Gaa Academy building at DCU

lostexpectation

http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/gaa/2008/1126/1227699536228.html

an 10,000 seat indoor gaa stadium?

Marse

I was pretty sure that DCU was not in the Fingal area, why would they be applying to Fingal county council for planning permission. If they were planning a build on campus as the report states, they would need to apply to Dublin city council.

An Citeog

Marse wrote: »

I was pretty sure that DCU was not in the Fingal area, why would they be applying to Fingal county council for planning permission. If they were planning a build on campus as the report states, they would need to apply to Dublin city council.

That's the first thing that popped into my head when I read the article! I really don't see where you could fit a 10,000 seater stadium on campus either. That and I've no idea where they'd get the money from.

Maybe they should consider tearing up one of the pitches in St. Claires and replacing it with an artificial one, like the one Ballymun Kickhams have. DCU footballers and hurlers do the majority of their training under lights in Ballymun already, so it'd definitely make sense.

An Citeog

DCU plans cutting edge indoor facility

By Donnchadh Boyle

Thursday November 27 2008

A 10,000-seater, fully enclosed GAA stadium, equipped with cutting-edge technology, is just part of a bold new €15m development DCU authorities are looking to construct in St Clare's on Dublin's northside.

It is envisaged the centre -- which is subject to planning approval --will include a running track, transparent roof and technology that would place the centre as a world leader in the area of sports performance analysis.

"There is nothing else like what we are proposing in the world," said Prof Niall Moyna, who hopes to see the centre in operation in three years. "We'll be hoping to have multiple angle cameras and sensors in the floor to help measure performance."

Elsewhere, Laois County Board has secured a 25-acre site for development as a centre of excellence for just €10. Galmoy Mines will hand over the site -- which is near the hurling heartland of Rathdowney -- when the mine closes in 2010.

- Donnchadh Boyle

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/dcu-plans-cutting-edge-indoor-facility-1554642.html

They plan on putting it in St. Clares. I'm really not sure how vialble the idea is but seeing as I don't know the full facts, I can't really comment. Suffice to say, they'll find it very hard to get planning permission in the middle of a residential area.

Agus

DCU plan 10,000 capacity indoor stadium

27 November 2008


Dublin City University has applied to Fingal County Council for permission to develop a 10,000 capacity indoor GAA stadium at its Glasnevin campus.

College authorities are hopeful that the ambitious project will receive planning permission and be completed within the next three to five years, paving the way for the first ever competitive indoor inter-county football match to be staged.


Though enclosed, the pitch will still be grass-based thanks to a transparent roof and, according to former GAA president and DCU Academy committee member Peter Quinn, the only drawback to the structure will be the fact that the ceiling will be 35-40ft high.

That would be just about low enough to reach with a particularly hefty kick and would automatically rule it out as a venue for a competitive hurling fixture. Football, however, may be a different story.

"Clearly it mightn’t be appropriate for championship football but we would have said 10 years ago playing under floodlights wouldn’t be appropriate for championship.

"Now half of the country’s club championships are being played on Saturday nights under lights.

"We will just have to see how the game develops and how the facility develops but we will certainly have a facility that will be playable 365 days each year and 24 hours a day."

The DCU stadium would not be the first enclosed venue to host Gaelic games. Back in 1990 and 1991, All Star exhibition games involving the likes of Tyrone, Dublin and Tipperary were held in each code at the then newly-built Toronto Skydome’s astroturf surface.

Though the dimensions of the pitch will mirror those at Croke Park, the use of wind and rain machines, as well as multiple cameras, will mean that they will be able to mimic conditions at any ground in the country.

Agus

I see there is already a thread on this, please merge.

Yavvy

this would be awsome ! you could have top class hurling in the dead of winter !

An Citeog

Alany wrote: »

this would be awsome ! you could have top class hurling in the dead of winter !

Afraid not. According to the article,

Though enclosed, the pitch will still be grass-based thanks to a transparent roof and, according to former GAA president and DCU Academy committee member Peter Quinn, the only drawback to the structure will be the fact that the ceiling will be 35-40ft high.

That would be just about low enough to reach with a particularly hefty kick and would automatically rule it out as a venue for a competitive hurling fixture. Football, however, may be a different story.

Tbh, I'd prefer an artificial grass pitch like the one Ballymun Kickhams have. Cheaper and way more practical. They could build a little stand at the side aswell if they wanted!:D

Daysha

A running track AROUND a GAA pitch?! Surely that would be one of the playing fields in the world.

lostexpectation

this is just a training place an academy its not a full sized gaa pitch, i can't think of any indoor full sized football arenas

premierstone

Agus wrote: »

Though the dimensions of the pitch will mirror those at Croke Park

lostexpectation wrote: »

this is just a training place an academy its not a full sized gaa pitch, i can't think of any indoor full sized football arenas

No it will be a full sized pitch (if it gets the go-ahead)

baztard

Agus wrote: »

...the only drawback to the structure will be the fact that the ceiling will be 35-40ft high.

That would be just about low enough to reach with a particularly hefty kick and would automatically rule it out as a venue for a competitive hurling fixture. Football, however, may be a different story.

If DCU are going to spend €15m on this, surely this must be a great oppertunity to splash out an extra few euro to get a higher or retractable roof, so that competitive hurling can be played.

If DCU are strapped for cash, maybe a the GAA or a private investor might be able to fill the deficit.

It's a bit unfair on hurling in Ireland and especially in Dublin the way the pitch is currently planned.

Aside from that, the idea is great, fair play to DCU for playing a leading role in training and analysis concept of the pitch. It very rare in Ireland that we lead something new, as opposed to being 10 years behind the times.

Yavvy

agree ! needs a retractable roof for hurling !

mumhaabu

They should roof Croker I got soaked there several times this summer and I was in the stand! I will never forget Kerry V Galway for both the Rain that fell and the way Kerry responded to Michael Meehan.

Whatever about Kerry losing the All-Ireland I think it was the biggest disgrace ever that Michael Meehan of Galway did not get an All-Star his performance against Kerry touched a nerve within me to see the Lightning cracking overhead and the might of the two most talented teams in Ireland battling it out in hurricane like conditions.

Kerry then got complacent and burned out and after the multiple battles with Cork got defeated by both complacency and Pat O'Shea. I do not consider Tyrone worthy champions as they beat nothing only Kerry while Kerry fought tooth and nail to get to the final. I most certainly look forward to see the footballing genius of Michael Meehan again and along with Maurice Fitzgerald & Colm Cooper he is a true footballing legend and to deprive him of an Allstar was terrible. I hope he wins an All-Ireland medal in his career as if any player deserves it he does.

An Citeog

mumhaabu wrote: »

They should roof Croker I got soaked there several times this summer and I was in the stand! I will never forget Kerry V Galway for both the Rain that fell and the way Kerry responded to Michael Meehan.

Whatever about Kerry losing the All-Ireland I think it was the biggest disgrace ever that Michael Meehan of Galway did not get an All-Star his performance against Kerry touched a nerve within me to see the Lightning cracking overhead and the might of the two most talented teams in Ireland battling it out in hurricane like conditions.

Kerry then got complacent and burned out and after the multiple battles with Cork got defeated by both complacency and Pat O'Shea. I do not consider Tyrone worthy champions as they beat nothing only Kerry while Kerry fought tooth and nail to get to the final. I most certainly look forward to see the footballing genius of Michael Meehan again and along with Maurice Fitzgerald & Colm Cooper he is a true footballing legend and to deprive him of an Allstar was terrible. I hope he wins an All-Ireland medal in his career as if any player deserves it he does.

Can't agree with that at all. Tyrone were definitely worthy champions and I'd have Dublin and Cork ahead of Galway. As for Meehan, I was at the match and he was absolutely magnificent. He was definitely in the running for an all star and was unlucky. Hopefully he can kick on now and push for an all star again next year.

As for the retractable roof, it's not gonna happen. If it does go ahead, it's basically going to be an indoor athletics stadium with a pitch for gaelic football. They wouldn't be able to justify the increased expense to make it suitable for hurling.

lostexpectation

can somebody showed me an indoor arena with enough size for gaa ptich and 10,00 seats?

An Citeog

lostexpectation wrote: »

can somebody showed me an indoor arena with enough size for gaa ptich and 10,00 seats?

The Skydome in Toronto. Anyway, this is what the article says,

A 10,000-seater, fully enclosed GAA stadium, equipped with cutting-edge technology, is just part of a bold new €15m development DCU authorities are looking to construct in St Clare's on Dublin's northside.

It's a GAA stadium they're looking to build, not a training facility. What they're loooking for is a full sized GAA pitch with a running track around it (which would be really weird and bigger than 400m).

lostexpectation

the skydome cost 600 million and uses 50 thousands seats 30,000 in soccer arrangement

its the fully enclosed stadium with only 10,000 which confuses me.

they say there nothing else like in the world, seems to be true, anybody know the architects behind it

lostexpectation

any news on this