Definite Idea for a new sports drink - Help me.

I have an idea for a new sports drink. It's an innovative drink that is not over here yet. I need to talk to a Scientist/fitness person about making this drink. I have no background in Science, I'm a business graduate so that would be what I like to THINK i'm strong at.

I want to make samples. I know the ingredient profile. I want to try get this off the ground. Any ideas who I can talk to?

smashey

This might be better suited to the Entrepreneurial & Business Management forum. I can move it there if you like.

conZ

No help regarding the science bit, but there's a very interesting piece on the man who brought Red Bull to Europe (similar to a traditional drink in China he spotted) in January or February 2007 National Geographic.

The one with the coffee cup on the front, and 'Hooked' as the title. The article is about coffee and caffeine drinks.

dave80

I make my own sports drink, 30grams glucose, sea salt, caffeine, borocca in 500mls water

That's great Dave. This one is better. By far. And it's not really a supplement in the traditional sense like a protein/creatine sports drink. It contains 0 stimulants and is suitable for everyone.

Smashey I have a thread similar in the entrepreneurial section however I was hoping I may bump into a sports scientist/nutrition/dietician etc on here who may be able to advise me on who to speak to when making a drink. But thanks for the offer

smashey

Fair enough.

Gumbo

make some samples and start handing them out at gyms, football matches, sports events. basically get you drink/name out there.

just my opinion of course.

That's my plan. BUT I need to get to that stage first, I need to make RTD versions of it and start from there...that's why I am here, I need someone in the know to tell me what to do!!!

rubadub

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It's an innovative drink that is not over here yet. I know the ingredient profile.

If it is already out there and you know the ingredients why do you really need a "fitness" person, or even scientist. You say no stimulants etc, so I expect it is just a drink, i.e. no real issues with possibly banned substances. Might be more one for the drink or food forum, where people might have produced their own product.

Some here have contact with nutritionX people who brand (& manufacture?) supplements in Ireland.

Are you also certain it is not already out here, loads of stuff is.

Any info on the secret ingredient? I am guessing green tea.

Because I need to know who to contact to produce samples and source ingredients etc. I'm clueless at this bit.

100% positive this product is not out here. I want to take the product I found and enhance it and make it even better before I can bring it out here. That's my goal.

Roper

Deleted User wrote: »

Because I need to know who to contact to produce samples and source ingredients etc. I'm clueless at this bit.

And rather than open the phone book and contact any number of companies you chose an internet forum?

Thought you were going to open a physical therapy clinic? Wait a sec, are you CMOT Dibbler?*











*there's only so many people will get that.

Ok, what the hell?

Thomas_S_Hunterson

Deleted User wrote: »

Because I need to know who to contact to produce samples and source ingredients etc. I'm clueless at this bit.

100% positive this product is not out here. I want to take the product I found and enhance it and make it even better before I can bring it out here. That's my goal.

Send me the recipe and I'll produce samples...

BobbyOLeary

My God. I don't know which to be more worried about, the fact that I got Barry's joke or the fact that he made it.

When you say you know the ingredient profile what exactly do you mean? You know whats in it and in what quantities? You need a small bit more information than that to produce a drink (usually). There's plenty of small laboratory companies out there that would happily make up the samples you want. Better yet, talk to a biochemistry or chemistry graduate and ask them.

brianthebard

Sounds like the op wants to make lucozade.

Jesus talk about negativity.

TrueMass

i have info for you.

Is it protein or carb based, thick or water, stabilizer? etc

SuprSi

I don't understand what's going on here? If you're not going to help or provide useful information then why bother? TheEntrepreneur has come on here asking for help regarding something related to fitness, this is the Fitness forum - why are people giving so much grief?

Thomas_S_Hunterson

SuprSi wrote: »

I don't understand what's going on here? If you're not going to help or provide useful information then why bother? TheEntrepreneur has come on here asking for help regarding something related to fitness, this is the Fitness forum - why are people giving so much grief?

for teh lulz:pac:

Vegeta

SuprSi wrote: »

I don't understand what's going on here? If you're not going to help or provide useful information then why bother? TheEntrepreneur has come on here asking for help regarding something related to fitness, this is the Fitness forum - why are people giving so much grief?

I personally don't think the manufacture of a drink has anything to do with fitness

Sure if the guy wanted to do some market research and give us details of the drink and ask if we think it would be popular here etc etc, then he's talking to the right folk

Khannie

Vegeta wrote: »

I personally don't think the manufacture of a drink has anything to do with fitness

I'd actually agree with this. It's probably not the right forum to come to looking for help with manufacturing, even of a sports / fitness product.

There has been a lot of useless negativity in the thread though. Let's try to keep this on topic. If you have nothing to add to help the OP, just leave it out.

rubadub

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100% positive this product is not out here. I want to take the product I found and enhance it and make it even better before I can bring it out here.

SuprSi wrote: »

I don't understand what's going on here? If you're not going to help or provide useful information then why bother?

I thought you were actually aiming that comment at the OP. i.e. if you want to enhance it and make it better then you should give at least some clue as to what it is.

Vegeta wrote: »

I personally don't think the manufacture of a drink has anything to do with fitness

Yes, this would be similar to me saying I have made a new piece of fitness equpiment and then come here looking for steel & fixings suppliers. And not looking for any comments on, or even hinting at what the equpiment actually does and seeing how it could be improved.

As I said earlier some poster here have contacts in nutritionX, who are involved in supplements. But you might want to keep it secret from them too. Like Mickk has contacts in manufacturing gym equipment and I might want to keep a fitness device secret too. But you have to tell somebody at some stage, and since it is not something new anybody could take the idea anyway. (I watch a lot of dragon's den;))

Deleted User wrote: »

100% positive this product is not out here.

If it is out in another country it could well be out here already, how are you so certain? If you read a few threads here you will see that a lot of people are ordering online, importing supps from outside Ireland & the EU in bulk. I expect some supp shop could already have it on sale. Of course your local centra might not but you are not dealing with that type of product. People here would buy in bulk. If it really is a useful supp you might consider selling in bulk in powder form. This would cost less on shipping & storage etc, and do away with the extra processing required with "wet" foods, i.e. sterilization/processing.

hunnymonster

kceire wrote: »

make some samples and start handing them out at gyms, football matches, sports events. basically get you drink/name out there.

WADA would love that, so what's your excuse for failing the drugs test "Well there was this guy at the match and he gave me a wonderful new drink..." I don't think so.


I work with Food and Nutritional Scientists. If you think you have something new (which I seriously doubt) then the university nutrition people would be your first port of call. Look at the UCC and UCD websites and find the most suitable person to deal with. The Irish food industry companies are only likely to be interested if there is a diary base to the product because of their production and buying habits. Teagasc is another place to look at.

I don't actually understand what the difficulty is here. This is the fitness forum yes, but think outside the box for ****s sake. I'm told over a million people visit this site every month, so I'm hoping a nutritionist/dietician/sports scientist or whatever may ponder across this and at least be able to give me some information. It's called looking for a contact and I don't see what the problem is looking for a contact on a fitness forum of Irelands largest COMMUNITY (supposedly?) message board. Do you?

I don't have anything new (scientifically). Every ingredient out there is available and known. I just wanted to make an Irish version of a drink that is not available here that is similar to a drink available in America, do you have such an issue with that? The best example of a drink that is actually not that innovative, is available all over the world (under different brands etc) but was not here was http://www.vitzdrinks.com/

And if you do a little google, you will realise that this drink which probably 90% of people on this board have not heard of is doing incredibly well.

But seriously, don't be so negative, it's not good for YOU. And no, I am not looking to make a new Lucozade.

smashey

Yes, a million people visit this site every month but not this forum. A lot of people have given some good recommendations here so I'm locking this now.