using a splitter of some kind into a single jack input amp. Better yet, just get a switching pedal, unless you need to be playing at the same time. If you do... have you thought about just getting two amps?

    I realize they're voiced differently. That's kinda the point of the two channels. Thankfully, many guitars come with tone controls these days :P.

    Sorry, you do make a good point, but for teaching it doesnt need to be godlike tone. With some EQ/Tone-knob tweaking it wouldn't be bad at all, and this way the teacher-guy will benefit from getting a new amp for himself too!. Buying 2 cubes, or something similiar, wouldnt be a bad idea. But i'm guessing a professional guitar teacher isnt going to gain much from a new micro-cube, let alone two :o.

    EDIT: just saw the budget. Feel free to ignore my posts :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    I realize they're voiced differently. That's kinda the point of the two channels. Thankfully, many guitars come with tone controls these days :P.

    Sorry, you do make a good point, but for teaching it doesnt need to be godlike tone. With some EQ/Tone-knob tweaking it wouldn't be bad at all, and this way the teacher-guy will benefit from getting a new amp for himself too!

    Well, in a 1987 or 1959, for example, if you turn the tone knob all the way down on the guitar in the bright channel, both channels will sound around about equally dull. Even with an active EQ in your guitar, it'd be quite a feat to make the normal channel sound half as bright as the bright channel. It's just not really a solution to the problem the OP described.

    Seriously, he should just buy an A/B pedal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    What about a 2 into 1 1/4" splitter? Cost approx 2.50

    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=989


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Eoin Madsen


    What about a 2 into 1 1/4" splitter? Cost approx 2.50

    It wouldn't not work, but there would be some serious impedence problems, most likely leading to generally crappy sound.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭The Boarder Man


    What about a 2 into 1 1/4" splitter? Cost approx 2.50

    http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=989
    It wouldn't not work, but there would be some serious impedence problems, most likely leading to generally crappy sound.

    Also it would want to be 2 mono females to a single mono male. Not stereo as linked.


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